Prostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, and even incest and pedophilia … should be legal as long as no one is coerced. They are illegal only because of prejudice and narrowmindedness.
I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing.
There is little evidence to justify the widespread assumption that willing participation in pedophilia hurts children. Granted, children may not dare say no to an older relative, or may not realize they could say no; in that case, even if they do not overtly object, the relationship may still feel imposed to them. That's not willing participation, it's imposed participation, a different issue.
Kids are easily manipulated. That's the whole point of making that stuff illegal.
Ayden Nguyen
Stalledmeme should be removed from the sticky.
Jacob Cruz
Yup we need new face for 2018.
Lincoln Hernandez
Is Richard Stallman a Jew? Is this why he advocates for Marxist software?
Jeremiah Adams
he's right you know
I was "molested" frequently from age 6-12 by a family member and enjoyed it
im a girl btw
Levi Hughes
pic related
Yes
Angel Reyes
Yep, him and Lunduke are based Jews/
Justin Rivera
God damnit. Every single time.
Cameron Phillips
/thread
Austin Brown
completely agreeing
Charles Carter
This MODS
Ayden Thomas
We don't need a new face but that fat disgusting fuck needs to go off this board.
Joseph Carter
This, Linus should be the sticky.
Caleb Thomas
fucking finally, freetards are a cancer on this board, ever since they hijacked it in 2008
Jordan Diaz
surprised NOT filthy pedokikes
Joseph Foster
Remember when we had word filters? We need to bring that back. We need a filter for "free software".
Mason King
Voluntary necrophilia. Really makes you wonder.
Jackson Scott
I say the Wizard of Woz should be the replacement.
Landon Bailey
he's right, you know
most people are easily manipulated. what you need to manipulate them changes with age, but they remain prey.
in childhood, it's charm. in adolescence, it's charisma. in adulthood, it's wealth.
every pedophile allowed to operate is snatching up gfs and bfs before they reach the wealth stage of their lives. the wealthy, who are also the lawmakers and driving force behind changes in popular morality, don't like this. if the wealthy have their say, you must be 20 to have sex, and any younger is rape, because they would be out competed by the charismatic otherwise. if the charismatic have their say, you must be at least 15-16 to have sex, because they would lose to the charming otherwise. if the charming have their say, it's 8, because they have few talents and really want to get laid.
Colton Nelson
Hello Michael :)
Luke Davis
>pilpul >logical fallacies >goyim nodding heads typical tools of the kike
Evan Wilson
I'm waiting for you to get called crazy, stupid, troll etc by people who struggle to cope with reality kek
Chase Long
you'd think a forum of edgy atheists would find solidarity with stallman
Carson Wood
Lol this telegram group is really cool and funny
Juan Collins
There is a word filter you DUMB C.UCK.
Logan Thompson
>fuck a girl you are jailed >cross an imaginary line and it is completely ok to do the same
walnuts in overdrive
Christopher Ramirez
you can look at it in many different ways, i guess. your logic somewhat makes sense but if we define "kid" as someone who hasn't hit puberty yet then it should be illegal because they are not biologically able to reproduce at that time. underdeveloped brains of kids could be another reason why pedo shit is illegal. heh, the more i think about this the more i think i was baited hard.
David Fisher
(((Stallman)))
Jordan Martin
lol, you are the one the underdeveloped brain and your completely arbitrary definitions are concern to none
Brayden Turner
>Prostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, and even incest and pedophilia … should be legal as long as no one is coerced. They are illegal only because of prejudice and narrowmindedness. They are illegal thanks to how government makes you think, that children invovled in anything sexual is very bad and 100% hurt and harm >I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing. I think he is saying young girls that seduce boys and men, yes they exist and they wouldn't mind having sex any other day >There is little evidence to justify the widespread assumption that willing participation in pedophilia hurts children. They made us think this way, that no matter the situation, it will harm children and it is bad for them. this is a good point and it also means that you can manipulate them to do anything else. But the assumption is that the older one manipulates by teaching about sex, what if the child learns everything by herself?
mfw there could be girls that visit their sex offenser in jail cause they miss the pleasure but we weren't made to think that way
Sebastian Ross
fair enough. the topic itself is not concerning to me.
Logan Torres
You have a point, but I don't agree with most of it.
The change of what is attractive as you grow up is something I'm really noticing now that I'm 23 though.
At 15-18 girls didn't care about money. They were also both more easy to get into a relationship with and less likely to cheat. They didn't mind having their parents pick you both up even if your family didn't have a car.
At 20+ status is very important. Getting picked up by your gf in her car? Don't think so. Now you need to be both decently socially adept and somewhat wealthy.
Adam Garcia
Ok. What, I disagree with him on some things so I have to dismiss all he's done and my agreement with him on other things? I don't play the identity politics game, fuck off
Jeremiah Collins
He's right, but what does this have to do with technology?
Leo Brooks
Children are a protected class. We purposefully oppress and persecute anybody who takes advantage of them and assign legal guardians to handle their affairs from the moment they become citizens (birth).
Josiah Stewart
>pic related Unironically YES.
Juan Martin
he did not say that, if you look at the link
he is saying 'dubya nominated a caveman' who said that
he is criticizing it
/thread
Henry King
Autists should really learn to shut the fuck up about kiddy diddling. There's really nothing to gain by trying to argue the finer points of sex with children to normies.
Cooper Russell
As expected of techloli/g/y's official mascot!
Mason Evans
based stalledman
Gavin Davis
Why do you think Stallman is so obsessed about privacy? What do you think is on his HDD?
