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CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
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General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
I bought a fresh PC, Ryzen 5 1600, 16GB RAM, Gtx 1060, Asus B350M-A Prime
I have no display despite having correctly plugged the DVI cable to the GPU and verifying everything works
I looked it up and it seems to be a BIOS issue, but how the fuck do I update it without a display? I already wasted all my budget on this rig, I can't afford to take it to a tech shop to get it flashed nor do I have a different CPU to try it
help me please
Brayden Brown
Buy Intel
Ian Lopez
>tfw it was just me being retarded and not setting the monitor to digital instead of analog
Dominic Nelson
let say i will SLI a 1080ti. would that be a problem using i5 8400 in my future 4k 144hz display?
Liam Lopez
Possibly but probably not
Grayson Flores
Anyone else have an 8700k? I'm cooling it using an h100i v2 and it keeps fluxuating temps pretty wildly. Goes from 29c up to 36c rapidly while idle..
then when running a game like nioh, it jumps up to like 60c
does this seem normal??
Parker James
Pics or GTFO
Nathan Jones
ill take some help, is this a good build for playiing video games? my budget is unlimeted but im trying to stay under 1500$
Elijah King
perfectly normal what's there to even worry about?
Charles Gutierrez
is it actually a good idea to clean my motherboard like that?
Henry Bell
I want a 1080p /144hz rig as cheap as possible. Is 3770k + used 980ti a good idea?
Cooper Martin
It's actually fine, as long as you remove cmos, and dry 100% before putting any power to it.
Mason Morales
Case X-2 Outlaw Case - Motherboard ASROCK AB350 PRO4 - Processor AMD® RYZEN™ R5 1600 - Memory Xidax Extreme DDR4 2666MHz Memory- 16GB - Power Supply Corsair CX750M Semi-Modular Power Supply - Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 6GB - Sound Cards Onboard Audio - HDD/SSD Xidax Performance SSD - CPU Cooling Xidax 550LC CPU Cooler - CPU Paste Standard CPU Thermal Paste - GPU Paste Standard Graphics Card Thermal Paste - OS Windows 10 Home Premium 64-Bit -
Just got this from xidax for 1300, I know all about building my own computer but this allowed me to upgrade majorly from my current computer while just doing payments. How good or bad did I do?
Owen Hughes
>Payments >Asking for approval after purchase instead of before This is why you are poor.
Ryan Jenkins
No I'm poor cause of my alcohol addiction but thanks for your insight. Last computer I built piece by piece but it was about one piece per month and didn't feel like waiting when I'm playing battlefront 2 and my computer is struggling.
Sorry, i forgot SSD, you actually only wasted $250ish
Isaiah Bennett
250 to get my computer now vs later and it saves me the 1 hour work of building it is not too bad.
Andrew Reyes
Is thermal paste included with new cpus? I'm about to buy a R3 1200 so i want to know if i need anything extra
Cooper Gray
They didn't remove cmos
Sebastian Turner
I have a PCI and PCI-E expansions available. What should I get? I really don't know much about PCI expansions other than the GPU and a wireless card (have a wireless dongle so don't need)
Jason Long
1. Why a 7600K? 2. Buy a cheap cooler like the cryorig H7 3. Use the extra money to get a z270 mobo 4. If you're gonna spend $100 on a case make sure it has tempered glass 5. Why no HDD?
Bentley Wright
Would a i5-2500k at 4.7Ghz work with a 1080Ti at 1440p 144hz?
The chip is 2nd gen Sandy, I know, its old, but its worked well so far. Will it be a bottleneck to a 1080Ti?
Jeremiah Watson
No, time to upgrade. If you're really that cheap, get a 3770k for the same socket.
Henry Edwards
Can 420 rads be squeezed into a thermal take core x5? Case is 540, crude pixel measurements on photo I came out at 435 for the length of open space in the rad mounting brackets. But the product page still only lists 360/280 and... 400. Wtf is a 2*200 rad even I thought 2*180 were outlandish
Kayden Wright
nice, i was going for a build similar to yours what ram did you bought for your motherboard btw?
Will that suffice ? Seems to be the best I can do around 500 or 550.
Says he'll likely get an SSD later.
Mason Richardson
>7600k >current year No, it's not good at all. Read the OP, do some actual research instead of just throwing random parts together, and then try again.
Owen Parker
The stock cooler comes with thermal paste pre-applied, yes.
Chase Stewart
What do you guys think about purchasing used PCs?
Ryan Collins
what are you gonna use it for? for gaymen, forget it.
but for other tasks, i guess just ensure that there are no hidden defects whatsoever.
Kevin Price
the last time I was here I asked for advice about graphics cards and I was told to not even bother with the 1060 3GB, but now I see in the sticky that it is recommended. Why the change? And is it really worth it? I am somewhat on a budget and it does look enticing....
