If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >A8 9600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
GPUs: >Vega 64 is barely better than 56 for $100 more, avoid it >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 or Vega 56 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti, 1080, Vega 56 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
what's a good monitor to for this build I'm planning?
Are these monitors good for gaming? > Asus VZ279H > Asus MX279H > HP 27es 27" Monitor
Dylan Flores
remember, I only went to 3200 because it was the cheapest option out of 2800/3000/3200 don't overpay for it, each step up is only worth like 5%.
Dylan Gutierrez
gsync is irrelevant. you're not going to consistently go over 144 fps with a 1060 or a 580 on 1440p.
Landon Evans
if you want to be good at games, go with a 1080p 144hz monitor.
Zachary Ramirez
Look man I'm not buying AMD they suck
Robert Perry
i want a semi budget 1500-2000$ gaming computer, can anyone suggest a build?
Connor Reyes
you have two options
144hz 1080p 60hz 1440p
now the question is do you prefer resolution or framerate
>Are these monitors good for gaming? look at response times
Adrian Rogers
1000$-1500$**** sorry
Camden Gomez
RX 580 RMA guy from the previous thread reporting results. HWMonitor showed dramatic dips in 12V (consistently below 11.7, dipping below 11.0 before crash). Now, after reattaching all the cables (doing some cable management in the process) and resetting the CMOS battery, 12V is showing constant 11.7-11.9 and the system is stable.
I felt the need to inform someone of the success.
Aaron Foster
>le everything from X manufacturer is great/shit meme kill yourself
>you're not going to consistently go over 144 fps with a 1060 or a 580 on 1440p. that's not why you get gsync
Xavier Sanchez
That wasn't me. I already have the 1060 though. I'm just wondering if I can get by with it at 1440p until Volta.
William Ross
"Ryzen" sounds cool, like some kind of ninja name like "gaiden", however 7700k sounds like you own some super rare space metal, like check out my 7700 carrot gold CPU. Then people would go shitdamn, where the fuck did that come from, thats impossible! But at the end of the day ayy em dee has cooler names like opteron for example, like its an autobot from transformers. You should pick the one that sounds cooler, so when people ask what your computer has you'll score more cool points.
Hudson Barnes
>not going for the biggest possible terraflops so when you're comparing in the pc center bathroom you can terraflop it out of your pants and impress everyone
Jackson Sullivan
I want this fucking tiny computer but I remembered I can't do anything with it
Jack Carter
What do I use to crack Wangblows 7 these days? Is Windows Activator 2.2.2 gud? Where to get it?
> soon a single port will be bigger than the computer
i dont know why user but you just triggered me hard
Juan Peterson
Is the i5-8400 really worth the extra $71 over the i3-8100?
Luis Thomas
Overclocking weather is finally here.
Ayden Ramirez
Quad cores (as in. only 4 threads) are dead if you want to play the latest and greatest.
Maple syrup or vodka? Bonus option: earl grey tea.
(comedy option not included)
Isaiah Reyes
>i5-8400 you aren't going to buy that right now are you user? buying an overclocker mobo for a locked cpu is retarded as hell
Asher Lopez
yes it is. you use gsync to stop screen tearing, which will not occur with his build at 1440p.
Hudson Bell
I'm going to do a major upgrade on BF/CM. I rather keep it under 700 dollars. Right now I have an AM(emergency)D FX8320, and an R9 280. I want to get a jewntel processor and an nVidya GPU. I also need to get new RAM and a new PSU. And I will obviously need a new mobo. Any suggestions? I'm thinking of getting a 1060, but not too sure about the CPU since there are a billion options, and would like to Future proof the mobo as well.
Andrew Bennett
Adding to that, I have a 59hz meme monitor. But I can wait to upgrade that.
Cameron Young
from previous thread
Comes down to pcpartpicker.com/list/H9cCjc which is about 100$ more than you wanted if you can find that 100$, I'd get that if you can find another 50, I'd get the 16 gigs of ram option, since ryzen doesn't like having all ram slots filled and forces lower speeds if you do fill them all. This upgrade would mean you don't have to worry about RAM at all until you build an entirely new PC if you can find another 30-50, I'd get a dual fan 1060 6gb, which will make a lot less noise.
Easton Davis
>Maple syrup or vodka? Bonus option: earl grey tea. burgers
Isaiah Howard
I flashed my HDD from a windows 10 USB and now my PC won't even boot to BIOS. Tried reconnecting everything inside and resetting the cmos. Nothing is working. What do I do?
Isaiah Murphy
Someone knows where can I check rumours about the Riven Ridge launching? I only wanna know if it will arrive before January.
Charles Moore
>gsync is irrelevant. you're not going to consistently go over 144 fps with a 1060 or a 580 on 1440p. That's precisely why gsync is relevant. Do you even know what gsync is?
Justin Brown
MSI afterburner already does a perfect job at frame limiting
Jose White
>MSI afterburner already does a perfect job at frame limiting Gsync doesn't limit the FPS, it matches the screen refresh rate with FPS.
