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What do non-whites think of Europeans as a race? Also our culture?

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you tell us my mongolian brother

I think they are pretty good and it's a great thing we civilized them.

why do you think you're white?

>you tell us my mongolian brother
Pls enough with the memes, we're just slavs who happen to speak a meme language.

But Romans were white user. All meds are white, even the Greek, and Spanish.

>bulgaria
>white

Filthy degenerate opressors.

Thats my guess.

>And deep insecurity about being opressed for so long.

BIG WHITE COCK

Literally that's it.

>Bulgarians descend from a combination of Slavs and Thracians with a small amount of ancestry from the Turkic-speaking Bulgars who founded the country.


You are quite literally not white.

No, we're more non white than white.
We are anatolians at the core, like romans. Greeks too.
I don't know about spaniards but apparently they consider themselves as berbers. Mediterraneans are not white; it's just a recent thing, because white people wants our achievements.

Absolute subhuman barbarians that brought nothing but death to the rest of the world.
The Meds brought culture, language and civilization to our Empire, while the Yuroshits just fucked shit up non-stop.

I am more worried that we slowely but surely adopt the american race idea who are only able to differentiate eahc other by skin colour as they don't know anything about their home-country's culture or even their own "heritag" most of the time.

Most Italians could pass for a darker Finn without an issue. In Central or Western Europe you'd be virtually indistinguishable. Why do you keep insisting you are not white?

>Absolute subhuman barbarians that brought nothing but death to the rest of the world.
>posted by a Spainiard

Oh lord the irony. Where's a sudaca when you need one.

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>Oh lord the irony. Where's a sudaca when you need one.
Yeah, it's not like the natives killed themselves and died from illness too, while the Spaniards built everything; it's not like if you go to the ex-colonies you'll see 80% of buildings were made by Spaniards.
You really know nothing about history.

>Europeans
>race
silly amphibianposter

western culture is effective but highly insecure

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>What do non-whites think of Europeans as a race? Also our culture?
Depends on the Europeans country/region of origin. For Eastern Europeans I tend to think of depression and cold desolate commie blocks.

You ARE the non-white.

i think you're all beautiful and i wanna fug u
even pic related

I want Europeans to pound my ass

no

this, look at all these insecure posters

i respect white culture but i also recognize that most of it was actually created by the jews

Well, the chinese definetly are butt-hurt still.

Singapore is pretty great, except for not having a stable populations of its own.

>The curse of capitalism apparently.

Is this what they teach you in Spanish history?

>Spaniards built everything; it's not like if you go to the ex-colonies you'll see 80% of buildings were made by Spaniards.
Yes that is true, but only because your conquistadors destroyed literally everything they came upon. Art, books, buildings. People.

As a non white I see yuros as very piggy

Would not like to be within 100km of one

HA.

If you are not a native american you should thank them.

>Even if you are black.

>hungary speaking about europe as "us" like he has the right to represent europe
lol i'm laughing so hard here.

this lol.

>as a race
You are jews to the rest of the world. Smarter, over represented in wealth, and exploited other races but used violence instead of banking/big business/multiculturalism.
>culture
Southern European culture is 10/10 beautiful, the rest is hit or miss

It's always funny when the most irrelevant countries in Europe are those that are proudest of being European.
When you go to autistic anthro forums, it's always the Romanians or whatever else shit hole that are proud of being "white" and European etc etc, while the Germanics are proud of being Germanic.

Thank them?

That's the equivalent of a nigger saying we wuz kingz

I don't owe you any appreciation. The truth is Europeans twisted this world to their likings fucking over most of it. I'm glad the tides are turning

Romanians dont even know what "white" is, but in those anthro forums the hungarians,turks and albanians are always the ones to brag.

Is this what they teach you in Hungary?
>but only because you destroyed literally everything
Only thing that was destroyed were books, every other thing was kept, but built over.
>Art
That's still there, and there was very little of it
>Buildings
again, not destroyed, built over.
>People
M-mhu genocide!
Jesus fuck, you are just a good little goy, aren't you? What fucking people? They killed themselves more than Spain killed them, and it was smallpox the illness that did it.
You really know nothing about history, let alone Spanish history.
Unlike Yuroshits, Spain didn't go around gratuistusly killing and leaving barren wasteland, not language and no culture.
There's a fucking reason why the relationships between Spain and its ex-colonies are so good.
Stop talking about what you clearly have no clue about.

So other people twist it?

I am mostly talking about the nation you are living in was built by ol whitey.

Seems a bit shitty.