Thomas Nelson
>Why the change? Because OP is a faggot. 3GB of VRAM is insufficient for even some current games at 1080p/max settings, and the GPU itself is about 10% weaker than 1060 6GB. I'd advice either 6GB version or a 580 instead.
Owen Harris
borrow a buddy's GPU? alternatively, look at a video of how to flash your specific motherboard then follow the inputs exactly, leaving some time in between in case shit takes a little longer
Eli Lewis
Try looking into used 970s or 980, they are about the same performance if 1060 3 and 6 gigs respectively and cost much less. You can also try to buy a used 1060 but you're gonna spend at least 100$ more for about the same performance, you get a newer card though wich is nice.
Isaac Lee
>gaming pro no, that's the worst one
consider upgrading to 580 4gb/8gb, 1060 6gb consider upgrading to 16 gigs of ram
I'm pretty sure they don't want to budget for a 1060 6gb or a 580. That's quite a bit more. I think the guy mostly plays gta V at 1080p anyway.
I strayed from 16gb because ram prices
Christian Ramirez
So how reasonable is choosing the G4560 if I'm on a pretty tight budget? (around 500-550 US dollarydoos)
Samuel Ward
16 gigs is 40/55$ more depending on which you get 8 gigs of ddr4 isn't going to drop to 50$ dude and even if it did, apparently ryzen doesn't like it when you fill all the slots, so you'd have to buy a 2x8gb kit or deal with 2333mhz
>I'm pretty sure they don't want to budget for a 1060 6gb or a 580. That's quite a bit more. that'll make the build not need upgrades for like 5 years, whereas I expect the 1050ti will need one in about 2-3
>2 core stop this meme
Thomas Russell
I'd like to buy a 2 TB HDD Which is better? Green Seagate or Blue WD?
Nathan Watson
S T O P T O P
Eli Bailey
is there any reason to get a b350m Ryzen mobo over a A320m if I don't plan to overclock?
Christopher Howard
theres' no way I'll make something similar or better to this for $500, right?
Jackson Perez
Is that what they're charging?
Jeremiah Thomas
Question: What do I have to consider to make a new build pretty silent?
Can I use whatever I want and replace the fans or are there any other tricks?
Isaiah Kelly
for black friday special, yeah
Ayden Scott
Big heatsink, high-efficiency PSU, aftermarket GPU cooler with big, slow fans.
Ryan Cruz
Off the top of my head... Cheap psu+case+mobo = $120, R3 1200 = $120 1060 3GB = $200 8GB RAM = $70 HDD = $50
So yeah, if you don't mind having shit-tier MOBO and PSU, that's a good deal.
Grayson Brooks
> and dry 100% Rinse the board with fresh tap water, then metho. Metho displaces water, board dries in minutes, though a touch with a heatgun doesn't hurt. Biggest point here is rinsing out the minerals left from the tap water, which can be conductive under the right circumstance.
> t. I pressure wash my electronics then rinse them with metho for dem clean technologies
Christian Russell
Nah, you're not going to beat that for $500. That said, OEMs tend to cheap out on the most critical components. Make sure the warranty covers PSU and motherboard failure.
Eli Walker
..and yes, remove any batteries before you kick off.
Michael Evans
What's the difference between OEM and BOX editions of CPUs? No fan?
Logan Wood
>What do I have to consider to make a new build pretty silent? Depends on how much money you're willing to pay for silence. Case is pretty important, you're probably going to want a high-efficiency PSU with semi-passive mode(so the fan won't even turn on until it needs to), the GPU and CPU coolers(and not just their fans) are important as well.
Juan Ross
if one did thing like this to his motherboard and then dry it would it work ?
Aaron Anderson
Is this an okay way to apply thermal paste?
Ryder Sanchez
I'm picking out a new PC and I've just been struck by a question: do new videocards still support VGA output? I'm planning to use it with a VGA monitor.
Dylan Ramirez
Got a budget of £700 ($900~)
1080p Gaming (60+fps if possible) Streaming (so as good a CPU as can be budgeted to account for encoding)
Much love to the first man to help
Jeremiah Bailey
Amazing, thank you a lot!
Adam Murphy
I can add a HHD later, prefer an SSD to start with. Got a screen and a OEM copy of W7pro64 also.
Ryan Bennett
...
Tyler Moore
we already discussed that build is fucking shit
Grayson Robinson
1060 6gb/rx 580 8gb 8/16 gb 2800/3000/3200 RAM 1200/1600/8350k/8400 if intel, a basic noctua cooler 128/250 gb 850 EVO SSD & 1/2tb HDD
Jacob Morales
actually I missed the streaming part so skip the 1200 & 8350k and add 8600k
David Myers
R5 1600 Any B350 Mobo (Pro4 if you can't chose) 1060 6gb 240gb ssd 16gb 3000mhz ram Whatever case you like
Carson Perez
RX 460 or GTX 1050?
