Mechanical hard drives

When will this worthless piece of hardware go away? Or when will the manufacture cabal step up their game and stop making it randomly die? Seriously, it's fucking ridiculous that you must buy several drives for redundancy to not lose data. You don't have to buy several processors to do a simple task, so why the fuck is this allowed? I'm sick of this shit. Why the fuck am I the only one aware of it?

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So you want a literally perfect device which never breaks? That doesn't exist and is impossible to make. HDDs won't go away either, since their $/TB is much better than solid state options and they're perfectly adequate for storage and for use cases which don't need amazing non-sequential performance. Good luck.

>When will this worthless piece of hardware go away?
when SSDs drop to a comparable price in dollars-per-terabyte terms. right now they're about 10-20 times more expensive.

SSDs lose data if it's not powered on for a week or so

Need better bait

They have capacitors that let them last for a few years. They're still not ideal for cold storage.

Still not good enough. Give me the real shit!

>thinking this is bait
The JEDEC spec requires the NAND flash itself to retain data at 30 degrees centigrade for at least 1 year in client use and at least 3 months in enterprise use. Manufacturers will also add capacitors to the drive just to bump up those minimum requirements to a few years. There is no need to worry about data retention when powering them down but they're still not ideal for cold storage.

>tfw i dont know what is and isnt bait anymore

Please stop trolling. If you think this is bait, you're a fucking retard.

How many posts you gonna make before you get the triggering out of your system?

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Yes, downplay it! Deflect the fact that you had to release your rage in three separate posts!

>things i don't like to see or read is bait

Ok cancer

>That doesn't exist and is impossible to make.
Light bulbs are supossed to last forever, if properly made.But then someone realised that would be bad for business.Same with DuPont when they started making indestructible nylon pantyhoses.

You can't stop entropy, the best you can do is eclipse its absolute verdict through abstract concepts of redundancy.

>You don't have to buy several processors to do a simple task, so why the fuck is this allowed?

If your processor eventually fails to do a task, you just get a new processor to do the task.

If your storage device eventually fails to store data, you've lost that data unless you've backed up the data to other storage devices.

That's just the nature of storing data vs doing work on data.

Theser are extremely precise, have multiple fast moving parts on head & platters.

And the method of dealing with drive failure is just to have redundancy. Good thing these drives are cheap, deal with it.

If you think tapes or whatever suit you better go for it.

Last a lifetime, huh?

Most people would consider the bad thing to be the industry standardizing on around 1000h from 1500-2000h life spans from before, nothing nearly as good as LED today...

That's a myth. The primary cost associated with light bulbs is energy expenditure. The light bulbs that last "forever" have terrible energy efficiency.

I have a old drive from 2006 i still use on my laptop and it works just fine

This is hilariously false and the fact that you responded back to the other post proves you weren't joking

>When will this worthless piece of hardware go away?
When flash storage isn't 10x as expensive anymore.

Just bought a new one for my lappy

Anything with moving parts will eventually break you noob.

>these are posts on a 'tech' board.

Sup Forums is pathetic. I come here for jokes only now.

You have not refuted the post, you literal sperg.

>t. user who paid money for a maxstor hdd
At least with mechanical HDDs you can sometimes get some warning that they're about to fail and transfer your data off the failing drive, e.g. click of death

>4TB HDD is dirt cheap, 111 bucks
>4TB is 1500, probably more expensive than the main PC of half of Sup Forums
Gee I wonder why

>500gb ssd = $150
>3tb 7200 hdd = $70

Gee, i dunno

>263 hours
>C1 already at 12315
how long do these last?

mechanicals are here to stay
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And the problem being..?

my desktop green had 140k after 3 years

that's a lot of porn

question why did my harddrive already 35k power on hours ? is still brand new is it refurb drive? wat do?

SSD's actually lose all stored data as soon as they are no longer powered. They do not last 1 week.

>desktop
Maybe that's the reason? This is the old HDD.

everything is bait if you are fish enough

Maybe laptop hdds are more durable

Laptop drives in desktop last the same as 3.5 drives.

It's the heat and vibrations that kill them in laptops.

Nice bait. Did not power my PC for 2 months due to a Hurricane and they worked fine, no data loss. and on top of that had a OCZ sdd and both worked fine

According to who? JEDEC themselves require the NAND flash to have a minimum set period of time for data retention to consider it acceptable for normal usage. You're just retarded.

>Why the fuck am I the only one aware of it?
Because your view is completely retarded. Other retards/tech illiterates and trolls will be aware of it.

>Seriously, it's fucking ridiculous that you must buy several drives for redundancy to not lose data.
This is true for ANY storage device. SSD/tape/DVD/flash drives/stone tablets/etc. Storage and backups must always be redundant because we do not live in a fantasy world were stuff doesn't break or gets stolen/burned.

>You don't have to buy several processors to do a simple task
Completely different discussion. You don't need two HDDs to do a simple task. You do need two HDDs for redundancy. You actually DO need two CPUs when you can't have downtime because of a failure. This is why computing clusters exists.

I'm not posting this for OP because he is a fukken troll. I post this for he uninformed newfriendos which will someday make Sup Forums great again.

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Doens't matter. Only the info is lost. The drive isn't damaged in any way. Just restore from backups and you're good to go.

If you verified the data with a hash and tested it after two months of no power would you still say it's fine, you fucking oblivious daft cunt?

> . Storage and backups must always be redundant because we do not live in a fantasy world were stuff doesn't break or gets stolen/burned.
> You do need two HDDs for redundancy.
t. Seagate

Should've changed that to at least 10 drives since all of your fails on a daily basis.

>Implying you use a check summing filesystem that would actually detect corruption.
You are probably a winfag who thinks if the filesystem check completes successfully there's no data corruption.

I hope you're trolling nigga.

You LITERALLY need two or more devices for redundancy because the smallest amount of devices that can fail at once is one (1).

>inb4 zero, zero failing devices is not a failure.

Can't believe I'm feeding trolls.

just had a great business plan volatile flash drives hype you could hype them up to normies just by using the word volatile then sell hundreds

Volatile flash is a bit of a contradiction.

Volatile USB memory however could be useful for sneakernetting large amounts of data very fast.

this is my oldest drive been in my pc 5 years before that it was inside of a sky+hd box so don't know how old the drive actually is maybe 7 years

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guys lets place system on ram