If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
GPUs: >Vega 64 is barely better than 56 for $100 more, avoid it >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 or Vega 56 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti, 1080, Vega 56 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
oh yeah in that case I'd probably go with 8400 although since the only chipset out for coffee lake right now is Z370, it might be more worth it to go with 8600K
Jaxson White
continue to redpill me on 8600k vs 8700, gaming 1080p 144hz gtx 1080 32gb 2400 mhz ram (might oc), CRYORIG - H7, 250gb 960 evo m,2 (probs in raid 0)
Aaron Price
I'm a fucking idiot with a dumb question.
Do I need an internal usb hub or is it implied that I'll have some open slots somewhere like maybe built into the case itself?
Ryan Ward
you can probably be okay with a 1070 for 1080p gaymen
Henry Cox
a usb slot? well there will be some on your motherboard that end up in the back of your tower and you normally have one or two on the front of your case. You have plug in the ones on the front of your case to your motherboard.
Brandon Thomas
what do you mean? your motherboard should have USB
Thomas Hill
no i already hve gtx 1080, just wondering on the 8600k vs 8700 cpu
I've got a lot of drives that need to be plugged in, a usb keboard + mouse, and some gamepads so I was worrying if I'll have enough to make it. I'm probably worrying about nothing though.
Leo Ross
usb hub if you only hve 1 usb port
Blake Hall
also i need to know if i'm getting meme'd into that monitor
Jonathan Gutierrez
Your motherboard should have at least 3 or 4 attached to it. I have 4 usb hubs on my motherboard + one on my case.
No worries, it's standard.
Andrew Thomas
i had the computer store order me a gigabyte ga-ab350 gaming mobo, did I goof? I saw somebody on reddit say it was bad
Isaiah Carter
Alright thanks. If I do end up needing more I guess I can just connect an external or two to the front and go from there.
Josiah Walker
>gigabyte
I'm so sorry
Daniel Hall
case is kinda expensive, you could probably get a fractal define r4 for cheaper and it's prolly better as for 8600k vs 8700, i think 8600k since it's cheaper and you can OC it
you are definitely being memed, >freesync you want g-sync for nvidia
Evan Baker
why is gigabyte bad?
Hudson Butler
g sync too expensive, i got this recommendation from the sticky
Ethan Fisher
its not. don't listen to Sup Forums about any particular brand
Hunter Cruz
What is a 27" 1440p 120+hz monitor, with gsync, that doesn't go overboard with the gamer design, and doesn't require you to RMA it 50 times before it works?
AOC AG271QG and Dell S2716DG are the only ones I can find, where the former is almost a no-deal because of the meme-stand, yet the dell is a fucking TN panel for the price of an IPS.
Jackson Russell
>that doesn't go overboard with the gamer design literally doesn't exist aside from dell/samsung
Aaron Flores
freesync does nothing for you, though it's only for AMD GPUs, so you'd be better off with a monitor that has neither try dell S2417DG, not much more expensive and is 165 Hz with G-Sync BUT it's TN AOC AG241QG is about the same both of the above are 1440p, and barely more expensive; you should be able to run fast enough on them that high refresh rate will be good with a 1080
Carson Fisher
what's so bad about the stand on the AOC? and yeah, both of the ones you mentioned are TN, but you're not gonna get anything better for the price and all the more expensive ones are gamery as fug
Luke Cox
>it's only for AMD GPUs, so you'd be better off with a monitor that has neither there is no premium for freesync, it doesn't affect the cost. If the monitor is otherwise a good choice you can just ignore it.
Benjamin Martin
>Recommending locked CPU for the overclocking boards should have a note indicating 8400 while a good deal will be better whenever those B tier mobos arrive desu
Logan Price
Gigabyte is one of the few motherboard manufacturers that arent know to include botnets/backdoors. Dont listen him.
Ayden Parker
>motherboard >backdoor its the CPU and ethernet controller you need to worry about besides if that is a concern your only real option is IBM computer workstations
Jose Robinson
The AOC is an IPS panel, competing with the Asus & Acer 1440p 144hz IPS panels.
The stand just stands out (heh) too much in my opinion.
