>we don't log
>we protect your privacy
Well, that's bullshit. They all log and will rat you out if you do something remotely illegal. Also, it doesn't help with privacy since advertising agencies have many other ways to identify a user than just the IP. It's just a quick buck for them letting a bunch of idiots pay for traffic.
thehackernews.com
gist.github.com
inb4 CIA nigger, etc. Use your Brain and don't fall for the VPNJEW.
>gist.github.com
stupid cia nigger, at least get new disinfo
Which of the statements made there are wrong?
An actually interesting topic about privacy/security, instantly shut down with a shipost..
Sup Forums really needs to get of its high horse since the quality here is WAY below Reddit at this point.
>turn off moniter backlight
>OP's post starts glowing
Fuck off CIA nigger
>vpn providers might be logging your info
>so you should build your own openvpn server on a platform that is definitely logging your info
>your openvpn server will also have security flaws because you're a dumb goy who fell for cia disinfo
ipx.ac
Do they test for more than what's tested on this page? This page pretty much ID's me when other test pages don't.
>one meme vpn provided info
>ITS OVER ALL VPN'S ARE USELESS YOU ALL FELL FOR IT
ok
which VPN?
PureVPN
They use browser fingerprinting. That shit is much more accurate than IPs or cookies.
amiunique.org
Plus Hidemyass which is still operating. And many we don't know about.
>one of the biggest Providers
>meme
So, which provider do you use, and how do you know they don't log either? I'm waiting.
is there any way to spoof all that shit? only one I have is random user agent
don't be naive, the point is that security is your personal responsibility and every point in the chain is a potential hazard.
PIA, which has been proved in court
eat my shit
>PIA
The most shilled VPN provider ever.
airvpn.org
I could find more shady shit about them if I wanted. Enjoy your placebo.
>Well, that's bullshit. They all log and will rat you out if you do something remotely illegal.
That's not true. Private internet access got subpoenaed in court and wasn't able to true over any logs since they don't keep them.
>parent company in britain
>trusting any tech company in london of all places
you couldn't get a less secure company if you tried fucking retard. you might as well just replace the P and make it CIA vpn. they can't even get butterknives and you think their vpn service is legit?
>retarded forum douche
They got subpoenaed by the FBI and turned over nothing. How is that not proven?
Source?
>ipx.ac
Shows me that I'm pretty much alright.
The browser finger printing gets my resolution, but nothing else.
VPNs dont collect logs, all that would do is in fact open them to legal ramifications. they cant be arrested for not handing over what they dont have, and there is no law that requires them to log traffic. actually keeping logs would merely do two things, make them the constant subject of legal action to turn over logs to countless criminals, and second, spell their doom if it ever became public that they were providing logs to agencies
this is not to say that the NSA/CIA doesnt know everything that goes through their routers, but youd have to do some serious shit to actually draw their attention. FBI/police are shmucks and wont get shit from the VPN provider or the cia/nsa
i mean, unless the company was set up as a honeypot to begin with. Free/logging ones are obvious excluded as well, as that is where their financing comes from, they probably just hand the logs straight over to law enforcement to save time.
try this one:
amiunique.org
Did you even read your own source? It's discussed in that thread. Your source claims that because the case wasn't directly about PIA and they only got subpoenaed in it to provide records that it doesn't prove they don't provide records even though they didn't provide records and had no records for the FBI to seize. Forum retards and the worst, it's literal autism in that thread try and go read it.
>there is no law that requires them to log traffic.
In the US there isn't. in the EU there is.
Gotta love those yuros.
how? what addons are you using
It's been proven several times that they DO log since It's much cheaper to hand out those logs than fight every case in court.
US based honeypots and free ones
teach me
Did you even read the OP before you started shitposting?
>PureVPN
>located in Hong Kong
>claim they don't log ANYTHING
purevpn.com
And it's all a lie as it turns out.
Hehe, if I wanted I could setup my own VPN and farm out the access credentials. But the users would have to deal with my 10 meg internet and whatnot. But on the flip side, I do have over 1tb of porn and 3tb of films/shows on my server. Not to mention ebooks and music
Complaining about VPN while you're still using android & apple phone is hilarious and ironic as fuck, desu.
>try this one:
>amiunique.org
It says that I'm using firefox with windows 7. LEL.
I'll post the rest in a minute.
This test can be fooled with spoofs.
>no JS
Who the fuck does that? Isn't half the web broken?
VPNs are simply for pirating shit if you live in a American IP treaty cucked country, not anything seriously illegal.