Gavin Morris
you fags excited about PC Building Simulator?
Jaxon Peterson
570
Also theres already an active thread
James Cox
1050 is way better than the 460, slightly better than the 560
who's the faggot that keeps changing the subject? no wonder no one is using it
Mason Brown
>How to install Win7 on Ryzen A-are you telling me that if I plug an HDD with Win7 on it into a new Ryzen build it won't work?
Colton Rodriguez
Great stuff chaps, thanks.
John Walker
50 dollars on top of over 100 for the better gpus and then ideally more for a cpu as well. I doubt they'll go for it. They said 600 was max but they wanted less.
Jacob Walker
so i upgraded my motherboard to a z370 for the new i5, new gpu 1080 and ram.
my pc booted with my already installed windows 10 and when trying to activate it with my ms account its says servers are down. tried it 10+ times with no result. my windows 10 got updated from a pirated windows 7. would this be the reason?
annyway im going to trie the kmspico crack later this day. that worked easy for my office 2013.
Mason King
>1060 >144 hz
Connor Howard
how do you figure lol
Brandon Ward
Whats the best ATX case for less than $50?
Christian Mitchell
I want to turn my server into a router with pfsense. It only has one Ethernet port, though. If I plopped in a PCIe Ethernet port, would pfsense with with that?
Please no 'maybe', it's not helpful.
Aaron Baker
>G4560/G4600
Matthew Long
If I have a freesync monitor, is it worth it getting a RX 580 over a 6GB 1060?
Luis Fisher
Yes. The prices aren't all THAT inflated any more, anyway.
Tyler White
Yes you retard, fill up all your free lanes with cheap tplink nics
Nothing is cheaper
Yes, head to head the 580 is superior in everything except power consumption, but even then its not that bad. There are a shit load of situations that the 580 is better (not just games) and virtually none for the 1060 except for a handful of games.
The best 580s are cheaper than the mid range 1060s right now
Noah James
What, fullsized? I think you're better off getting a used higher end case. My friend bought a Corsair 500r for $50 a little while ago. People are willing to let go of cases cheaply.
Jose Kelly
And psus.
Justin Wood
>570 Not thanks to miners. You either get 1050 Ti or jump straight to 1060.
Jeremiah Carter
Oops
Christian Robinson
Thanks, I'll probably go for the GIGABYTE RX 580 since it's the cheapest one I can find right now. I've heard some good things about the Sapphire Nitro version too
Leo Long
>memeing people into buying a dual core cpu in current year It is a cruel meme.
John Lopez
Theyre the same price where i am, idk about usa
Ive got a sapphire nitro+ it was over hyped for me. The fans are a little louder than i would have liked but theyre not actually that loud. When you run fantest they go louder than they ever do when gaming. I love that at idle they just stop spinning. Paired with my d15 its like my pc isnt even on. So quiet that i discovered my monitor has coil whine.
For poorfags and old people its a great choice. Chuck a pentium on a mitx board that has wifi and youll blow them away.
Adam Moore
Some websites are already starting pre black Friday sales, the deals aren't as good as I was hoping, even if they do go down more on the actual Friday. I think I was expecting too much.
Kevin Lewis
No. Poorfags should either get a used computer or an apu. Poorfags will not buy a dedicated gpu.
John James
A pentium is an apu you fuckhead
James Sanders
>implying its shitty intel integrated graphics count for anything You can buy a quad core apu with better integrated gpu for the same money
Chase Garcia
No, it's not. Just like AMD CPUs don't have HT, Intel CPUs aren't APUs.
Luis Reyes
Black Friday has sucked donkey schlong the last couple of years.
Aaron Allen
Yup, grandma needs Radeon graphics ™ for checking email and reading Yahoo news.
Luke Gray
I happen to be an expert on this subject. The procedure would go like this:
>remove heatsinks and thermal pads on the mobo >remove cmos battery >wash the board in a bucket with distilled water and dishwashing liquid, use a brush like in OP's image (the cheaper the dishwashing liquid, the better, it means less impurities in the form of fragances and such) >DON'T use tap water, no need to and it will mix worse with the dishwashing liquid resulting in less cleaning >after cleaning properly remove all the soapy solution with clear distilled water >once it's pristine, put in the oven at about 60ºC >leave it there for 30 minutes >put it out and let it go back to ambient temperature >done, remount thermal pads and heatsinks >don't use methanol it will dissolve some plastics, fuck with paint and/or dissolve the protective laquer on the pcb
Isaac Anderson
Grandmas need cheap silent low power consumption computers that can run their tv shows, facebook video games, skype and similar shit. Poorfags need something like A8 7600 because they can build a computer to play lol or some similar shit with around $200.
Landon Harris
No, you should do it in a straight line like pic related.
Brayden Moore
Explain to them that $100 will save them another $500-700 in 5 years.