Why do most people end up with kids ? I don't wanna sound edgy or anything...

Why do most people end up with kids ? I don't wanna sound edgy or anything, but you obviously have more time and money to do the things you love when you're not a parent, so what's the appeal ?

We'll keep this secret between us.

What secret ?

Adults that are not man/woman-babies realise that raising the next generation is one of their many responsibilities to society, while other "adults" with kids are likely just 24/7 drunk dumb gopniks that were too poor to get an abortion and those kinds of people erode the nation through their destructive lack of vision and low class breeding.

You and your hundred-thousand years of ancestry live on through your progeny, frog.

and of others 7 billion people

dumb reason

>while other "adults" with kids are likely just 24/7 drunk dumb gopniks that were too poor to get an abortion and those kinds of people erode the nation through their destructive lack of vision and low class breeding.

Isnt this like 99,9999999999% of russia though ?

Yeah but as an individual why should I care ? All I want is to have a comfy life, then I die and as far as I'm concerned, so does the rest of the world. Why build the future when you can never look back ?

A solid argument.

t. permavirgin

once you get a gf and start fucking you eventually want to do it raw. that's natural, and naturally that ends up creating babies.

just use pills

Is the US so much of third world shithole that your women don't take the pills ?

I'd give a proper response to this bait if it was coming from a country other than the homeland of chavs and neds tbqh

Like Slav McGee pointed out here it's not nearly as important now as it was several decades ago so maybe it is time to stop giving a fuck. You'll never be able to keep up Black, Asian or Hispanic birth rates anyway.

When you're older, they support you. They also give you a sense of accomplishment and passing on a legacy, basically meaning. There isn't a lot of meaning to living itself as you age.

There's a reason why older folks dote on their children and grandchildren so much, it's all they truly cherish when they are only a decade or so from death.

and maybe reproduction is our true meaning in life, if anything can be construed, I definitely don't want to be the weak link in my genetic chain dating back 700 million years.

>Pills
called plan b for a reason, and she only has to forget once, retards.

>that image
Fucking antibiotics, man...

Same here, I don't want kids.

Maybe because the biological goal of every species is to reproduce?

Are you talking about ECPs ?
Cause I've never met a girl who wasn't on the regular pills here, maybe it's different in the US.

>what are afterpills

virgin kid pls go

this is the reason france is muslim nigger now, keep on frog

>antibiotics
Fossil fuel exraction, the haber process and the green revolution are ever bigger contributors to population growth.

This is only a Paris thing and a Sup Forums fantasy, I don't know so many foreigners and most of them are nice.

Every species doesn't have free will and an advanced form of society

most women i know hate taking the daily pill because of how it fucks with them, and they again lapse in taking the pills and can get pregnant if they do so.

How do you define free will and an advanced form of society

these are our own concepts and constructs

reproduction is an inherent property of our material universe, your "advanced society" could be a colony of shit flinging chimps to some higher form of intelligence

>free will

>How do you define free will
I don't, philosophers did it for me

>an advanced form of society
We live in the most advanced form of society known in the Universe, you can hardly deny that social interactions, economics, laws, politics and administrations are far more complex and organized than in animal groups.

The pill is really not good for you. You thought messing with a natural bodily cycle was a good idea?

Shut up and wear a condom.

Because that's your only biological purpose: to make the world better for your offspring.

That's the case when you're a creature of instinct, but I like to think that most of us actually think this through ...

"The more artistic a man becomes, the less inclined he is to the pleasures of the flesh. In the final analysis, fornication is the art of the brute."

-- Charles Bauderlaire

>That's the case when you're a creature of instinct
Which we are, our natural fight or flight responses don't magically disappear because we live in more comfy, civilized times. We can rationalize all we want that children suck and are a burden on us, but in evolutionary terms those who don't breed or choose not to fade away, while those that do are the ones who'll survive to live in the world they helped create.

>Cause I've never met a girl who wasn't on the regular pills here

That does not say good things about the typical French female.

>Which we are
citation needed

You love someone so much you want to see the result of a fusion

You lack meaning in your grind

You actually didnt want but she did

Having kids before 30yo is stupid and reckless. The thing is that you can't give enough goods to a kid before 30yo.

Speaking biologically: that's the meaning of life, to reproduce. It's just an instinct that every single living thing has.

do you really think people plan out every instance of sexual intercourse in their relationship? are you really this autistic?

Kids that grow up rich and spoiled with everything become worthless; they never learn how to handle money or be fiscally responsible.

Evolution doesnt mean shit at this point, there are people who are unable to move one limb since day 0 being kept alive for 70 years, there are people with serious handicaps having children. 99.999999999999% of people are insignificant and will be forgotten within generations, doesnt matter how many children they had. How often do you think about father of your great grandfather?

>citation needed
Literally biology. We have hormones that influence our body to react in certain ways to certain situations. Those hormonal responses are what dictates survival for the average human.

It does in terms of our willingness to reproduce.

