Prostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography...

Prostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, and even incest and pedophilia … should be legal as long as no one is coerced. They are illegal only because of prejudice and narrowmindedness.

Richard Stallman, 28 June, 2003. stallman.org/archives/2003-may-aug.html

I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing.

Richard Stallman, 5 June, 2006.
stallman.org/archives/2006-may-aug.html

There is little evidence to justify the widespread assumption that willing participation in pedophilia hurts children.
Granted, children may not dare say no to an older relative, or may not realize they could say no; in that case, even if they do not overtly object, the relationship may still feel imposed to them. That's not willing participation, it's imposed participation, a different issue.

Richard Stallman, 4 January, 2013.
stallman.org/archives/2012-nov-feb.html
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t.me/lambda16

Kids are easily manipulated. That's the whole point of making that stuff illegal.

Stalledmeme should be removed from the sticky.

Yup we need new face for 2018.

Is Richard Stallman a Jew? Is this why he advocates for Marxist software?

he's right you know

I was "molested" frequently from age 6-12 by a family member and enjoyed it

im a girl btw

pic related

Yes

Yep, him and Lunduke are based Jews/

God damnit. Every single time.

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completely agreeing

This
MODS

We don't need a new face but that fat disgusting fuck needs to go off this board.

This, Linus should be the sticky.

fucking finally, freetards are a cancer on this board, ever since they hijacked it in 2008

surprised NOT
filthy pedokikes

Remember when we had word filters? We need to bring that back. We need a filter for "free software".

Voluntary necrophilia. Really makes you wonder.

I say the Wizard of Woz should be the replacement.

he's right, you know

most people are easily manipulated. what you need to manipulate them changes with age, but they remain prey.

in childhood, it's charm. in adolescence, it's charisma. in adulthood, it's wealth.

every pedophile allowed to operate is snatching up gfs and bfs before they reach the wealth stage of their lives. the wealthy, who are also the lawmakers and driving force behind changes in popular morality, don't like this. if the wealthy have their say, you must be 20 to have sex, and any younger is rape, because they would be out competed by the charismatic otherwise. if the charismatic have their say, you must be at least 15-16 to have sex, because they would lose to the charming otherwise. if the charming have their say, it's 8, because they have few talents and really want to get laid.

Hello Michael :)

>pilpul
>logical fallacies
>goyim nodding heads
typical tools of the kike

I'm waiting for you to get called crazy, stupid, troll etc by people who struggle to cope with reality kek

you'd think a forum of edgy atheists would find solidarity with stallman

Lol this telegram group is really cool and funny

There is a word filter you DUMB C.UCK.

>fuck a girl you are jailed
>cross an imaginary line and it is completely ok to do the same

walnuts in overdrive

you can look at it in many different ways, i guess. your logic somewhat makes sense but if we define "kid" as someone who hasn't hit puberty yet then it should be illegal because they are not biologically able to reproduce at that time. underdeveloped brains of kids could be another reason why pedo shit is illegal. heh, the more i think about this the more i think i was baited hard.

(((Stallman)))

lol, you are the one the underdeveloped brain and your completely arbitrary definitions are concern to none

>Prostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, and even incest and pedophilia … should be legal as long as no one is coerced. They are illegal only because of prejudice and narrowmindedness.
They are illegal thanks to how government makes you think, that children invovled in anything sexual is very bad and 100% hurt and harm
>I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing.
I think he is saying young girls that seduce boys and men, yes they exist and they wouldn't mind having sex any other day
>There is little evidence to justify the widespread assumption that willing participation in pedophilia hurts children.
They made us think this way, that no matter the situation, it will harm children and it is bad for them.
this is a good point and it also means that you can manipulate them to do anything else.
But the assumption is that the older one manipulates by teaching about sex, what if the child learns everything by herself?

mfw there could be girls that visit their sex offenser in jail cause they miss the pleasure
but we weren't made to think that way

fair enough. the topic itself is not concerning to me.

You have a point, but I don't agree with most of it.

The change of what is attractive as you grow up is something I'm really noticing now that I'm 23 though.

At 15-18 girls didn't care about money. They were also both more easy to get into a relationship with and less likely to cheat. They didn't mind having their parents pick you both up even if your family didn't have a car.

At 20+ status is very important. Getting picked up by your gf in her car? Don't think so. Now you need to be both decently socially adept and somewhat wealthy.

Ok. What, I disagree with him on some things so I have to dismiss all he's done and my agreement with him on other things? I don't play the identity politics game, fuck off

He's right, but what does this have to do with technology?

Children are a protected class. We purposefully oppress and persecute anybody who takes advantage of them and assign legal guardians to handle their affairs from the moment they become citizens (birth).

>pic related
Unironically YES.

he did not say that, if you look at the link

he is saying 'dubya nominated a caveman'
who said that

he is criticizing it

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Autists should really learn to shut the fuck up about kiddy diddling. There's really nothing to gain by trying to argue the finer points of sex with children to normies.

As expected of techloli/g/y's official mascot!

based stalledman

Why do you think Stallman is so obsessed about privacy?
What do you think is on his HDD?

