Alright Sup Forums, let's talk about Raven Ridge, and how it's late af.
Top of the line Raven Ridge 2700U specs: > 4c/8t > 2.2GHz - 3.8GHz > 4MB L3 > 14nm > 15W > Integrated Vega GPU with 10 cores
Now let's see what a 3 year old top of the line mobile i7 looks like (i7 4980HQ): > 4c/8t > 2.8GHz - 4.0GHz > 6MB L3 > 128MB L4 (for graphics) > 22nm > 47W > Iris Pro 5200
inb4 "muh TDP", that was 22nm, 8th Intel does the same as Raven Ridge does at 15W because it's 14nm.
Raven Ridge basically won't even beat a 3 year old i7 on mobile CPU performance, the Vega graphics is probably just a little bit faster than Iris Pro. Why can't AMD into high end laptops after all those years?
Stop cherry picking. How many consumer laptops have the i7 4890HQ?
All the shitgrade consumer laptops have the dumbass dual curr i7
William Thompson
>inb4 "muh TDP"
hehe now you're not allowed to point out that the intel part has triple the tdp checkmate amdrones
Adam Ross
That's exactly what I'm talking about. Why can't AMD into HIGH end laptops?
With Raven Ridge, they are basically achieving what high end laptops did 3 years ago (performance wise)
Since no "premium" laptop will ever use Raven Ridge, you will probably get garbage-tier batteries, making the 15W efficiency go away.
> How many consumer laptops have the i7 4890HQ? Old 15 inch Retina MacBooks, and they come with a huge 95wh battery, great 16:10 IPS display and top tier build quality.
Raven Ridge will never ever get into a nice laptop like that.
Ryder Taylor
>47w vs 15w >intel graphics vs vega >ryzen 4c vs 4th gen intel 4c what the fuck is wrong with you
Juan Hernandez
Because they decided to target to low power ultra books first. Eventually they will come out with higher tdp ryzen with better performance
Levi Sanders
> comparing the TDP of a 3 year old cpu to 2017 one pic related
Zachary Garcia
>Eventually they will come out with higher tdp ryzen with better performance That will be the desktop APU though. OP is talking about mobile.
Adam Ross
>configurable tdp-up frequency 2.10 ghz >confidurable tdp-up 25w
bravo intel
Brayden Ortiz
???
Nathan Green
Top of the line i7-8550U specs: >4c/8t >1.8GHz - 4.0GHz >8MB L3 >14nm >15W >Integrated "UHD" Graphics 620
in b4 "muh 3 years" because the 8550U is doing it 15W in 2017 too.
Jack Wilson
woah raven ridge doesn't need to be overclocked to get past even the 2.0ghz barrier bravo intel
Gabriel Rogers
The Vega GPU absolutely fucking obliterates this Iris pro chip without breaking any sweat, and using literally 3 times less power.
James Fisher
> Why can't AMD into high end laptops after all those years?
This is literally their first laptop in fucking years, cut them some slack and let them get their bearings. At least this means they'll be competing with Intel in ALL the segments, which means that we'll finally (hopefully) see some actual competition-driven innovation from Intel, not just the same "2% less power BUY NOW :D" bullshit they've been pushing for the last 5+ years.
Julian Ramirez
> raven ridge doesn't need to be overclocked neither does the i7
Eli Harris
>1.9ghz
Jeremiah James
wew
Joshua Carter
> 8MB L3 vs only 4MB on Raven Ridge > 4.2GHz vs only 3.8GHz on RR
> in b4 "muh 3 years" The new 45W HQ chips will be 6-core/12-thread, which completely obliterates Raven Ridge.
David Fisher
Are those the new HQ chips that will use AMD graphics?
Luis Torres
> implying base clock matters more than turbo boost
Xavier Rogers
>measure power from base clock >report speeds from turbo kek
Michael Scott
for tasks that take longer than 5 minutes, it is
Juan Garcia
Just a part of them (probably only Apple will use them), the normal ones will get Iris Plus graphics.
Landon Brown
>The Vega GPU absolutely fucking obliterates this Iris pro You're overestimating Vega user, see pic related
Iris Pro literally beats this aborted Vega chip on LoL and Dota, and that's a 3 year old Iris Pro.
Nathan Wright
Where is the iris pro numbers on the same settings?
Lucas Cruz
the 8th gen i7 doesn't throttle even on the Surface Pro 2, which has terrible thermals.
Lincoln Morgan
just take my word for it okay i have a family to feed
Jonathan Sullivan
That's good. But the 8550U is throttling to all hell in the Surface Book 2, which had decent thermals with the 7th gen chips.
AMD didn't compare gaming performance to Intel HD > Really makes you think
I predict it will perform good in benchmarks and shit itself on games due to no dedicated memory. Iris Pro has 128MB of dedicated eRAM.
Jace Bell
> Shits on Intel > Falls behind NVidia who has done nothing but GPU for the last few decades > This because using Vega architecture that was intentionally sabotaged by a Pajeet who worked for Intel
Tyler Cooper
sorry didn't mean to bother you
Charles Gonzalez
>Surface Book 2, which had decent thermals
Also, what makes you think Raven Ridge won't throttle af with shitty thermals?
Benjamin Watson
Those are already game benchmarks, not synthetic loads.
Isaac Martinez
> Vega graphics can't even beat the aborted mobile GTX 1030 > Slightly beats the lowest end Intel graphics > No Iris Plus comparison really made me think
Nolan Evans
Then why does it perform like fucking garbage on games? League of Legends runs 60+fps Max Settings 1080p on Iris Pro.
Caleb Thomas
>overcocking laptops
ISHYGDDT
Ayden Hernandez
proof?
John Wood
Seems fine for most use cases. Processing power has been sufficient in laptops for quite awhile now. My x220 has an i5 2520M which is perfectly fine, a faster cpu wouldn't benefit me much, so I can see the appeal in raven ridge in allowing a low end laptop to do some light gaming.
pic related is the Iris Pro 550 overwatch benchmark from a 15W dual core Intel CPU > Iris pro gets 79fps > “muh vega graphics which will destroy any a intel graphics” gets 66fps at the same settings