Luis Perry
the monitors u gave me r $200 cad cux more
Isaiah Cook
CAD, oops I was thinking in USD in that case, it's about what you'll get for that price and should be quite alright other ones you could consider are ASUS VG248QE and AOC G2460PF
post it in a less autistic format and maybe someone will care
Lucas Campbell
thx my dude, do you know how much contrast ratio matters? and 27" or 24" 1080p
Lincoln Taylor
?? parts for a mobo?
Dominic Miller
if I only do gayming, would an m.2 nvme ssd be overkill?
Nicholas Hill
You buy an SSD for the operating system.
Brayden Phillips
>?? parts for a mobo?
Embedded Single Board Computer
Matthew Williams
Well the poor mans mobos will have ram speeds locked at 2666 mhz
Daniel Miller
>NVME yes just get a sata SSD NVME will eat up two sata slots and has no benefit unless you are some kind of 3d modeler artist
Robert Martin
>poor mans mobos will have ram speeds locked at 2666 mhz do you have a single fact to back that up?
Logan Gomez
Not just the OS. A lot of games benefit greatly from it now in both load times and reducing stutter (open world/streamed)
Adam Thomas
>Watching Alien Covenent >get to deleted scenes >shows the manufacture of David the Android >close-up shot of them putting his CPU in, it's AMD What a weird product placement, hopefully AMD didn't pay to put their logo in a deleted scene. Kind of funny that AMD powers the evil android which kills everyone.
Building my first gaming PC and wanted some opinions on how my selection is since I'm very ignorant of computer parts/brands in general.
What I'm shooting for is 1080/60 with okay graphics. Quality doesn't have to be set to high at all times since I care more about consistent fps. I'm also interested in general emulation so if it can do something like run Cemu acceptably then I'd also be happy.
I'm trying to stay at or under $800 USD so my main concerns are if anything in that list is overkill for what I'm trying to do or if something I have listed will make simple upgrading a pain in the future. What should I cut back on? What should I put more money into? Nothing in that list will be bought just yet since I'm waiting for black friday/cyber monday sales, so I've got plenty of time to make adjustments. If I really have to go over budget then so be it, but I want to know exactly why.
Will probably end up purchasing Win7 as well since I wouldn't know where to start with pirating it, but I'm not including that as part of the budget.
Also, if I want to do dual monitors in the future will I need anything not included in that part list? Apologies in advance for anything dumb I might say since I'm new to the whole PC building, having only owned laptops in the past.
John Bailey
>Embedded Single Board Computer cool, know nothing about that
Leo Wilson
960 is same price as 850 but faster
Nolan Barnes
idk about ur cpu but u shuld wait for a mobo for 8400
get 8gb ram
get 7200rpm not 5400
idk bout gpu or case
idk about psu but such a cheap one seems dangerous, if your psu messes up you lose everything else
>idk about ur cpu but u shuld wait for a mobo for 8400 I'm not exactly sure what you mean.
>get 8gb ram Don't most modern games ask for more?
>if your psu messes up you lose everything else Well the one on that link is only $10 more and modular. I guess I'll upgrade to that one.
Jaxson Reyes
the 960 is $155 the 850 is $110
Blake Hill
>look into an i3 >look into a 7200rpm drive because 5400rpm is very slow comparatively >look into a bronze PSU >i'm pretty sure win7 won't work with coffee lake, but you can just download win10 from windows and pay for a key later
Carter Bailey
no most games do 4-6, 8gb is enough for a cheap build especially with expensive prices
I mean don't get 8400 and the mobo
Kevin Williams
Don't forget the i3 8100 is locked to 2400MHz, since it's the exact same CPU as the Kaby Lake i5's. Intel was too lazy to support 266MHz, just staple the unused KL stock onto 1151v2 and call it quits.
$900 budget trying to get a freesync functional system
Jack Sullivan
>ebay >receive a brick
Christian Kelly
Alright, so downgrade my cpu to an I3 then. I heard good things about I5 so I figured I might as well. Will also drop to 8gb ram and go to 7200.
How long will an I3 last me you think?
I really don't want Win10 though. I'm really happy with win7. Which of those parts won't work with 7?