Colton Johnson
>FPS lower than RR Turn settings down >FPS higher than RR Limit FPS
Whoa buddy I just saved you $100 for some gimmick.
My PSU or something is acting wonk right now. (Waiting for 2nd RMA to happen). But I can still boot.
But I am not looking to upgrade CPU until Ice Lake maybe, or whatever AMD has out to fight an actual new arch from intel. (I remember people going oh why would you need the 6800k it is less clocks and no gaymes use multicore properly reeeeeee)
Same for GPU want to wait until volta.
Mostly I wanted a 2nd monitor to set up vertically, but going below 4k seems like a downgrade. Any reccomendations
Will graphics cards be able to do 1440p @ 144Hz soon?
Brandon Thompson
The thing about high-refresh rate monitors is that most games are designed to run on 60Hz monitors, so even if you manage to remove GPU bottleneck, you'll just run into a CPU bottleneck before getting consistent 120 or 144 FPS.
I'm not saying that this makes 144Hz monitors NOT worth it, but it's something to keep in mind.
Noah Myers
144hz is almost always worth it, especially if you want to be good at the games you play.
Isaac Foster
probably not until late next year.
Jaxson Jackson
Got a 1060 i5 2500K atm, thinking of getting 16GB RAM and a Ryzen 1600
alright, which one? planning to play at 1080p and not upgrade for quite a while
Nolan Perry
>A8 9600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds WITH a dedicated graphics card Absolutely fucking retarded. Take this garbage out of the OP
Oliver Walker
Should i switch my GPU already? pic related is two years and half old. If not, Where would you rank the 390? [spoiler]i'm already at 1080p it's an old pic[/spoiler]
Reminder that last generation's CPU are completely defunct. Don't even consider getting one.
Jeremiah Young
Is AyydoredTV right in his last video? Saying six cores are not going to last at the top very long and that eight cores will be what will remain relevant?
We we see another 2500k vs 2600k debacle in 2 years or so when comparing 8600k vs 8700k due to threads?
I'm curious because I'm thinking about upgrading my CPU (i5 2500k) to a 8600k, but now I'm seriously considering paying the extra money for the 8700k.
Luis Miller
thanks man
Owen Watson
Still 60hz though? Then I'd say no.
Connor Cox
>8 years later >this is still the best looking case
Are there any case that comes close?
Anthony Flores
>Should i switch my GPU already? No, the 390 is about 580/1060 tier, which is great for 1080p.
Get a 1060
I would hold off for a while. Your 2500K will drive 60FPS easily in most titles
They already can. Anything 1070 or above is a good 1440p card. You don't have to keep a locked 144FPS on a 144Hz monitor; in fact it's unlikely and that's OK
1080p 144Hz VA panel are cheap. Check OP pcpartpicker
If your FPS are already below the refresh rate of your monitor AND they're acceptable (like 50FPS if you have a 60Hz monitor OR a 144Hz monitor) you don't have to worry about settings or use Vsync
>flashed Wrong terminology. Anyway you don't "flash" your HDD. Seems like you fucked up somewhere
You might be able to set a custom refresh rate in Radeon or Nvidia Settings. I changed mine from 59.83245 to 60.0000
Angel Baker
>cant even buy it
Landon Flores
>If not, Where would you rank the 390? It should be between 570 and 580.
Grayson Harris
>Get a 1060 a 6gb? for how much time will it last me until i have to upgrade to get 60fps on 1080p?
Kevin Robinson
1060s are useless. 580s cost just as much and perform just as well, but have 2gb more vram. you shouldn't buy either if you have the budget for a 1070 ti, though.
Samuel Long
I'm trying to build something from 0, this is what a friend recommended to me. The currency is Chilean pesos (CLP). He told me that between what's there and the I3, the last one isn't really worth it, considering the price and limited budget. I'm thinking on buy the RAM used. Any opinion would be appreciated.
Connor Sanchez
i have a budget of about 1k to 1.5k yuromoney, and as i posted above i'd play on 1080 because that's more than enough for me (been playing 900p all these years) it doesn't have to be now, but i read on these threads, the 1070 ti price will go up with time and i didn't want to lose the chance to get more bangs for my bucks
Adrian Hill
Just get the i5 8400 for now. Intel might release an 8 core consumer i7 in the near future and it's unlikely to be on 1151v2
The i7 7700 is going to be a great upgrade from the G4560 when the i7 costs about the same as the new i5 on the used market
All you need to do is OC the 8320 to about 3.9GHz and get a new graphics card like the 1060.
>Quad cores (as in. only 4 threads) are dead Absolutely fucking retarded. 2c/4t CPUs are still great, shithead.
By platform cost (CPU + mobo), the i3 8100 is outperformed by the R5 1600 right now
Pretty dumb to buy a new 1440p 60Hz monitor for games. How many times do I have to tell you shitheads that you don't have to keep a locked 144FPS at all times on a 144Hz monitor?
Check OP, retard. Just ignore the A8 9600 trolling, which is way below your price range anyway
If you don't want to upgrade your graphics card often, get 1080p. There's a great 1080p monitor in the OP pcpartpicker.
