If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Consider Vega 56 for a Freesync monitor >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
Is it okay if my Ryzen core voltage of a 1700 at 3.9GHz is 3.12v while in stress test? I let it overnight for 8 hours or so in the test and it kept good, or should I try more? And will the OC affect the CPUs lifespan by any chance if I just leave it like that?
Daniel Bailey
multitasking but high single core needs and no games newer than 2016 @1080p/60fps so new GPUs don't seem worth it to me yet
James Foster
I feel like I should be able to find a 1440p monitor with a refresh rate higher than 60hz for $250 but I'm having trouble Everything is so damn expensive but damn this will be sweet once I put it together. Tired of waiting for something to go on sale
Caleb Smith
The 1700 isn't even competition
I just realized the 8700k is basically Intel's answer to the 2000 series and they're following up with a bonus generation
Hence all the stock shortages, its basically a low stock product like the 5820k and like the 5820k being shat on by Skylake this one will be shat on by another Coffee Lake
Anthony Gomez
do i need to use my disk for my graphics card cant I just use a VGA cable?
Brandon Russell
do you have an AMD or Nvidia GPU
Landon Jenkins
How do I pick out a case that Sup Forums won't make fun of me for owning?
this PC is specifically for storage needs, network backups for everyone in the house and all their devices, and a dedicated encoding/compiling machine.
I'm torn between the drives. For the same price I can get 12TB Seagate Ironwolf drives.
Josiah Foster
You can usually get 1440p/144Hz/IPS for $500, $400 on sale and TN for a bit cheaper. If you need something lower wait until next year when 4k/120Hz monitors come out, 1440p monitors will hopefully drop in price.
Charles Rivera
Coffee Lake was just pulled forward to slow Ryzen sales, Intel doesn't even care about Coffee Lake sales hence the low stock. It's probably the most cynical CPU launch in history, Intel was willing to throw Kaby Lake under the bus, anything to keep people from buying AMD.
Hudson Hernandez
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build I'm already way over budget for this. Wanted to keep it at 1k-1.2k$ but I might need the GPU for my uses. >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work Unreal Engine, 3d Software (blender), DAW (not sure if i need a dedicated soundcard or higher HZ) >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing Unreal engine, Don't give a shit about 144hz or 1440p
Also, I don't know what I'm doing. Tried to stick with the Sup Forums preset build components
Really wanted to get Ryzen but I don't think it is comparable in performance for my specific uses. Apparently, Intel 7700k is better than Ryzen for Unreal. So I assume Intel i5 8400k should be better for Ryzen, except I can't OC the 8400k though but I don't think that is an issue. The Ryzen might have better performance for DAW/Blender but I haven't looked at benchmarks for that.
thing is, it didn't slow ryzen sales at all, they grew, but no stock killed kaby and they can't make enough coffee to sell people.
Jason Sullivan
So I took a look at pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Unreal-Engine-200/Hardware-Recommendations and saw that they reccommend 32GB of ram and i7-7820k for Unreal, Daw, and 3d Rendering. This would bring the cost to over 2k USD. However, they also recommend 4k monitors unironically because 4k is too gud for productivity clicks or something. Do I need that much ram or is it just a meme?
Nathan Harris
First time builder. Can someone explain some things to me like i'm retarded?
Do things like wifi and usb ports come as part of the case/basic components or do i need to add them in on top of that?
On steam fallout 4 (for example) says 'Graphics: NVIDIA GTX 550... or equivalent', how do i find out what's equivalent?
What's the difference between AMD and Nvidia?
Gavin Martinez
Don't get a soundcard. Get an external DAC & Amp. The same quality, and can be used with other devices like a laptop, phone, etc.
Samuel Hernandez
Jesus Christ
Lucas Thompson
What's the bare minimum ryzen cpu to mate with a 1070?
Aaron Edwards
USB ports are built into the PC case and located on the motherboard I/O panel and PCI-E expansion cards. Only small form factor and top-tier motherboards have built-in wifi adapters. You can find gpu performance charts pretty much anywhere and price/performance comparisons.
As a rule of thumb, never buy any gpu more than 2 gens old for retail. The used market is always an option, but you can easily be ripped off if you don't know the value already. Try to get AIB partner cards rather than reference for better noise/cooling.
Easton Powell
>Have to put the 1700X against the 8700K for the price to stand a chance because of the Intel premium for unlocked This ain't no battle. Drop the 1700 there instead and it's done.
Connor Cox
Probably all of them will do fine since they're all at least quad cores. The only bottleneck will be above 100 fps due to the max frequency.
