If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
GPUs: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
change the cpu info, COFFEE LAKE ISN'T FULLY OUT YET
Christopher Gomez
So the only viable answer for (a) gayman is 1600x?
Jayden White
People running them now would beg to differ
Parker Sullivan
what are you talking about, there is stock every day.
Dominic Lewis
ur a faget but there should be a note about z370 + 8400 being less than perfect value
Julian Young
Should I grab the $99 Dell, throw a poorfag/used GPU and stick of ram in it and use it until ram and gpu's start going down and newer CPU's come out?
Henry Hill
>ur a faget takes one to know one.
Gabriel Perry
people live outside of the US
Nathan Hill
They do?
Andrew Sullivan
So fucking what? At least you know what's coming when it does It's out, cry more
Gavin Phillips
typical yanks, think the fucking world revolves around them
Ian Wilson
buy from an international site
Jeremiah Bell
Think it’s worth it to just go with 1800x if the money isn’t an issue?
Nathaniel White
for what purpose?
Joshua Young
might as well recommend the r+5 2600 it will launch the same date as intel actually starts shipping out coffee lake.
Nolan Jackson
Would anyone be willing to offer me some feedback on this build? pcpartpicker.com/user/rodco/saved/Q4xbjX It's going to be a gayman pc. It's almost the same as the most popular guide build on pcpartpicker (modest gaming) with the following changes:
1x8gb memory to leave room for eventual upgrade Bronze 80+ efficiency instead of gold, based on discussion I saw on the build suggesting that the lower efficiency wouldn't make a significant difference Switched out the SSD for a higher storage capacity and cheaper HD (any thoughts on Seagate as a brand?) Switched cases to make room for an optical drive, as I am a relative luddite
Now, I am a bit retarded at tech and this would be my first build, so were any of those changes stupid? Additionally, I have a set of those wall plugs you can ethernet into your router and and pc through the wall to avoid wireless, do I need a wired network adapter as well to use that? Lastly, the computer as it is is around 800, ideally I don't want to go significantly higher, and I plan on waiting until black friday to see if anything gets cheaper.
Thanks in advance.
Cameron Ortiz
Is it worth getting any amd over coffee lake for gaming?
Charles Jones
You need an SSD, no ifs no buts
Gabriel Torres
yeah and pay $80 for shipping (even if it does ship here), wait 3+ weeks for it to arrive and if there are any issues just flush it down the toilet
Julian Robinson
are 2nd gen ryzen going to have igpu?
Christian Phillips
sucks to suck
Dominic Ross
alternatively I can just buy from their competition
Jaxon Gray
Gaming/streaming
Adam Wood
B-but I want more than 500gb of storage without spending 200 dollars. My last pc died a few months back and I never minded the lack of an SSD, what makes them so essential now? Is that the only thing that stands out as a problem?
Jonathan Wilson
what competition?
Jack Baker
which brand is the best for a b350 mobo?
Luis Morris
>covfefe
Evan Jones
nice meme
Nicholas Murphy
then get the fucking cheap evo 125gb ssd and a HDD for storage
Austin Walker
thanks I try
Jacob Morales
GUYS PLEASE ANSWER. IS THERE ANY REASON I SHOULD BUY AN AMD OVER COFFEE LAKE FOR GAMING
Carter Collins
availability. That's it
Gabriel Thompson
>FOR GAMING either 8600k, 8700k or ryzen, don't bother with the locked cpu's, the whole point of intel is to overclock them.
Jayden Reed
there will be APUs, but it's not comparable to Intels igpu.
Jack Evans
How did I do?
Chase Sanchez
Should I get this?
2 x 16GB DDR4-3200 CL16-18-18-38 1.35V
$330 CDN $260 USD
Oh and it's a Samsung B-die
Jose Diaz
isn't the 580 supposed to be a $200 card?
Carter Ross
thanks for the eye cancer.
Isaiah Anderson
no how tall is that shit anyway
Aaron Sullivan
...
Joshua Hughes
>no why not? other than having annoying LED and being fugging HUEG
Noah Parker
I've never heard of that company before, website looks sketchy as fug, and they might not even have it in stock user pls
Julian Perry
Price is good if you need 32gb right now. Check if it would block your cpu cooler.
the colored fan would go on the cpu cooler, as a centerpiece
Levi Jenkins
no, it's usually around $300
it's a quality card, you'll enjoy it. plus you can add on another for crossfire down the line
Hudson Murphy
sure that case comes with two fans already, are you sure you need that many more?
Jeremiah Lewis
I finally ordered my 1060 6GB today lads. Hopefully it will do me well for a while.
John Cooper
>580x2 crossfire Wouldn't that require a large PSU?
Adam Collins
swapping them because they're white, and 140mm fans are usually quieter
Xavier Powell
Will the factory fan speeds on a blower style 980Ti cooler be enough to keep from thermal throttling at stock clocks?
Thomas Hill
you're waifu a shit
Lucas Nguyen
>window >fractal design whats the point?
Eli Martinez
ok, just making sure
Zachary Brown
so i can watch the fans spin
Levi Thomas
I would get the 8600k instead just for the option to OC later
Brayden Robinson
Nvidia is selling the 1070ti for $450. Is this a good deal for someone starting from scratch?
David Clark
That RAM seems oddly overpriced, even accounting for recent trends in memory costs/availability. I got a 2x8GB kit for $125 or something only some months back, towards the middle of the year. I'm sure you can get a good kit on Newegg or a local retailer when BF/CM come by after Thanksgiving. Either way, a 1x8 is a minimum these days, 2x8 is pretty good.
