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Is it possible to have home folder with all the applications being hosted on a server with NFS, so you start your PC, mount home folder and voi la - you have your working environment? Links would be appreciated.
Levi Sanders
Advanced users of GNU/Linux (and I mean advanced), remember to try Source Mage GNU/Linux. True source-based distribution, and (in contrast with Gentoo and Arch) is: Free from obfuscated and pre-configured code. Fully committed to GPL, uses only free software (as in freedom) in their main package. With even the documentation licensed as FDL. Without 3rd party patches, sensible defaults or masked packages. Doesn't need obfuscated python libraries, only bash. No systemd (they've implemented their own init scripts system sourcemage.org/Init). Uses clean dependencies as they came from upstream developers, which by the same provides instant updates. Can heal broken installs. Can also use flags.
Do you like Arch Linux's AUR? Do you like Gentoo's portage (or ports-like) package manager? With SMGL's "sorcery" you get all that. Making new spells (package build files) not found in the grimoire (repository of spells) is easy sourcemage.org/Spell/Book
Installing SMGL is easy, here's the simplified process: >boot a live Ubuntu (or whatever) USB drive >go to SMGL website and download compressed archive of the base system >partition and mount partition(s) >extract the archive onto the new partition(s) >chroot, set root passwd, hostname, configure network and locale, write fstab, install grub/lilo >reboot >compile a kernel (preferably the newest stable one from kernel.org) >update sorcery, grimoires and the build toolchain >rebuild the system (hold spells you've already built, so you don't build them twice) The install guide will hold your hand through the whole process sourcemage.org/Install/Chroot Do the chroot method, since the regular live ISO method guide is out of date currently.
I'm trying out porteus right now. What's the porteus version of sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade sudo apt-get dist-upgrade sudo apt-get install package_name ?
Luke Diaz
Fedora nub here, are you guys updating to 27 next week? Do release upgrades normally go okay? (And do they clean themselves up properly) I've been on Ubungo and I always used to start a new release from a fresh slate anyway.
Gabriel Nguyen
Are you trying to run weston or sway? They're different. For sway just run `sway`.
Does /dev/dri/card0 exist? Are you in the video group? Is the device in chgrp'd to video? Post a full sway debug log (see wiki).
Julian Baker
You're an idiot.
Jaxson Cruz
wait didnt 26 just come out? what kernel is it on? updates from 25 to 26 worked alright but i prefer to do fresh installs just incase.
Ryder Ramirez
>wait didnt 26 just come out lol, that's actually how it feels with Fedora.
Caleb Barnes
i swear it was july or so
Asher Wilson
>You're an idiot. Unfriendly. Just answer the question.
Tyler Hall
Any Gentoo tips? Thinking of falling for the maymay. Also, is the performance really that good?
Wyatt Bailey
Can fish climb trees?
Josiah Turner
How often does Linux have meltdowns like Stallman?
Benjamin Phillips
People don't use Gentoo for desktop because of performance. They do it because the documentation is good and it gives them control.
Chase Wood
I've installed arch but can't get the wifi to work, if I plug the USB in and mount the partition upon which arch is installed then run wifi-menu, connect, install dialog then wifi-menu will it allow me to use wifi-menu to get the wifi menu when I reboot?
Christopher Gray
Unix Torvalds has a temper tantrum approximately twice a month.
Nathan Nelson
Can you not be a faggot for a few minutes?
Oliver Myers
This is a friendly thread. You should leave.
Ian Evans
Porteus as in the GNU/Linux distro based off of Slackware? Or the graphical package manager a la synaptic? If the latter, why wouldn't you just read the documentation. Also, can you please not post hook shit.
Thomas Brown
how to do a proper afk fishing farm on minecraft? All the tutorials on youtube was made on windows and none seems to work on my machine.
Brandon Jenkins
arch is for advanced users only why would you even consider arch while being such a dumb, lazy noob is beyond me
Luke Jackson
>This is a friendly thread. You should leave. The irony is noted.