Austin Carter
it's a bid u fucking ape
Liam Rodriguez
the 8400 only supports windows 10
Michael Russell
has anyone purchased ANYTHING from powerspec before
Samuel Morgan
Ah, I see now. Thank you.
Xavier Russell
No, all the miners are selling their graphics cards. There are so many listings for 1080’s around 450-500 buyouts
Colton Barnes
I would stick my neck out and say that honestly, coffee lake isn't that much better and getting 2 triple A games for packin (Assassins Creed: Origins & Warhammer) is kinda cool too if you'd rather. No games get CL tho.
Hudson Baker
On Newegg it costs 5$ to make sure the shipper signs when the package is dropped off, but what's stopping me from waiting for the package to arrive and telling newegg it never came?
Hunter Carter
Probably the fact that it was signed for you dumb dumb
Eli Nelson
send me a link i don't see anything, only auctions around that price
Austin Turner
i am planning on using same case, psu and hard drive so just need cpu / ram / gpu / motherboard for a refresher on my pc for hopefully 500-700 canadian. right now i have ancient fx4100 and gtx460
kind of unsure if i should be looking at i3s or not because i do 3d/video rendering and use unreal engine and think i want at least 4 cores so the filter is just cheapest i5/i7. i haven't really looked at ryzen in this price range especially because i saw some weak benchmarks in unreal engine compared to similar intel chips for ryzen
linux and a windows VM (with gpu passthrough) is the future
Colton Gray
I want a fairly large capacitive 1080p touchscreen for my desktop PC. Preferably around 20-24", but 17" is probably find too.
Anyone know of a good one ? I don't ever see any reviews for desktop touchscreens.
Jonathan Moore
i3 8100 or i3 8350?
Camden Taylor
Neither. Either step up to at least an i5 or go for Ryzen.
Parker White
I would advise against going for 27" 1080p, the pixel density is pretty poor at that size. not sure about contrast ratio desu
Dylan Mitchell
hey now don't discount the 8350K unless he cares about 0.1% framerates or is doing workstation tasks it would serve adequately don't get the locked coffee lakes until cheaper motherboards though
Michael Reyes
>amd cpus
Josiah Clark
look into an M2 SSD, SATA isn't really worth it anymore get an ATX motherboard, ASRock Z370M should do if you must buy now, consider getting an unlocked processor like i5 8600K that you can overclock, since the motherboard chipset is made for that and the cheaper ones that can't overclock aren't out yet 7200 RPM HDD your GPU is gonna be a bottleneck, maybe get a 6 GB 1060 or a 1070 even otherwise, consider downgrading to an i3
Lincoln Green
>SATA isn't really worth it anymore Why?
Luke Morales
plugging the SSD straight into your PCI-E is faster
Parker Jenkins
>consider getting an unlocked processor like i5 8600K Why would he want to do that when the i5 8400 is with 100MHz at stock and is way cheaper? An extra 20% clockspeed isn't worth all that extra money. And you turn the CPU into a space heater.
8100
OP says No i5s for a reason. Look into Coffee Lake
Looks good. Report back
Get a uATX mobo 3000-3200MHz RAM
Blake Young
Is staying on W7 worth it? How's the game compatibility with w10 nowadays?
Alexander Williams
yeah and 10 GB/s ethernet is faster than 1 GB/s ethernet but that only matters if you ever do anything with fucktons of data sata SSD is cheaper and more compatible with older hardware
Angel Gomez
Between the two, i7 8700. But the i5 8400 is better for your needs.
>it's only for AMD GPUs, so you'd be better off with a monitor that has neither Not true at all. Freesync has no effect on Nvidia graphics cards, so it's just like the feature is off. Who knows if he'll get an AMD card one day. Better to get Freesync because it's, ya know, free, a free bonus.
Submit to 10, your PC is just a gaming box. Have a GNU/Linux shitbox too Or just run 10 in a VM with GPU passthrough
Excellent point
Jordan Martin
I'd rather spend the money saved with sata ssd on more hdd space.
Chase Richardson
>Or just run 10 in a VM with GPU passthrough this
Robert Walker
Think I'll be able to get a GPU that can run Witcher 3 at 75 fps for