Michael Cox
Put Elon Musk there
Christopher Baker
>incest should be legal as long as no one is coerced Agree
David Bailey
yea protected class are the most dangerous as more they can abuse the power
Lucas Barnes
Half of my class lost their "purity" before 14. Of course most of us fuck each other, but girls liked older dickheads from middle school too. This is the reality, everything else is a meme and overprotecting. Obviously, (the lack of) sexual education harms more kids than pedobears on the streets.
Leo Phillips
>saved
Cooper Thompson
I think it's more a conflict of innocent until proven guilty and the problems of proving someone wasn't giving consent. I'm all for putting someone that's less politically divisive up there. Knuth perhaps. Though he's mostly known among luddites for the premature optimization quote. And the argument that was made isn't even accurately understood. Usually people who use that quote argue for you to ignore major performance gains. I'm rambling.
Ryder Jones
Indeed. I'm protected by laws which don't allow you to steal. You will be oppressed if you steal my property. I can "abuse" this power by accusing you of stealing my property but you have innocence under the eyes of the law unless there's overwhelming proof that your actions contradict your account of events.
United States Department of Health and Human Services, Administration for Children and Families, Administration on Children, Youth and Families, Children’s Bureau. Child Maltreatment Survey, 2013 (2014).
This survey indicates there are 63,000 cases of known incestuous coercion in 2013 and 2014. Please tell me the legal advantages of writing a caveat into law which would protect adults who can have sex with anything else and how this protects the thousands of victims there are per year?
>Obviously, (the lack of) sexual education harms more kids than pedobears on the streets.
completely true.
Landon Davis
Innocence is the default for any accused criminal. That's not under dispute. The problem with children giving consent to sexual relations is the exact same as them consenting to entering a mortgage, buying stocks, enlisting or entering the workforce. We don't let kids do ANY of these things because they don't have enough mental capacity to make a reasoned decision.
Kayden Thompson
He's not wrong.
This guy knows.
Blake Hernandez
My nig
Brody Bell
...
Jose Hernandez
Disgusting pedos
Jeremiah Morgan
he's right
Carson Collins
I actually would like this.
Levi Miller
he is saying something interesting about "preventative" laws
>we should have strict gun control to prevent people from shooting up schools >but shooting up school is already illegal
>we have age of consent laws to prevent people from coercing 15 years olds into having sex with them >but why not just make under-age-coercive-sex illegal?
these two issues are (seemingly) not on the same page
Christian Turner
>Jew advocating degeneracy
Colour me surprised.
Brandon Powell
It should be Terry.
Jaxon King
>most people are easily manipulated. what you need to manipulate them changes with age, but they remain prey. yes, but a minor is considered vunerable which cannot respond for their actions. Its the same principles with legal age to drive, own a gun, drink, etc. But an adult, if he is manipulated, well, too bad, he should be able to take care of himself, but a kid cannot.
idk in murica but in my country, if you have sex with a kid younger than 14 years old it is not only pedophilia, but also RAPE of a vulnerable person, EVEN if that kid consents to having sex and say in court "I wanted it"
Robert Garcia
I'm fine with and don't care about most of that shit except the shit involving children since children are too young to actually give a valid letter of consent to a party that understands what's going on, especially in relation to sexual matters. Children can't voluntarily give their permission to engage in sexual acts unlike even a teenager or a young adult because they don't understand what sex entails. It's not that hard, Stallman.
Cameron Rivera
not a pedo but if your hot teacher came onto you when you were a horny 12 yo would you have happily gona along with it??
Logan Hill
If you can coerce a dead person into sex then you've earned it.
Camden Morgan
No, I'd probably be afraid and confused at the whole situation.
Kevin Diaz
>They are illegal thanks to how government makes you think, that children invovled in anything sexual is very bad and 100% hurt and harm Holy shit you're actually taking the stance of defending pedophiles. The fuck is wrong with you
Ethan Kelly
i watch incest porn regularly without tor. why the fuck is it a big deal it's pretty hot.
Lincoln Walker
I definitely would have enjoyed it. I was horny as fuck from 12-15 yrs. But also ugly and from a small town.
Oliver Kelly
please think on the mutants
Leo Moore
He's not completely wrong, however, because its so likely active paedophilia will cause problems and because children develop at such different rates, it should be illegal.
This issue is much akin to the issue of age of consent. Teenagers develop at different rates, so a 14 year old for example could well be mature enough to understand what's happening... or they might be not. To cope with this, an arbitrary, or average number is usually chosen as the age of consent. That way courts don't have to waste their time with every single abuse case wondering whether or not the child was mature enough or not.
Brandon Clark
>We purposefully oppress and persecute anybody who takes advantage of them should start with the parents desu the poor kids never asked to be born
Andrew Carter
Ok...I am down with these things legal. However I think that private and public institutions should legally be able to discriminate anyone who participates in these acts, aside from law enforcement and health-care.
Go ahead and torrent TB's of loli porn without fear of party vans. But if I own a restaurant or store I shouldn't be able to get sued for throwing your ass out.
Camden Ortiz
Will never understand these arguments.
99% of parents do not want their children to have sex, and that is why age of consent exists. And those children will grow up to be parents who have the same mindset.
It's not difficult to understand unless you are complete retard.
Justin Walker
The stealing metaphor isn't quite correct, because the public at large usually assumes guilt for any kind of sex crimes, whereas other offences have a higher chance of people believing the charges are false
Elijah Morgan
The absolute state of neo/g/
I think terry should be up there, maybe a picture of Mary and Jesus with stallman as Mary and terry as Jesus