Also Evolution doesn't inherently imply beneficial traits are passed down.

>99.999999999999% of people are insignificant and will be forgotten within generations
It takes a million meaningless grunts to serve the 1% of important people.

90% of them are on the pill and have regular sex, so what ? "Muuh sluts", who gives a shit, we're objects in space and not some kind of spiritual embodiment ...

You're dumb as shit niggas, having a baby IS something you do actually plan unless you're a fucking beast, just because you have a urge for sex (that is the manifestation of your so called biology) doesn't mean you lose all control over your brain ...

>90% of them are on the pill and have regular sex
Yep, with Abu and Mehdi. :^)

>can't have kids
>surprise creampie every woman

Hope that doesn't backfire someday

whatever gets you through your day

>white knighting degenerate clubsluts
This man is the reason the white race is dying.

>You're dumb as shit niggas, having a baby IS something you do actually plan unless you're a fucking beast, just because you have a urge for sex (that is the manifestation of your so called biology) doesn't mean you lose all control over your brain ...
you're retarded if you haven't gotten this by now: sex happens spontaneously in the relationship and it takes only one of you to forget birth control and bang there's the chance of a baby.

>having a baby IS something you do actually plan unless you're a fucking beast
Good job reducing your fellow humans to animals, not reductionist at all.
>just because you have a urge for sex (that is the manifestation of your so called biology) doesn't mean you lose all control over your brain
For many people, especially in poor shitholes, birth control isn't an option. Planning pregnancies is something that most humans don't do because they don't think that far ahead.

>We live in the most advanced form of society known in the Universe, you can hardly deny that social interactions, economics, laws, politics and administrations are far more complex and organized than in animal groups.

>known in the Universe

Exactly, restricted by our own, incredibly limited understanding. We don't know much at the end of the day. What do we know? Having children continues our existence. Maybe continued existence will reveal the what we've been searching for. At any rate it is comfort when you are old and irrelevant. That's all I care about.

I'm not whiteknighting I just don't give a fuckl about their behavior

what is abortion
+ I don't give a fuck about poor shitholes I'm talking about the civilized world

As an individual why would you care about continuing the existence of the human race ?

The reasons I can think of are:
Love , they loved their parents and family , and now want to have children of their own and carry on the name .
Accident , woman got knocked up and one party was against abortion so the child got born .
Money , FUCKING GYPSIES (or any other minority really , this stands for niggers in america too , damn welfare queens)

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>What is an abortion
confirmed for retard, that's even worse to do for the woman.

>+ I don't give a fuck about poor shitholes
Stupid, trashy people aren't limited to poor shitholes.

certainly not worse than raising a fucking child for the next 20 years

Okay let's make it clear this thread is about normal middle-class people from the first world.

Wait if niggers and Jews can destroy the white race this easily, which is the master race here?

People like baby's, they're predisposed to thinking they're cute and to showing them affection. Western culture tends to value youth and vitality over old age. Our brains are hard wired to desire offspring, it's one of the reasons we obsess over sex in most human cultures, because the act of making a child is exciting to us.

Jews obviously.

>What is adoption
>What is the horrifying physiological effects of an extremely invasive surgery that proceeds to fuck up your hormones for months
go and stay go, makhmoud

>Why do most people end up with kids ?
Because that is the only thing that really matters in life and instincts evolved to make sure people wanted some.

It's either that or having a kid for the rest of your life mate, the choice is rather easy I think, plus there's the EDC

>As an individual why would you care about continuing the existence of the human race ?

I spelled it out for you. The longer we exist the higher chance of finding answers, as we've been progressively doing for some time.

I'm not just an individual, I'm part of a broader collective which is the human race and every component matters.

Ever notice how the shit tier people reproduce the most, and the smartest people that actually contribute to this world almost never have kids? Why is that? It should be the other way around. Imagine a society where doctors and scientists were the ones that shit out 5+ kids instead of welfare niggers/mexicans/white trash.

>Sex is central to everything in life

refute this

>Western culture tends to value youth and vitality over old age
This is especially true of American culture which even back in the 19th century was noted by Europeans for its unusual glorification of youthfulness.

Because priorities.

Kids are their (stupid people) only sense of validation and accomplishment

it's absurd but makes sense

my Facebook is disgusting because of this, even if the kids are sometimes cute I feel for them

my dad barely made it out of a shitty redneck family in one piece and was ironically saved by Christianity

I can not comprehend this kind of thinking, we have two very opposite personalities.

>the lower and less sophisticated an organism is, the more it reproduces
This is just one of the iron laws of biology.

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Sex and violence
The dichotomy is best demonstrated by our cousins the chimpanzees and the bonobos. Sex and violence in varying degrees are how great apes organise their society.

You're more individualistic. That's fine, but realize that individualists tend to be more depressed because of the reasons you stated before.

Basically because it's biological_imperative.exe, at least for women (and to a lesser degree for men as well). From the viewpoint of your genes, your entire body is just support structure to keep you alive long enough to reproduce and raise your offspring until they can do the same.

