Does your country allow women in the army?

Does your country allow women in the army?

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No

Only transgendered women.

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yep, but they have the same fitness requirements as males do

Oh WOW

yeah

yes

Sure

I see nothing wrong with this

yes but in non-combat positions

Yes, but not a single woman has succeeded the fitness requirement for the special forces.

Here there are female special forces, but I believe they are just for "we are inclusive" and shit, never actual missions

of course, it's the current year after all!

Yes, since 1995, unfortunately.

Which is really retarded

I thought they changed it recently

It was out of concern for the psychological health for the males + rape concerns

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>Which is really retarded
It's perfectly fine. Majority of women are physically incapable of doing what's required of men in the military, it is why their fitness requirements are significantly lower. This doesn't mean they can't be fantastic pilots, armorers, technicians etc.
No, two woman passed the ranger qualification course. Of course this doesn't mean they could join the 75th regiment.

They got the authorization in March of 2016 to "immediately" integrate women into combat rolls but I still haven't heard of them doing anything yet

Women are allowed combat and after 2018 they have to sign up for the draft like everyone else

>tfw get paired with a women
>tfw everyone is made to carry extra gear since she can't support all of hers

They're going to make them enlist in the draft? Wow cool I guess.

>it is why their fitness requirements are significantly lower

this is the retarded part tbfh

>"""""""""""""""""countries"""""""""""""""" where women can serve on the front line

i dunno but even if our army did allow women i doubt they would actually be allowed to fight though lol

Whens the last time you fucks were even in a war

>japan
>army
I have bad news for you...

Pretty damn sure they can have an army now.

why shouldn't they, shitlord?
are you implying they're not capable?

>unironically being this much of a male enabling shitlord

They passed the bill? How much time passed since I went to sleep? Maybe I should watch the news.

They can't

Unless Abe finally amended the Constitution in which case he's an absolute madman

>>Beginning this year

UK is allowing women in combat roles soon, but they have to pass the same tests as the men. Last I read on the bbc said they estimated about 5% of them would be able to.

Officially been at peace since 1814

>are you implying they're not capable?
I'm implying it's degenerate as fuck to put women at the front line in the same was as it's degenerate as fuck to jump into a lifeboat before women and children

Ah, no. I misremembered that stupid intervention shit after the japs got dead'd by islam.

Chivalry is a patriarchal invention

We have no military

They can't it's still written in there constitution that they can't have an army. They can have what is known as a self defense force which is in case someone invades Japan but the army can't do anything outside of Japan.

Unfortunately, but atleast we keep them out of any real deployments (Peacekeeping etc.)

>it's degenerate as fuck to jump into a lifeboat before women and children
before children ok, but why should women get preferential treatment?

Because they can produce children I would assume.

Also just "weakest first" chivalry.

VERY REGRESSIVE SWEDEN
I VERY DISAPPOINTED IN YOU

Because men are replaceable. You could kill off most of the male population, but as long as the women are alive it would spring back up to nearly the same size the next generation. Kill off women and that's the end of it. You don't throw what you're trying to protect at the enemy.

yeah, but the birthrates are far below replacement level in european cunts which means they're not doing their part, so why should men do theirs?

I don't agree with it, was just explaining the reasoning.

The Ranger qualification course is one of the toughest so that's no surprise, a lot of men fail it too.

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Did that shit pass and was signed by Obama? I didn't hear much about it after it was ironically amended into a bill.

Is that Alberto Barbossa on the back?

>this is how women do push ups in my country

I think it was actually supported by a lot of Democrats. Ted Cruz protested against it though

>they're not doing their part, so why should men do theirs?
There's no one gender at blame for that. The problem lies with incentives and the culture that fosters (i.e. devaluation of family and traditional values in favor of academia and/or careers).

so those women shouldn't be in the military

there are plenty of women who are fit enough to enlist for most units though

I bet Korean guys do it that way too

Impossible to discern from the women

>they're not doing their part
This is more the fault of rising living standards and the devaluation of children economically

How long until the Corps of Royal Marines gets sued because some recruits were made to "shoot like men"?

>so those women shouldn't be in the military

We accept women for officers but never for soldiers. Meanwhile men are required to serve as soliders for 1 and half years rofl

I can't discern you guys from Australia but that doesn't matter since you don't even appear in world maps.

Was that meant to be a comeback?

You can call me Aussie all you like. At least I don't look and act like a woman

>devaluation of family and traditional values in favor of academia and/or careers
yes and what is supposed to be done about that to fix the birthrates? other than importing immigrants?
>devaluation of children economically
well that's certainly a large factor, but it isn't the only one, is it?

BTFO

>At least I don't look and act like a woman

At least we have experiences in military and know how to handle guns.

>it isn't the only one, is it?
It's the main one. People only really had large families because they could help on the farm/do child labor to support the family. I guess something could be said for media convincing people that having children is a terrible thing that you should never want to do, but I don't know how large of an effect that's had

You'll never touch one again in your life after that mandatory service, which amounts to slapping each other on the ass and doing some running with gear for 2 years. Then you'll settle in with the rest of the slant drones into an office job.

Meanwhile we can keep guns at home and go out hunting in our pristine wilderness, breathing in that beautiful clean air.

The problem isn't that we're declining. The problem is that the rest of the world isn't.

Get shit on

>The problem isn't that we're declining
This is a major problem though because it fucks with consumption lead growth

>You'll never touch one again in your life after that mandatory service

Not true. We have reserve duty trainings as well as civil defense trainings after our service.

>we can keep guns at home and go out hunting in our pristine wilderness, breathing in that beautiful clean air.

There's a fact you should put into consideration: your islands are large as our country but have 3 million people while 50 million live here.