>Porteus as in the GNU/Linux distro based off of Slackware? This. >Also, can you please not post hook shit. Don't know what you mean here, so maybe?
Nathan Robinson
Started using linux last year and i'm on gentoo right now
This "advanced users only" is bullshit. Just learn.
Mason Nguyen
Thx for the reply. I thought I first have to get weston to run before I can use sway. /dev/dri/cad0 does not exist, but noticed that sway doesn't support Virtualbox right now. I will try qemu. Do you think it is possible to run openrc and wayland in general?
Sebastian Price
Porteus is a distro based on Slackware. There's your answer.
Wyatt Miller
minecraft is a java program and it works in what is essentially a virtual machine. That's why it works on so many platforms because the host operating system is irrelevant.
Hudson Collins
*GNU/Linux
Gabriel Jackson
Yeah, OpenRC should be fine. Sway does not depend on systemd. But virtualbox is definitely not supported.
Asher Rodriguez
>Just learn he's obviously unwilling to do that, that's why I called him lazy the "advanced users only" part was a jokingly way to call him out
Jack Watson
If you want to scorn someone for asking a stupid question, that's fair, but don't be so elitist. It's just embarrassing. Like two children boasting on the playground.
Aiden Collins
>Porteus is a distro based on Slackware. >There's your answer. So you don't know the answer, but you decided to answer a question that wasn't even asked?
Jayden Bell
Search for something called "slackpkg". Here's a good starting point: slackbook.org/
Jose Howard
i've uninstalled gnu
Matthew Diaz
What are you posting from?
Jordan Sullivan
Thanks.
Cooper Cox
minecraft.
the afk trick demands a few interaction with the host, like going fullscreen and alt+tab, and that is not working on linux.
Anthony Jenkins
>gnu/linux on the desktop is actually nice in 2017 >debian + xorg + xfce is the best desktop os I ever used >when wayland becomes standard everything will be lost forever Fuck wayland and red hat Fuck fedora Fuck them At this point they are making GNU/Linux worse as a desktop for everybody Fuck ubuntu too for following fucking red hat If these two bitches have thei way we would have to do everything over freaking dbus and systemd to make anything remotely useful and customisable Fuck the security meme, it ain't mean shit without features, flexibility and scripting The only chance for GNU/Linux to remain a unique and usefull desktop/workstation OS is for the fucking spooks of red hat to go broke and the fedora sluts to become irrelevant
Ryder Lee
I can get why you're attacking Ubungo because I recently switched from it (Unity but tried GNOME) to Fedora KDE. What is your beef with Fedora? It seems very polished and rock-solid. I did try Debian (it's currently running on a server) but it's not a good desktop distro.
David Watson
nobody's making you use wayland you dumbass even when wayland becomes widely adopted, it'll take years for xorg to leave the mainstream and even then, there will be distros supporting it
Carter Taylor
how do I install multisim using wine, pic related happened after hours of messing around with .net
Nolan Martin
Guys, is Manjaro really that more stable than Antergos? I'm gonna get a thinkpad t440s in a couple of days and I need to choose something stable to install alongside win10 and I don't really want to spend another two weeks setting anything up, but I'm too used to arch (on the desktop, also ubuntu for 2 years) and kind of afraid of trying anything not arch-based. Also, what works best with xfce?
Jacob Jenkins
>is Manjaro really that more stable than Antergos they're literally the same and no different from arch (besides the fact that they get security updates later) >I need to choose something stable to install install gentoo >I don't really want to spend another two weeks setting anything up if setting up gentoo takes you more than an afternoon, consider suicide >but I'm too used to arch then just use arch (even though it's shit) >kind of afraid of trying anything not arch-based you're probably not as dumb as you think >Also, what works best with xfce? but this is a dumb question if there's xfce in the distros' repos, it doesn't matter which distro it is xfce will run the same on any distro because it has nothing to do with the package management system (the only actual thing that differentiates distros from one another)
Jace Foster
debians always been the lesbian distro, what is this trash?