>Finn implying they are European if we aren't

Pekka pls stop, my sides.

which part? it seems to me chinese cultures are very insecure. there's all kind of linguistic gymnastics to retain some shred of honor "unequal treaty" "lost decade"

Yes I have. I wonder what picture of European countries they have in mind when they decide to come here, and also what they think their life will be like.

aside from story and role about euro economy and industry, nobody knows anything about eastern euros just because they dont produce modern culture and their traditional culture is vague.
western euros have cultural legacies of 20th century can gain popular among ones in developed countries like chinese riches and immigrants who easily buy into brands like louis vuitton but its not anything new. they have become steadily irrelevant otherwise because of americanization, i think. biritsh pop music, french films, artistic experimentalism in germany, and such are dying today.

It was built on the backs of many people, each needing one or the other to make it happen, not just a dominant race.

>Art
That's still there, and there was very little of it
>Buildings
again, not destroyed, built over.
Easy to say that once the demolition has been done. You can just shrug and say "it was like that all along". But whatever books you hadn't burned clearly show that this wasn't the case, that the natives had thriving civilizations and culture, positively flourishing with art.
>They killed themselves more than Spain killed them, and it was smallpox the illness that did it.
And who brought the smallpox with them,everywhere they went? Oh wait that'd be the conquistadors.
>There's a fucking reason why the relationships between Spain and its ex-colonies are so good.
Yes, centuries old brainwashing and cultural imperialism.

>hungarian
Shouldn't you tell us what you think of us Europeans first?

Until 1950, not really true and you know it.

The states as they are today ave been at least 75% built by european settlers.

WE WUZ SETTLAZ AND SHIEEEEET, WE MADE MURRICA

kraut, pls, go being denied acces to art schools somewhere else

>Easy to say that once the demolition has been done. You can just shrug and say "it was like that all along". But whatever books you hadn't burned clearly show that this wasn't the case, that the natives had thriving civilizations and culture, positively flourishing with art.
Yes, they had "thriving" civilizations that were quite underdeveloped in terms of science. And yes, the buildings are STILL there. Sorry to break it to you.
>who brought it?
Oh, no! How DARE those Spaniards become sick during their travels! Those fucking disgusting north-africans! Getting sick? Seriously? The conquistadores should have killed themselves for getting sick.
You sound like this. But I'll break it to you: bringing an illness you cannot avoid getting that happens to kill half the population of a continent isn't the Empire's fault, are you going to blame the Black plague on Europe too?
>brainwashing and cultural imperialism
Funny you say "brainwashing" while at the same time spoutting anglo black legend propaganda.
There's a reason why México wanted to make a commonwealth, there's a reason why the biggest figures of Filipino history were pro-Spanish -case in point, José Rizal-; they knew, unlike you, the importance of the Spanish rule, and even after going independent, they respected Spain; unlike french and british ex-colonies, who could have thought?!

>The truth is Europeans twisted this world to their likings fucking over most of it
Sounds like American foreign policy past 1918.

>USA declares independence in 1776
>B-but until 1950, it's not true
>le your wrong but the last 66 years mean everything

Wow cool, the last 66 years. The funny thing is I'd say the last 30 years were the worst decades of the US and it seems to be getting worse

When you talk about the USA, you have to remember were diverse as fuck, even pre 1950. It's common to just give credit to the dominant race but without others there can't be a dominant race. There's many who had a hand in making this country

What are you getting at? You hate Europeans now, in 2016 because 150 years or so ago "they" (more like a handful of countries) ruled over most of the world? Why do you even care?

No

>have the most accurate calendar known to man along with an astonishing knowledge of the solar system and stars
>be called scientifically underdeveloped by a Spaniard 500 years later
hysterically_laughing_mayans.bmp
>bringing an illness you cannot avoid getting that happens to kill half the population of a continent isn't the Empire's fault,
No, clearly the natives should've worn hazmat suits at all times upon meeting your people.
>are you going to blame the Black plague on Europe too?
Well if the shoe fits. Europeans started killing cats en masse in witchcraft hysteria which in turn resulted in more rats which in turn caused more widespread plagues.
>"brainwashing"
What else do you call making Spanish the de-facto language of everyday life, while at the same time forcing your cultural values, norms and especially religion upon the natives and their mestizo children?

jelly as fuck, always been, always will be

>our

Because (((jews))) want to destroy europe from within by dividing and conquering. Now white people are bickering at white people if they're "white enough", because white diversity is so vast and majestic.

If we don't stop this infighting, we will be replaced.

>we wuz good bois, we dindu nuffin!
Yuropoors everyone....