>It's the main one.
i think so too, but i don't think the others are unimportant, though ofc i don't really know...
wish i knew more about this...
how is it not important? when your population is all old farts who's going to take care of them?
there's probably all sorts of other problems i'm not considering right now

GDP growth being the ultimate economic virtue is a meme anyway. Capitalism works either way.

*4.5 million by recent figure

Yes but their main function is polishing army chad cocks, no kidding. Army girls are few but huuuuuge whores

>Capitalism works either way
Not that you would know you fucking commie

Say NO to socialism

>when your population is all old farts who's going to take care of them?
Well that's a problem precisely because this way of life has gone on for too long. Getting back to a more sustainable society is going to be a bitter pill to take indeed, but I believe it is much better and much less painful in the end than trying to keep up by constant growth.

Can someone explain to me the whole birth rates meme?

Correct me if I'm wrong but the issue at present is:

>increasing % of pop is elderly due to low birthrate not replenishing numbers

And your solution is:

>young people have more children, thus normalising the balance of age groups

But the problem with that is it continues our trend of overpopulation.

Surely it would be a better solution to brave it through some tough years until the old people die out and then continue at a smaller, more sustainable population level that would enjoy a better quality of life?

speak to me in 'nam, not in yurop, see what happens.

Yes and they have the same requirements as men. A ridiculous number of women who try don't get in because they can't hack it.

>Surely it would be a better solution to brave it through some tough years until the old people die out and then continue at a smaller, more sustainable population level that would enjoy a better quality of life?
Because you risk suffering a decline in the quality of life in the meantime

How would you legislate that without following in the PRC's footsteps anyway

>some tough years
It's a politically hard sell, outside of authoritarian governments. Nobody wants to be that generation.

i don't see "swallowing pills" or "braving it out" working very well since it requires people to go through rough times just so others could have it better, there's little incentive for it especially for all the people without children

But you don't need to convince anyone.

According to all of this data and complaints about it in our culture on these boards, its already happening.

>its already happening.
Not in New Zealand. You're the only Western country besides America that has a normal age structure with no fuckheug bubbles coming up

I'm talking about Europe predominantly as that is where most of the relevant posts/data are about.

NZ is going down the shitter as it's already let in 1/3 of its population in Indians and Asians of all kinds.

Only in Western and developed countries. Try selling that in Africa. Public health officials don't even call it birth control, but "birth delay" or something like that to avoid looking imperialists.

See I'm talking about western and developed countries as those are the ones the posting/stats are always about

Europe won't allow that to happen because it absolutely kills those social programs they all love so much

The only reason they're importing so many third worlders is because they can't afford to lose those programs

But the 3rd worlders have much higher unemployment rates than the native population. The only immigrants with positive effects on their economy are skilled immigrants, which are few, and other Europeans.

They lead to growth in the long term, so long as they integrate effectively. The problem is that European countries have always been pretty shit at integrating minorities

Besides, what's their alternative, getting European youth to fuck?

>so long as they integrate effectively

But they're not. They're just creating self segregated shit areas of major cities.

Well yeah they could use some of that social money spent on immigrants to instead benefit youth in getting their first houses/marriages going.

Its the same thing here. Even if we have no problem right now, we sure as hell will do in the coming years.

No one my age can afford to settle down. No one can afford children without both parents working full time, when many can't even find work and youth are being underpaid for their relatively high qualifications. These are not conditions for getting young people to have more kids.

>But they're not
And it's entirely the fault of the Europeans and their policies. As for New Zealand you live closer to their home countries so I guess you do get far more of the shitty ones than we do. If they're so shit, why don't kiwis advocate for tighter immigration controls?

>No one my age can afford to settle down. No one can afford children without both parents working full time, when many can't even find work and youth are being underpaid for their relatively high qualifications. These are not conditions for getting young people to have more kids.
We don't really have to deal with that here very much so I don't know what to tell you.

Also,
>house ownership
>in Europe

r u dum

Actually made sense, see those skirts? Those only open so wide, and if you march in a wide step form the part of your legs that hits and pushes the edge of the skirt is going to get sore or chaffed, they should have have them march in pants, leave skirts for office duty and shit.

There was some broads complaining about it one normiebook, but there is never going to be a draft so it's mostly just symbolic.

The only way to increase birth rate in our current socioeconomic system would be to form a sort of neighborhood child care system, neighboring families go to a designated house(s) to drop off their children while they work and there's always several adults to watch them, and if a parent wants to take a breather to go and have a little vacation they can arrange it there, it has the benefit of strengthening social ties and relationships, for the adults as well as the children.

>British tabloids

ho boy, here we go again

>the Daily Meme isn't his primary news source
Lol what a fag

Holy shit, this is shameful.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512412/Female-RAF-recruits-100-000-compensation--march-like-men.html

>Although the job was office-based, she was expected to complete marches and assault courses
>The 29-year-old, from Odiham, Hampshire, right, said: ‘By the fifth week I was in agony – the other female recruits had to help me get dressed.

RULE BRITANNIA!

In the future it may be better to just maintain a birth rate at replacement levels (aka zero growth or very slight growth), as automation may see more and more jobs no longer requiring human labor. We already see it in factories, and now with 3D Printing, they can already 3D Print a house/home parts. That's in the long term though, in the short term a solution may be to push back the retirement age more to keep oldder people in the workforce longer. There have ben talks in the US of pushing the retirement age from 65 to 72 to cope with increasing life expectancy.

You won't be able to convince young people to have more children, it's both an economic and cultural problem. Incentives may solve some economic burdens, but the simple fact of the matter is that our culture no longer encourages people to have multiple children.

No it's fucking not. The ranger course is the same as going through marine boot camp. They just haze the fuck out of you for 3 months.