Memes aside, I'm honestly going to grab the Gentoo .iso to give it a shot trying/practicing/learning Gentoo in a VirtualBox VM, and just for the heck of it because why the fuck not, especially that it'll be in a VM anyway
Is the official Gentoo wiki installation the best Gentoo installation guide for novices to get their feet wet for learning Gentoo?
Should I go for the live or minimal .iso?
Any of you running Gentoo right now Sup Forums?
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The official handbook covers pretty much everything you need to know.
I use SystemRescueCD as an installation environment, you'll be downloading everything you need from the internet anyway.
Don't get overwhelmed researching USE variables right from the start. The default values are usable as long as you pick the right profile when the handbook tells you to. But definitely play around with different USEs once the system is ready, that's the primary way make sure you're installing the functionality you want.
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> Is the official Gentoo wiki installation the best Gentoo installation guide for novices to get their feet wet for learning Gentoo?
Yea, you don't need more.
> Should I go for the live or minimal .iso?
You probably already decided but I'd personally actually use the Sabayon live or sysrescuecd. You could probably even use Ubuntu's medium.
You can still install Gentoo the usual way, after partitioning (which these support) it all essentially happens in the chroot before rebooting.
> Any of you running Gentoo right now Sup Forums?
Well, I am.
The handbook which is on the wiki is the definitive install guide and it's fantastic. I usually use either systemrescuecd (which is gentoo based) or the minimal iso, it doesn't natter to much though. I run Gentoo on all my boxen and love it.
please dont fall for this meme
Don't listen to this guy. Gentoo is only a meme because it's harder to install than ubuntu. It really is a fantastic distro if you're willing to put just that extra bit of tine into it.
the gentoo iso is useless, as you'll need to download stage3 anyway (ie. the gentoo iso has nothing to do with installing gentoo). it's just a standard linux environment, might as well use something less barebones.
i used it before my hdd died, it was pretty good, although configuring it sure takes a bit of time. now i've fallen for the botnet - i can't remember how to fix tearing with compton anymore, there was one very specific solution which worked.
just remember to configure clang for decent compile times and lower ram usage. and consider using -Os instead of -O2 if you have a shit hd/small ram (like i had), it might actually be "faster" (as in swapping less/faster load times). -O3 is a meme.
If you don't use -O2 you might as well just use Arch
Most distros compile with -O2 nowadays. Also -Os is meant to make programs as small as possible so it makes sense in a low storage/ram scenario.
For compton I just set the backend to glx and vsync to opengl and werks prety gud 4 me.
The Gentoo Handbook blows.
There's a lot of missing, inconsistent, and obsolete info in it. I can only assume that the comments here endorsing it either haven't looked at it for a while, or just skimmed it and relied on preexisting knowledge.
The most straightforward way to install Gentoo is to boot a live USB of some friendly distro like Ubuntu. I suggest looking for a a guide to that. Gentoo is actually fairly easy to install compared to a lot of other things, and I feel like the Gentoo Handbook is actually one of the main reasons it gets such a bad rep.
i've tried a lot of things (including this), none of them work. i think it was ForceFullCompositionPipeline and xrender, but it didn't work this time.
arch is -O2 though. gentoo has almost negligible performance improvements, it's not 2006 anymore.
them which meme we should fall them user?
Please point out what's missing from the Gentoo handbook. In my experience it is exceptionally detailed, even telling you what each flag you run a program with does.
i already install a lxle , whic programs shoul i instal to learn programing in linux?
vim
terminal apt get vim?
emerge -e vim
gentoo is nothing particularly special, it's just sort of generic in a lot of ways. I installed it through the cloverOS iso, so I have a script update for me like the lazy fuck I am.
Portage is ass, emerge is meh.
>lxde
>realtime kernel
>cpu microcodes
>VIDEO_CARDS
enjoy
>learning Gentoo
you're doing it wrong
the goal is not to learn Gentoo
the goal is to learn Linux OSes through building your own one brick by brick
that's all the point there ever was in the Gentoo meme
and it's due to its excellent documentation
and to it being a good compromise between LFS//BLFS (better documentation, much more hassle) and Arch (worse documentation, less hassle)
if you don't know how to set up an OS from a quite barebone install, it'll teach you a lot
if you already know pretty much errything your average Linux based OS is made of, there's no point in going through Gentoo anymore
if you don't want or need to learn what a Linux based OS is made of, install a classical distro
if you're trying to learn Gentoo in particular, you're delusional
if you unironically end up using Gentoo, you're a delusional autist
**compiling with portage is ass
what i am missing?
try sudo emerge vim
looks like it's telling you that you don't have the proper admin rights.
>how to take a screenshot
i believed it for a moment
got it i was missing a / tks user
Portage is an amazing package manager but if you use it with a binary repo like cloveros you will not be able to utilize most of the perks
Good for you OP.
The installation guide is easy to follow.
Go for the minimal iso if you're on windows, stage 3 otherwise.
Yes I am running it right now.
>You could probably even use Ubuntu's medium.
Busybox has all the functionality that's needed to install gentoo. Every single installer/livecd that gives you shell is going to have at least that, heck I'd bet you could even do a full install from your typical rescue shell that's embeded into most initramfs
>Should I go for the live or minimal .iso?
Just do a chroot install for starters. You'd have less impact on compilation time that way. After you built everything you can just mount the VDI and copy the OS inside it and install Grub.
Install Clover in a VM and check the files while reading the official handbook. After that just build it from the ground with a stage3.
>install Grub
No need to install that stuff unless you have a good reason to. Gentoo boots just fine from an efi stub.
this. I'm using rEFInd and it works better than grub