>>be called scientifically underdeveloped by a Spaniard 500 years later
>hysterically_laughing_mayans.bmp
See? you are just spouting propaganda, they were INDEED very underdeveloped in terms of science; the had no naval engineering, the culmination of science at the time.
>they should have worn hazmat suits
This is not an argument to claim the conquistadores willingly killed people by giving them smallpox.
>well if the shoe fits
No, no it doesn't. You are comparing completely different things: eruopean hysteria with native deaths because of lack of anti-body defense, you disingenuous bastard.
>Spanish the de-facto language
See? You know NOTHING about Spanish history. Not only was Spanish was made the official language of the Empire, but it was NEVER the only language or the "forced" one. Hell, even in Spain Galicia DIDN'T spak Spanish, Euskadi DIDN'T speak Spanish and Aragón DIDN'T speak Spanish either; they spoke their own language.
I invite you to fucking google "Spanish Empire" and look at the massive list of "spoken languages" before you say something else. Just like we learn English today, Spanish was the official language because the main government of the Empire happened to be in Madrid, were people speak Spanish.
Oh, and let's not forget that in Filipinas, Spanish wasn't even spoken by HALF the country; in other words, Spanish was to the Empire what Latin was to Europe: the language of the elites, not the language of everyone.

This, we are Anatolians, it's our race.

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>forcing cultural values
Only thing that was "froced" was religion, nothing else; the fact that the Castilian way ended up being the most desired was because everyone realized it was the most relevant.
You, again, are just spouting propaganda that makes it up to be that Spaniards when around beaten people up for speaking something that wasn't Castilian.
Hell, we even had fucking mestizos in our politics in the MAINLAND; again, José Rizal.
I know you are just going to come back with yet another one of the black legend fairy tales, but don't bother if so, this is getting nowhere.
>let ME tell YOU about YOU country

Whites are cucks. That's all.

>we're more non white than white.
What's that supposed to mean? White is a colour, Italians are mostly white.

t. Giuseppe Sergi?

>Sergi ridiculed Nordicists who claimed that the leaders of ancient Greek and Roman civilization were Germanic in origin and argued that the Germanic invasions at the end of the Roman empire had produced "delinquency, vagabondage and ferocity".

>Sergi believed that the Aryans were originally "Eurasiatic" barbarians who migrated from the Hindu Kush into Europe. He argued that the Italians had originally spoken a Hamitic language before the Aryan (Indo-European) Italic language spread across the country. Some Aryan influence was detectable in Northern Italy, but, racially speaking, southern Italians were unaffected by Aryan migrants.

You accuse me of spouting propaganda, yet your posts taste like regurgitated Spanish history written in the 1800's. Can you really not see this?

If anything, I'm the objective party. You are biased by being born in Spain, being taught by Spanish teachers from Spanish history books. I on the other hand am an outsider, able to tell truth and deliberate misinformation apart.

See, I have no "sides" in this argument. Pro Spanish empire or Pro natives, it doesn't matter. I have nothing to gain or lose. Only you do, because the truth I have, conflicts with your personal beliefs.

I think that whites are mostly a joke. Sure, they are better than niggers and most gooks. But they don't touch us Romans, nor various asians. Their culture is barely existent, their food and traditions are trash, and they love to get drunk and act like monkeys.

but hes mexican

>You accuse me of spouting propaganda, yet your posts taste like regurgitated Spanish history written in the 1800's. Can you really not see this?
I've literally said nothing that goes with the "white legend", don't turn your bias on me.
>I'm the objective party
No, you are not, because you are, indeed, spouting black legend rhetoric, making shit up about language, architecture, culture and history; you have to be blind to not see this.
> able to tell truth and deliberate misinformation apart.
No, you have been taught history through the lens of England and the Netherlands, which is why you made up everything about culture, history and language.
I'm haven't been taught ANYTHING about the Empire's history, we are not indoctrinated like the black legend makes you believe; all I know from that era is from the books and articles I've read.
>Only you do, because the truth I have, conflicts with your personal beliefs.
Again, don't turn this on me; you have made outrageous claims that are very clearly coming from a place of the English side. Just the fucking thing about language makes it very clear you are not objective nor do you have any idea what you are spouting.
Again, if you are going to keep spouting black legend bullshit, stop right now, I've heard it all and it's surprising how much you goyms eat it up like children.

You have been tricked by the Eternal Pig to believe that pink peoples from the north are white. It's only natural that you would reject your whiteness to avoid being related to those creatures, but you have to realize that you're being mesmerized. Wake up, pink are not white.

WE WUZ NATION BUILDERS N SHIET

I'm Hungarian, how can I be "tainted" by the Anglos and black legends? There aren't even black people in Hungary. Nor anglos.

We write our own history. And our history says that even if you didn't intentionally went to the Americas to ruin civilizations steal gold and commit genocides, in the end the results speak for themselves. And they are not pretty.

>how can I be "tainted" by the Anglos and black legends?