I'm not materialistic at all so money doesn't concern me. The only reason why I want a high paying job is to prove that I can do it and my sense of competition with other men, really. If the rest goes to kids that's fine with me.

I can't live my life thinking my only purpose is to be a fat turd watching TV, eating ice cream, or going on yet another rote seaside vacation, I'm in my early 20's and it's already burnt out.

I've always had a problem with living in the future and maybe this is just another part of that. I don't think what I'm saying is wrong though, it basically boils down to what you value and what contents you.

But violence is predicated on sex again. We are violent to attain sex, through direct or secondary means. Victory in war meant spoils and that meant women.

Fighting another man, while perhaps not directly over a woman, can convey strength, superiority, and then achieve more sexual attainment.

If you reduce most things we do, even recreationally, they are likely impulses associated with actions that ensured our survival and then reproducibility. Or even viewing these things, which trigger the same kind of positive responses within our brains (like TV or video games).

>I can't live my life thinking my only purpose is to be a fat turd watching TV, eating ice cream, or going on yet another rote seaside vacation

Well that's the thing, I travel A LOT, I do a lot of sports and hang out all the time, and I know having a kid would just fuck my whole life up. Most families end up lazy farts sitting on the couch every evening.

Yeah the world would be a better place if you were aborted.

You'll understand when you reach the right age.
It's mostly due to loneliness, but it's a bit more complicated. Novelties wear out and you're left with nothing to do/enjoy. Sort of.
Think about winning an open-world game. You feel empty, walk around for a while and then you start looking for something "useful" to do.


Don't force yourself to have kids, don't give in to pressure from retarded siblings/parents.
Unfortunatelly many people have kids too early in their lives, and a lot more people should never have kids (because they never reach the required emotional maturity, ie this russian).

In any case just do what you feel is right. If you don't want to have kids, don't. It's probably the right thing for you at this point in time.

>You'll understand when you reach the right age
I've heard that bullshit about all things in this world all my life and it was never true

Dude, why don't you just admit you're gay. It's pretty fucking obvious.

Having kids and getting married is pretty dumb tbqh. I don't really want to have to mop up shit for the rest of my life.

Even traveling doesn't help. It's one planet after all. I enjoy it but that fulfillment will fade about a week after I'm done with the trip.

Kids are a challenging project and producing some that are raised right and grow into achievers appeals to me, at least right now. I'm not willing my opinion on anyone but this is my perspective.

Because I enjoy fucking women ?
Plus fags always want to adopt kids

>Because I enjoy fucking women ?
You can always be bi m8

I don't think I'd enjoy fucking a guy, I can't get hard with gay porn and I've never felt attracted to a man

>Because I enjoy fucking women ?
Sure you do, buttboy.

So you've tried watching gay porn at one point, lmao. Literally a gay homosexual in denial.

He's gonna be like Mr. Garrison in South Park standing on top of a mountain and yelling "I'M NOT GAAAAAYYYYYY..."

I actually have, when I'm high I like sissy stuff so I once tried normal gay shit but I couldn't lift it. It's not something I'm embarrassed with.

>I don't think I'd enjoy fucking a guy
That just means you're a bottom bb.

I wouldn't enjoy getting fucked by a guy either

Kids are cool but only if it's a girl.

>have a son
>the little shit is harder to discipline and when he becomes a teenager he'll declare his father to be a past-it old man and try to challenge his supremacy
>have a daughter
>wait 10 or so years and enjoy sex with her

Don't have kids.

Man, you can't do anything fun with a girl. You can't talk about cool shit like sports or science or technology with her. All she'll care about is putting on makeup and shitty pop singers.

I don't know about the rest of the world but in Britain most people end up with kids by mistake

I have 6 close relatives who have kids and they all had them accidentally

>Cousin, 23 years old, 2 kids
Had her first kid when she was 18 when a chav knocked her up. Had her second kid who is now 2 because she went to Spain and got pregnant from a local. She named her son 'Fernando' even though she didn't meet anyone called Fernando

>Cousin, 19 years old, 1 kid
Has a 1 year old baby son. Got raped in a nightclub

>Sister, 25 years old, 3 kids
First kid at 14, second at 16, third at 20. Her first kid is 11 years old now. Last month it was his birthday and he pulled down my pants on the bouncy castle and started telling everyone 'my willy is bigger than anons, I saw anons willy on the castle, if a princess was in the castle she would want a prince with a bigger willy'

>Mother, 60, 2 kids
Me and My sister, she said neither were planned but tbf did a good job with me.

>Cousin, 14 years old, had a baby daughter 4 months ago
Not sure this counts as an accident. basically she asked me for advise on how to have children for some reason and I assumed it was a joke so told her about semen and told her that being pregnant would help her acne because the baby would kick and slowly drill out the spots from inside her, now she has 1 kid and 40 spots on her face

Like I said this is just Britain though