Can be done, really the 6GB 1060 is a minimum 1440p card.
Evan Hill
change the mobo to a b250. everything looks fine.
Josiah Reyes
the 1070 ti will go up. buy asap.
Isaac Torres
This probably has an obvious solution I'm missing but I need help. I just built my first computer and got all the parts and cables in where they should go, but when I hook it up to the monitor, it's not showing anything. The power for the PC works as the fans spin and the LEDs go on. How can I tell if it's a problem with the monitor or cable or if I just screwed something up with building it?
Carson Jackson
Did you hook the monitor to the GPU or the motherboard?
Nolan Young
>580s have 2gb more vram Which is pointless at 1080p. Additionally the 8GB 580 is more expensive than the 1060 6GB in most regions. A 3GB 1060 is also possible, which is about 30% cheaper than the 6GB version
With careful adjusting of settings, probably until they quit making games on the PS4/XB1
Looks pretty good. Make sure that the H110 has an updated BIOS, otherwise it won't work out of the box with the G4560
Luke Gutierrez
i hate this country
Angel King
Yes, I think it's time to retire most APUs from the list, or at least wait™ for Vega based apus.
Lincoln White
No, should be okay
Justin Miller
>time to retire They've been out. Some shithead is "trolling" right now
Cameron Brooks
What's the pros and cons of VA monitors w/ regards to TN and IPS? Are they good for gaming? I'm interested in Samsung LC27HG70, it's a VA panel and I don't know anything about this tech.
Cooper Wood
That's like $120 more, don't think I can afford it. Thanks anyway, will consider for the future. I'll have that in mind, thanks.
Camden Robinson
>6GB of VRAM is useless
lol you guys are silly. there are plenty of people playing with 4GB and 3GB still, 6GB will be good for the next few years
here i got you your complimentary AMD hat JUSTWAIT amirite
Carter Wilson
GPU. I even took it out and connected the monitor to the motherboard.
Nolan Evans
> there are plenty of people playing with 4GB and 3GB still This, no use getting fucking 8 gigs of Vram to gaym @ 1080p.
John Watson
i just want to play videogames at max settings/1080p and 60fps for the years to come
Cooper Allen
yeah there's a reason the gtx 1080 can play at 4K@60FPS with silly stuff like AA and (what)works disabled even though it has four times the amount of pixels to store in VRAM.
honestly DX11 was released in 2010ish, DX12 in 2015ish, so anyone with a 1060 6GB should be good til 2020 or later
Dylan Davis
Bump. Some good ol user?
Nicholas Young
>Which is pointless at 1080p. factually incorrect. >Additionally the 8GB 580 is more expensive than the 1060 6GB in most regions. only $20 more on average everywhere. the difference is completely justified due to the extra 2gb vram. >A 3GB 1060 is also possible, which is about 30% cheaper than the 6GB version the 3gb version is a waste of money that will be completely outdated by this time next year.
pcpartpicker.com/list/mF6cJV >tfw checking deals and saw PSU's for $9.99 after MIR but missed them What components usually go on sale often? PSU's and Case's seems to have rebates on them frequently. Do any of the parts in this list go on sale for any lower?
Grayson Phillips
>That's like $120 more, don't think I can afford it. Thanks anyway, will consider for the future. the reason i say this is because some h110 boards are not compatible with pentiums. just be careful
Austin Taylor
Eternal reminder that the two most important parts of your PC that will determine what everything else shall be within your given budget are your Monitor and PSU.
Charles Perez
144hz VAs are curved, and curved monitors are shit if you actually want to be good at gaming. TN + ICC profile will get similar results in terms of color.
Cooper Jackson
Show me one case where having 6GB of VRAM cripples a card at 1080p, but having 8GB saves it. You can't, and the extra cost isn't justified.
PS4/XB1 have 8GB of RAM TOTAL, i.e., for both system and VRAM. So obviously 8GB of VRAM is excessive but 6GB might be useful
>the 3gb version is a waste of money that will be completely outdated by this time next year. By completely outdated, you mean that the Super Hyper Megaton 4K texture option can't be used?
Shithead
Noah Reyes
the 3gb is within 7-12 FPS of the 6gb in every benchmark @1080p
what are you talking about
the 580 is a good card, but it doesn't make sense why it has so much vram and still performs within spitting distance of the 1060 6gb, maybe they should have rerouted that money into the GPU...
Angel Ramirez
nobody said 6gb is useless. i said the 1060 in particular is useless, because the 580 is superior. also, imagine being so retarded you don't have the slightest clue how vram works.
Jayden Watson
Should I buy a non HDR 4k monitor? Or is 4k pointless without it?
Ayden Evans
>PS4/XB1 have 8GB of RAM TOTAL, i.e., for both system and VRAM. PS4 and XB1 also run games at 30FPS and low settings.
Thomas Ortiz
PS4 Pro also has 8GB of RAM in total.
Aaron Bennett
is the stock cooler with the R5 1600 good enough for slight overclocking?
Angel Smith
most shit goes on sale nowadays. i saved you $50 for essentially the same performance: pcpartpicker.com/list/c2Xm6X