Gavin Baker
You are right, sometimes I just don't understand why so many arguments about different distros whilst all of them are literally the same in everyday use. I've been perfectly content with Antergos for months, but still thinking if I could gain anything by moving to something else. I guess I'll just go with antergos+xfce and forget about it (until it breaks).
Mason Kelly
you don't want to stay on a systemd distro for too long
Michael Gomez
Antergos had a shitty bug where the login screen would show an error even though it worked fine. Don't know if they fixed that. They are both very similar. I find Antergos to be less bloated and it comes with the option to install Openbox, which is better than any DE Manjaro offers imo.
Nathan Hall
It hasn't affected my experience in any way afaik. Is there any reason I should care aside from ideology?
I've never really tried Openbox, is it as minimalist and ugly out of the box as i3?
Jayden Kelly
insecurity instability systemd is a clusterfuck of shit you probably don't want running on your computer and ideology is not a bad reason either we need to be spiteful and make it known that we don't want a windowsification of gnu/linux
Joseph Cooper
Yes but the whole point is making it how you want it to be. It's also more customizable than i3.
Ryder Thomas
>windowsification of gnu/linux Question time: What license is Systemd under?
Adrian Martin
> Yes but the whole point is making it how you want it to be. the same goes for literally any configurable wm >It's also more customizable than i3 lolwhat
the only thing openbox is better for besides floating windows is obscuring your config with shitty xml
Caleb Sanchez
firefox is also considered free software and it's borderline malware
Zachary Gonzalez
>A free software license justifies everything and anything something does or foces its' users to do t. (You) Guess if we licensed murder, racial genocide, nuclear holocausting entire nations, child rape and cannibalism under the GNU GPL you would think it's OK and you would even defend it.
Nolan Edwards
run winecfg and set the emulated wangblows version to 7.
John White
Should be, but /home has to be mounted before you log in. You could automate it at startup, or you could also log in as root first (since the root home directory is in /root instead of /home) and mount it, then log in as your user.
Nolan Gray
umm...top installs/steps after a fresh install of Windows 10?
Thomas Ross
Wrong thread, faggot.
Lucas Turner
My point is not that systemd is automatically good. My point is that I don't believe the conspiracies about it being botnet or anything.
ta, already planning on having Ubuntu on my other drive
BUT, the question is about Windows 10
so far i have
>Sumatra PDF >Bash on Windows >7zip >Notepad++ I still feel I am missing something
Easton Cruz
>I still feel I am missing something Yes you are still shitting up the GNU/Linux thread with windows questions you fucktard. Piss off back to /sqt/.
Aaron Cox
should work, only problem I could imagine is your DE or other programs trying to create folders or files in your ~ before you get a chance to mount something there or if you don't have a connection to the NFS.
Camden Rodriguez
>it's not a good desktop distro Mhmmm
Parker Myers
It did used to be. If you had used earlier releases (like around 8.04 - 10.04) you would have noticed a drop in quality. You can still make it work and it is stable for the most part, but Fedora is just a lot better and is actually making things better, not stagnating.
Cooper Cox
Are the open source kernel drivers for nvidia cards good? Mainly wondering for cuda rendering. Cause man im sick of and drivers on non windows systems.
Ayden Harris
>Are the open source kernel drivers for nvidia cards good "No". Check what Linus says about nvidia for a better insight.
Caleb Morales
no, no and no. noveau drivers were pretty much always garbage compared to open drivers for amd/ati cards and massive steaming pile of shit compared to closed nvidia drivers
cuda is a proprietary technology (unlike openCL). nvidia has pretty staunch anti-competition stance, opencl performance is purposefuly gimped on nvidia cards compared to cuda so the user locks himself in nvidia-specific gizmos.
Leo Edwards
That's great but I hope you realize you just dismissed other peoples opinions with a strawman argument. If you disagree or don't care about other peoples opinions then good for you, but using some fake meme label to avoid considering someone else's point of view is intellectually dishonest.