Put Elon Musk there

>incest should be legal as long as no one is coerced
Agree

yea
protected class are the most dangerous as more they can abuse the power

Half of my class lost their "purity" before 14. Of course most of us fuck each other, but girls liked older dickheads from middle school too. This is the reality, everything else is a meme and overprotecting. Obviously, (the lack of) sexual education harms more kids than pedobears on the streets.

>saved

I think it's more a conflict of innocent until proven guilty and the problems of proving someone wasn't giving consent.
I'm all for putting someone that's less politically divisive up there. Knuth perhaps. Though he's mostly known among luddites for the premature optimization quote. And the argument that was made isn't even accurately understood. Usually people who use that quote argue for you to ignore major performance gains.
I'm rambling.

Indeed. I'm protected by laws which don't allow you to steal. You will be oppressed if you steal my property. I can "abuse" this power by accusing you of stealing my property but you have innocence under the eyes of the law unless there's overwhelming proof that your actions contradict your account of events.

United States Department of Health and Human Services, Administration for Children and Families, Administration on Children, Youth and Families, Children’s Bureau. Child Maltreatment Survey, 2013 (2014).

This survey indicates there are 63,000 cases of known incestuous coercion in 2013 and 2014. Please tell me the legal advantages of writing a caveat into law which would protect adults who can have sex with anything else and how this protects the thousands of victims there are per year?

>Obviously, (the lack of) sexual education harms more kids than pedobears on the streets.

completely true.

Innocence is the default for any accused criminal. That's not under dispute. The problem with children giving consent to sexual relations is the exact same as them consenting to entering a mortgage, buying stocks, enlisting or entering the workforce. We don't let kids do ANY of these things because they don't have enough mental capacity to make a reasoned decision.

He's not wrong.

This guy knows.

My nig

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Disgusting pedos

he's right

I actually would like this.

he is saying something interesting about "preventative" laws

>we should have strict gun control to prevent people from shooting up schools
>but shooting up school is already illegal

>we have age of consent laws to prevent people from coercing 15 years olds into having sex with them
>but why not just make under-age-coercive-sex illegal?

these two issues are (seemingly) not on the same page

>Jew advocating degeneracy

Colour me surprised.

It should be Terry.

>most people are easily manipulated. what you need to manipulate them changes with age, but they remain prey.
yes, but a minor is considered vunerable which cannot respond for their actions. Its the same principles with legal age to drive, own a gun, drink, etc. But an adult, if he is manipulated, well, too bad, he should be able to take care of himself, but a kid cannot.

idk in murica but in my country, if you have sex with a kid younger than 14 years old it is not only pedophilia, but also RAPE of a vulnerable person, EVEN if that kid consents to having sex and say in court "I wanted it"

I'm fine with and don't care about most of that shit except the shit involving children since children are too young to actually give a valid letter of consent to a party that understands what's going on, especially in relation to sexual matters. Children can't voluntarily give their permission to engage in sexual acts unlike even a teenager or a young adult because they don't understand what sex entails. It's not that hard, Stallman.

not a pedo but if your hot teacher came onto you when you were a horny 12 yo would you have happily gona along with it??

If you can coerce a dead person into sex then you've earned it.

No, I'd probably be afraid and confused at the whole situation.

>They are illegal thanks to how government makes you think, that children invovled in anything sexual is very bad and 100% hurt and harm
Holy shit you're actually taking the stance of defending pedophiles. The fuck is wrong with you

i watch incest porn regularly without tor. why the fuck is it a big deal it's pretty hot.

I definitely would have enjoyed it. I was horny as fuck from 12-15 yrs.
But also ugly and from a small town.

please think on the mutants

He's not completely wrong, however, because its so likely active paedophilia will cause problems and because children develop at such different rates, it should be illegal.

This issue is much akin to the issue of age of consent. Teenagers develop at different rates, so a 14 year old for example could well be mature enough to understand what's happening... or they might be not. To cope with this, an arbitrary, or average number is usually chosen as the age of consent. That way courts don't have to waste their time with every single abuse case wondering whether or not the child was mature enough or not.

>We purposefully oppress and persecute anybody who takes advantage of them
should start with the parents desu the poor kids never asked to be born

Ok...I am down with these things legal. However I think that private and public institutions should legally be able to discriminate anyone who participates in these acts, aside from law enforcement and health-care.

Go ahead and torrent TB's of loli porn without fear of party vans. But if I own a restaurant or store I shouldn't be able to get sued for throwing your ass out.

Will never understand these arguments.

99% of parents do not want their children to have sex, and that is why age of consent exists. And those children will grow up to be parents who have the same mindset.

It's not difficult to understand unless you are complete retard.

The stealing metaphor isn't quite correct, because the public at large usually assumes guilt for any kind of sex crimes, whereas other offences have a higher chance of people believing the charges are false

The absolute state of neo/g/

I think terry should be up there, maybe a picture of Mary and Jesus with stallman as Mary and terry as Jesus

>Marxist advocating for immoral behavior

Imagine my shock.

what if the child consents tho