>using a VPN for anything other than piracy
Sup Forums is retarded
Also even if you use a 100% no log VPN, your ISP will log whatever VPN server you connect to and then the FBI can just match that server IP to you and a few other people.
WHy didn't the retard in the OP article just use TOR? He fucking used his home IP and Work IP lmao
remove plugins (flash, etc, especially flash)
spoof a header that is super generic (latest firefox on win10 or something), there are lists online
do not have your agents randomize on request, on session at most, if at all
spoof screen resolution to 1920x1080 (most common)
canvas fingerprinting is the toughest to stop, if you have a really common hardware config its not too bad but otherwise it really narrows you down, and the best you can really hope for is an extension to feed a random garbage value (palemoon can do this innately)
this is if you arent willing to just disable scripts outright, which is nearly infallible in making you just one of 'those guys with no javascript'
obviously this is all useless if you do everything from your private home IP. Ideally have one browser configured for anonymity (by breaking fingerprinting) that you never use anywhere but through proxies, vpns, and maybe public internets, and another for use from your home internet that you just set up for security (block trackers and shit, but dont try to anonymize the browser)
>how? what addons are you using
Big thing for me was just completely disabling ipv6. Any browser works, and just try to get as close to what foss does with icecat, add check out that prism-break site for addons. You don't need to use the exact addons, but as long as you can find ones that does the same on your browser you should be okay.
Most of it is just disabling ipv6 in conf.
thanks
>Who the fuck does that? Isn't half the web broken?
I don't have any problems. Again it just says no js.
>This test can be fooled with spoofs.
no shit, thats the point of spoofs genius
disabling javascript is also hugely effective at limiting fingerprinting option
Trips knows how to do this.
not him but yes it limits functionallity of most sites and straight up breaks quite a few.
most are normie shit though, but web 'developers' rely on js to a disgusting degree now
>OpenVPN, L2TP and other super complex tunnel interfaces and routing and killswitches and shit to setup
>Not just SOCKS5+encryption like chink Shadowsocks
Where did it go wrong?
>no shit, thats the point of spoofs genius
You don't say. So, are people just posting that site to test spoofs?
So if we all used Windows 7 + firefox 51 headers then we would all be safer?
i actually worded lines 2 and 3 poorlty, if you're going to randomize user agents, pick several that are super generic to add to the addons list. user agents are part of the header.
didn't want to confuse any novices
You could blend in better with the crowd. So, kinda yes. But your IP is still unique... The real way would be to use the Tor browser with deactivated JS.
Its like im listening to babbies
>no spoofing
>using js
Proton VPN /thread
Using "eyes" nation vpns.
>Proton VPN /thread
Sweden based. Not a good idea at all friend.
i thought proton was switzerland
It is, he's just a dumbfuck.
This website might be of some use to some here.
>prism-break.org
that plus what said.
And do
libreboot.org
and find a decent vpn that isn't in Westernized, Asian, Islamic, or part of some sort of international spying pact.
Doesn't make a difference. European vpns will sell you out.
switzerland is not a member of the EU and (((merkel))) has no say over them
It's a "cooperative" country dumbass. They don't have to be a part of anything, but they will cooperate with the eu, and us.
Switzerland's not part of the EU. Aside from having strong anti-tracking laws, the country is a direct democracy, and the people voted themselves a copyright exemption for personal use. I can't speak for Proton VPN specifically, but I can't think of a country I'd trust more about this than Switzerland.
>Switzerland's not part of the EU. Aside from having strong anti-tracking laws, the country is a direct democracy, and the people voted themselves a copyright exemption for personal use. I can't speak for Proton VPN specifically, but I can't think of a country I'd trust more about this than Switzerland.
Switzerland is a meme. It used to be pretty good for mobsters to dump money in, but that time has passed. They cooperate fully with any country that asks them to now.
Don't waste your time arguing with the moron that didn't even know what country he was talking about 5 minutes ago.
What really happened
They changed proven to presented
Previously it had this wording: "asprovenin US court, Private Internet Access does not store any type of logs and never will" for which "proven"was not true
Its been changed to this, as the user 'jbis' pointed out earlier it should have said, which reflects the truth and accuracy of what really happened: "aspresentedin US court, Private Internet Access does not store any type of logs and never will" for which "presented" is what really happened and is true.
>Don't waste your time arguing with the moron that didn't even know what country he was talking about 5 minutes ago.
Because it really makes a difference what european country that it's in.
The Swiss cooperated with other countries over hidden bank accounts, and you think that they won't over vpns.