Jace Long
>8.04 - 10.04 That's Ubuntu?
Jeremiah Garcia
Does Ubuntu netinstall comes with Xorg or I have to install it afterwards?
Josiah Foster
What about their closed source drivers? On that note I find it odd that amdgpupro is closed source yet opencl or whatever the oss drivers are run better.
Basically I ask because I'm considering a RX 580 or a 1060/1070 right now. For rendering purposes only but Vega ran way too loud and had shit drivers.
Xavier Anderson
Is there DE that has hotkeys for window management like i3 but you can configure it comfortably like gnome? Things like WiFi, external monitor etc.
Dominic Jackson
Last I checked you could use other WMs with gnome.
Jaxson Peterson
i3 is super easy to configure WiFi and external monitors comfortably with
wicd and arandr are all you need
Cooper Brown
nvidia's closed source drivers are okay. They definitely work as intended.
Austin Diaz
When is AMD going to pick up the slack and make better shit than NVIDIA?
The only thing I'm lacking to go full Stallman-free is the fucking GPU drivers, and I'm definitely not using Nouveau so I'm kind of locked into non-free stuff there.
Michael Johnson
Wizards assemble!
Justin Gomez
>Linux
Logan Martinez
>(and I mean advanced) Literally unnecessary. Debian is harder than Source Mage. In Debian you have to contend with the bloated mess that is apt-get, if something goes wrong the interface will tell you about it in its own idiosyncratic and uninformative way that you don't necessarily fully understand. In Source Mage if you want to install something you literally just type sudo make install and if there's any problem it's presented to you clear as day in the form of compiler errors.
Eli Ross
If you didn't select any desktop metapackage during netinstall then you have to intall it yourself.
Jordan Nguyen
Should I use PlayOnLinux as the front-end to Wine? Or just plain Wine?
I'm just a bit confused because there are certain games (like Cuphead) that appear to run 100% perfectly on other people's systems with similar specs to me when using PlayOnLinux, but when I try them with plain Wine I get pretty choppy FPS. Is it that PlayOnLinux applies sane configs for the specific game, or what?
Liam Sullivan
>Still using apt-get
Cooper Carter
This thread needs more anime.
Brandon Wilson
>other console terminals can show images with w3m >konsole doesn't whow?
Oliver Morgan
Richaado Stallmanu is all the anime we need
Luke Richardson
>Is it that PlayOnLinux applies sane configs for the specific game, or what? Yes, and that's literally all PlayOnLinux is. PlayOnLinux doesn't run the games, wine does. PlayOnLinux just manages multiple versions of wine and gives each game its own prefix and applies settings or installs libraries into that prefix that are known to work for that game.
If you were to do all the same changes manually then the results you would get are identical. So the question isn't why does PoL yield better performance in some game, the question is why does the WAY in which PoL setup wine FOR that game yield better performance than the way you're setting up wine manually.
Grayson Robinson
Is the anime you watch ethical user? Is it free or is it plagued with nahsty DRM?
Jeremiah Rodriguez
torrenting is always free. Just maybe not legal (although it should be).
Oliver Jones
Teach me how to install MS gothic and MS mincho in playonlinux or alternatively teach me how to fix pic related.
Chase Hernandez
Do you send donations to your preferred animation studios? How are you supporting their business?
Gavin Nelson
Thank you user, I'll just look into what settings and libraries it uses then
Easton Wright
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Adrian Wright
1. create a prefix for the game in playonlinux 2. navigate to the prefix/Windows/Fonts 3. copy the ttfs of gothic and mincho from a windows installation or install media to that folder 4. you're done
Austin Reyes
Shill detected. Compiler errors are certainly not always clear as day and the set of problems that can crop up from compiling from source is far larger than those that can come from errors in a dependency tree. Anyone who has issues with apt would surely have issues with that shit too.