Not him, but that's the only propaganda you got. Even those books were spaniards are commiting atrocities in America were published by the dutch that have never seen the continent. Even Columbus, that really commited crimes against indians, suffered a trial in Spain for that reason or Hernán Cortés helped indigenous mexicans when they suffered from other spanish landlords because they asked him.

What Spain did in America is very impressive compared to what other colonial powers did centuries late, just compared the behaviour of the belgians in Africa. FFS, even in Spain there was a debate about how to treat amerindians. Why do you think they brought tons of blacks to America? Because amerindians were spanish subjects like some guy from Toledo and they couldn't be turned into slaves.

But of course, we are talking about the 16th century, the king and spanish authorities had little control about what some guys did on the other side of the world but even in that case they always tried to bring justice if they could. I've already posted many times a lot of info about this shit so I don't bother anymore.

>how can I be "tainted" by the Anglos and black legends? There aren't even black people in Hungary
Lol

>I'm Hungarian, how can I be "tainted" by the Anglos and black legends? There aren't even black people in Hungary. Nor anglos.
The black legend isn't called black because of black people, but because it paints Spain in a very dark manner.
And yes, your history books refer to Spain through the lens of England, just like every other European country; the fact that a thing like "Spanish Fury" is even a thing should tell you a lot.
>go there to steal gold
Nobody even knew there was gold there, and the gold was exchanged with the natives for other things; having such a "thriving civilization" they didn't know the value of gold. And you also seem to believe all of the Américas were full of gold, which they were NOT, and yet we were still there.
>and commit genocides
See? You call it genocide when the natives were, quite literally, killing themselves though civil war, I'm guessing your history books, which were totally not based on English "facts", didn't once talk about the on-going conflict in the Américas BEFORE Spain even got there. There's a reason many native peoples sided with Spain: because they wanted to kill the neighbouring "civilization", not because Spain forced them. More people died by native hands than by Spanish hands, and many more by smallpox.
>and they are not pretty
You mean how LatAm has some of the best writers of all time? Or how they had the wealthiest countries before the Marxist ideals fucked them up? You mean how Venezuela and Argentina were the best places in the world before committing suicide? You mean how Spain spent all she had on developing the Américas while completely disregarding development of the mainland? I'm guessing you never questioned why Spain is so "empty and old" even though we were once the wealthiest.

>'who is white?' thread #10,000,001

There's a huge diversity of opinions from non whites, and in going to go out on a limb and say their opinion forms on their experiences/history with white people.

No, buildings were destroyed when they had religious significance, which was a lot of buildings.

Maybe for central european irrelevants, because most nords consider themselves nordic before european

Hmmm, I'm willing to consider what you say is true. I need to get me a history book then that shows things from the Spanish side.

But I have a question, would sudacas agree with these facts you presented? Would their historybooks reinforce the truth of yours version or the "anglo" one?

The only ones who can compete with asians.

>they didn't know the value of gold.
Gold has no value.

>I need to get me a history book then that shows things from the Spanish side.
"The Spanish side" is also a slippery slope, since to counter act the black legend, there are some publications that act as "white legend" making shit up too.
You just need to look at the side of América and Spain, and consider the fact that the Netherlands and England were the biggest enemies of Spain at the time while reading stuff by them.
>would they agree
I don't know what their books reinforce, but I can tell you the ex-colonies see us in a good light.
The mestizos are the first ones to debunk the myth that Spain was a genociding force, not really because they want to "defend" Spain, as much as they want to show that the Conquista was not a one-sided war in which Spain was the über powerful entity.
They usually bring up very important rulings and political decisions done by Spain to gain control in a non-conflictive way.
Argentina is the one that gets the most butthurt, because they would love to speak Italian but are stuck with Spanish and because we had claims over territory that wasn't fully ours, so they feel like we are taking away from the merit of them conquering most of the Southern Cone.
What I've also seen is that, funnily enough, the ones that hate the natives the most -"indios"- are the very mestizos of those countries.

Very well. I shall look into this, thanks for the info user.

Ukraine was never an empire so technically every other country with an imperialist past (Japan, for example) is more white than Ukraine.

Don't believe what he says. He's the crazy spaniard who believes that iberians are some sort of supreme race and not europeans.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Moctezuma_de_Tultengo

>The original title of Count of Moctezuma, from which it descends, was given by Philip IV of Spain in 1627 to Pedro Tesifón Moctezuma de la Cueva, 1st Viscount of Ilucán, Lord of Tula and Peza, a Knight of Santiago and a great-grandson of Moctezuma II through his son Pedro de Moctezuma Tlacahuepan

Have fun. Dunno if any other european colonial power did something similar.

really makes you think