Fuck it it's not my money that you're wasting, so go ahead keep advertising for them.
you're arguing about record keeping, there's no way to run banks without records
if a vpn corporation in any country was going to not keep records, it'd be switzerland or panema
>panema
Panama might as well just hand your shit over to the cia.
Might as well give this a read.
privacyinternational.org
/node/51?PageSpeed=noscript
>Tier B countries with which the Five Eyes have >“focused cooperation” on computer network >exploitation, including Austria, Belgium, Czech >Republic, Denmark, Germany, Greece, Hungry, >Iceland, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, Netherland, >Norway, Poland, Portugal, South Korea, Spain, >Sweden, Switzerland and Turkey;
For services you want to avoid anything that is in a country listed to the page including what I qouted.
Real talk, what VPN should you use? Looking at mullvad, hear lots of different things about Private internet access
Mullvad, AzireVPN, BlackVPN, BolehVPN, IVPN
It use to be pretty good but not anymore. They've passed data retention and corporations laws. Protonmail has also been rolling over for the cops without even being served warrants. They've really gone down hill lately. Ivpn and nordvpn are good providers in nations that aren't hostile to privacy.
>if a vpn corporation in any country was going to not keep records, it'd be switzerland or panema
How does a vpn company not keep records?
airvpn is pretty good also
Most VPN providers don't own the hardware for the servers and have to rent them. Couldn't the police just go to the company that offers these servers and monitor them without the VPN provider noticing?
Couldn't agree more!
Yes it's happened before. Some kid pulled a bomb threat and the VPN didn't turn him in but their isp did. They were keeping records without the VPN providers knowledge. That's why the good providers use ram disks for their servers so there's no records to be collected.
>VPNs are useless
no, they're not
anonymity practices are worthless
vpns have extremely useful functionality while using untrusted networks
How has no one mentioned OVPN yet? They don't have any storage devices on their servers so literally cannot log your activity. I've been using them for half a year and love them.
>Be CIA+NSA SpyUtils
>Neckbeards take up VPN usage in massive numbers
>Some actually don't log
>Too much effort to get data
>Spread false information that all security measures they could possibly take are moot in one way or another
>Saves me work
>Play minecraft and dig through the cheesepizza post backlogs all day instead of calling fucking ISPs and strong arming various judges
>I get paid for this shit lol
if you are doing illegal shit over a vpn you are retarded to begin with. VPNs are for pirating things so ((( they ))) don't harass your ISP and for watching things out-of-region. If you are going up against the state security apparatus you better be way more sophisticated than some commercial vpn provider
>purevpn
>no logs
They dont even claim to have a no log policy on their website from what I can tell. Just use a VPN that has history of their servers getting raided without any info leaking.
>if you are doing illegal shit over a vpn
>VPNs are for pirating
Really makes you think
What if i just use a vpn, then connect to another vpn, and then another vpn?
Aside from the really slow connection, this should work perfectly fine, right?
>>located in Hong Kong
Yeah but PureVPN has servers in a ton of countries, including the USA. And if you have servers in a country, you have to follow their laws and potentially comply with law enforcement.
>literally good luck, I'm behind 7 proxies
If you have a proper VPN server then thats an integrated feature.
purevpn.com
>We Do Not monitor user activity nor do we keep any logs.
Literally the first sentence.
>Also, it doesn't help with privacy since advertising agencies have many other ways to identify a user than just the IP
is using a VPN inside a VM safe or can they still tell it's me?
Welp, my bad. I guess if something gets positive reviews from the NYT one should be skeptical.
Spoiler: one of these days a "great new vpn" is going to come along for dirt cheap with amazing speeds and promises of no logging, including the seal of approval from several well-respected tech journalist sites. Be wary of Uncle Sam.
>he uses a vpn provider that doesn't simply ignore the courts
lmao cia nigger
If youre European you have no reason to not use Perfect Privacy.
>your ISP will log whatever VPN server you connect to
Are you retarded? How would the FBI find my ISP in the first place if my ip isn't stored on the VPN server?
PIA is one of the few that has proved they do no keep logs. One does not just lie to the fbi, they will throw your ass in jail.
>PIA is one of the few that has proved they do no keep logs.
That's what the FBI wants you to believe.
You guys give the retarded government way too much credit.
PIA is a DEA front.
Nah man its totally an ATF front. No wait its an FDA front. No, actually it's an NAACP front.
If anything it's a NAMBLA front (just like Tor.)
use no script then you can pick and choose what js runs.
There are addons like blender that will do it for you.