Seagate used to be complete dogshit (Not to be confused with Seasonic, a great brand). Supposedly, they are somewhat better now, but they're still low-tier. Get a 125GB SSD at minimum for your OS/desktop, then get a 1tb HDD for further storage of music, videos, etc.
Get a decent gold PSU with some wattage above min requirements for your rig if possible. You can use it in the future that way. I got a USED 750w gold PSU in my first build 4, almost 5 years ago, and it's stood with me through two upgrades and one rebuild.
If you absolutely need access to disk content, there are USB external disc readers/writers you can use instead of spending money on a new case and reader. You can buy a top-tier case used from Craigslist or something if you want to as well.
Everything else is mostly fine.
> do I need a wired network adapter
Presumably not, if you have proper wiring already set up in the house.
rgb/10. Post pic when you finish your chirstmas tree.
Adam Powell
I wouldn't do the same thing myself, but nothing stands out as completely wrong.
Caleb Wood
>Ryzen is good for ga-
Easton Hughes
Is it normal for ram to cost as much as my cpu?
Connor Fisher
Depends on the RAM and CPU. If it's Ryzen 3 or i3 it sucks for you.
Owen Hernandez
>USB disk reader I hadn't even thought such a thing would exist, thanks user! I'll stick with a gold PSU, then. If I'm planning for a good upgrade path I suppose it doesn't make sense to cut corners on the power supply anyways. Thanks. I'll also look for a better hdd for storage, probably sandisk, samsung, or Toshiba (I've seen a few good comments about Toshiba on Sup Forums). The ram there is more or less a place holder, for it and the storage I'm really hoping to find good deals after thanksgiving. Thanks again.
Chase Torres
I thought the 8400 was locked?
Adrian Powell
ming on a budget
Brody Rogers
>christmas tree I-I only have two RGB fans and keyboard ._. [spoiler]and an aio[/spoiler]
Asher Morales
1600 + samsung b die
Nathaniel Hill
Why there is pentium g4600 but not g4560 in cheap builds?
Joseph Torres
>poorfag Just get a console. The point of PC is to be on the cutting edge.
Chase Bailey
Right now that is about normal. I did the same thing and the RAM only costed $20 less
Nathan Howard
The point of PC is options.
Isaac Edwards
Why settle for less?
James Brooks
What are the actual benefits of having an m.2 ssd over a sata ssd that is worth paying more for
Hunter Clark
Because he doesn't want to spend the extra money for more.
Luis Torres
Well zer should stop being poor and you should stop assuming genders.
Luke Lewis
Go do something, you seem bored.
Leo Russell
Not him but, because you have the option to. Just because I can blow a weeks salary on a PC doesn't mean I should. You can taylor it to what you will use it for. You don't need a $1000 pc if all you are going to do is play old games and browse the internet. It is all about choices. You have the choice to make your PC your own. With other platforms you are locked out of features that PC's get for free. Having a Pc is about freedom. Freedom to make it what you want and do what you want on it.
Tyler Torres
Better than telling retards who can't use Google to buy this hunk of silicon over this one.
Andrew Perry
retard
Liam Hill
who /8700k/ here
Daniel Smith
>63360610 >synthetic bench marks
Caleb Baker
Nice projection brainlet, I have a PhD.
Brayden Collins
>samsung b die could it be TFORCE NIGHT HAWK BLU LED EDITION
Cooper Stewart
post dem blue RAM sticks
Sebastian White
Exactly what I did, absolutely if you've got money to burn. Go for mini towers because the SFFs cuck you with only being able to fit half height cards.
Joshua Hall
Any good BTX motherboards?
Lucas Rivera
Nobody
Cameron Sanchez
Pic related. If for whatever reason you can't find anything but SFFs, don't bother with the GT 1030. Get the small GTX 1050s or 1050 tis but be warned the small Tis are overpriced as fuck. The PSU in these units can handle it.
Jayden Gray
...
Carter Nguyen
I need to get a pc for my grandma. It basically will just be used for email and playing solitaire and other old people shit. Do you think this build would be good enough. pcpartpicker.com/user/Ayz/saved/yCGnnQ
Nathaniel Green
You could probably get something ysed that is better
Jonathan Scott
Just get an Optiplex from Ebay, throw in a SSD if you're feeling generous.
Ryan Rodriguez
If you’re not meme, just buy her a used optiplex and clean it up
Camden Perry
So then do you think if I can get an optiplex with a 3rd gen i5 for around $100 that's a good deal? The one I found has an i5 3570 with 4gb of memory and a 1tb hdd. It already looks much better than what I put together. Should I check craigs list as well?
Kevin King
Lots of people (enthusiasts like the ones in these threads) already have Coffee Lake CPUs, retard.
Not on AMD's 8 core parts, but they'll have Zen/Vega APUs next year with up to 8 threads, as 4c/4t and 4c/8t
Yes but they'll be loud
G4560 was out of stock at MSRP, still is
Har har
Form factor
Or to be a pirate
>not a single average below 60FPS
Noah Nelson
price, if you want >4 threads you can get it for JUST over 200 dollars on ryzen
Caleb Walker
I got lucky on Amazon with the exact specs and pricesyou listed. But that was a ridiculous deal, I was looking for a 2nd gen i3 but ended up getting an ivy i5. I doubt you'll be able to get an Ivy because Ebay sellers mark those up for whatever reason but a Sandy i5 Optiplex is doable. Look on there. They range though, be careful some kikes try to charge $50 for. shipping.