Carson Campbell
USB ports come as part of the motherboard and the case. Some motherboards come with wifi, you can also just buy and adapter. >On steam fallout 4 (for example) says 'Graphics: NVIDIA GTX 550... or equivalent', how do i find out what's equivalent? You can look up benchmarks, generally the higher the number and or price the better it will be.
Nathan Howard
where do i buy those animu stickers i see the mentally disabled putting on their thinkpads
Josiah Brooks
I see. That's great since i'm planning to run a dual 1080p 60hz setup with a single 1070.
Nicholas Edwards
any last words before I pull the trigger adn buy this shit Sup Forums?
Drop the gayming headset, grab a decent pair of /hpg/ recommended cans and you're good.
James Robinson
everyone's got to start somewhere, sue me thanks a lot, none of the guides i've read/watched really covered that and i'm really starting from zero knowledge here.
Aaron Sullivan
Asus over MSI imo, make sure it's the a proper 560 with 1024 Stream Processors and not the rebranded ones with like 800.
Aaron Roberts
>3 antennas >450 + potentially whatever 2.4GHz gives lmao what
Jason King
I don't understand. What's the problem? What should I look for in a wireless card? This one seemed fine from the reviews
Jace Davis
I don't think the 6 GB version has a great value, especially at 1080p where you shouldn't be starved for VRAM. The VRM looks fine, but if you're pushing the CPU OC then put a fan over it, that heatsink looks like garbage.
Have you made sure you like the keyswitches that thing ships with?
Don't get the GN246HL, I have it and while it's served me well, there are better panels out there now for the same price. It's a 6bit-FRC-to-8bit TN panel. Look at a VA panel or at least something that's a true 8 bit like: newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009769
I think at this point, if you're buying a new GPU you should pony up for 1440p. You're already planning on getting a nearly $300 card, so just go with the 1070. This guide might help: logicalincrements.com/monitors
Sebastian Wright
Don't worry about it, he's just laughing at the number fudging wifi routers and adapters always have.
Christian Watson
Hentai is porn too. Quit living in denial.
Isaiah Sanchez
Also there's no 5GHz AC on that, it seems. The Amazon listing also doesn't indicate that it supports MIMO if you really want to rock multiple antennas for more than just signal strength but instead overall throughput.
Tyler Hill
>Do things like wifi and usb ports come as part of the case/basic components or do i need to add them in on top of that?
Have you never connected anything to a desktop computer? I mean, a mouse or something?
Adam Brown
so is it bad for the price or not? I just want a fast wifi connection
Gabriel Rodriguez
Asus is 2gb compared to 4 for MSI, is that not a big factor?
Lucas Howard
If you're spending that much on gpu, there's little reason to not get r5 1600. 6 cores 12 threads and it'll only improve in relative performance as games/programs start utilizing more threads. Chances are if you try to save a few $ here, you'll be upgrading that 4 core in 2 years.
Kayden Long
Not really because that GPU isn't powerful enough to sustain FPS for higher textures anyway
The 1050 is a better bang for your buck imo, unless you need memesync or really hate Nvidia, I'd probably go for that
Matthew Perry
in budget cards it doesnt matter as much because you're essentially bottlenecked by the card to the point where you'll be running on medium or high so the extra memory is not exactly useless but probably unneeded
its like the difference between gaming on 8gb vs 16gb
of course all things equal, you'd want a 4gb over a 2gb card but i wouldn't pay a premium for it, at a certain point something like a 1050ti starts to make more sense
Fucking hell, is there really nothing as half as good as a regular ipad screen in terms of brightness? Looking for the above at 350cd/㎡ or higher in brightness,
Carson Cooper
Coffee Lake i3s aren't worth it when considering mobo costs vs the R5 1600. R5 build will be cheaper and have better perf both in gaming and in multithreaded tasks That basically leaves us with the R5 1400 as a middle ground CPU. It's only significantly better than the R3 1200 in a few games (although I'm sure this will change later), but it's just not really worth it right now in my righteous opinion. Better to get the R3 now and upgrade to a Zen 2 R5 if an R5 1600 is out of your price range. If you're doing any serious rendering etc the R5 1400 is a pretty bad deal compared to the R5 1600.
Liam Edwards
is be quiet loop the only 280mm AIO with a refill port?
Chase Johnson
>Coffee Lake i3s aren't worth it when considering mobo costs consider the value of an igpu for casul gaymanning in the current gpu market consider the lack of fucks needed to be given about checking RAM qvl lists when buying intel
Thomas King
>tfw you can build a solid gaming pc for less than what a single GTX1080 costs >tfw a super budget gaming pc can be built for the price of a GTX 1070
Despite of the ram pricing and mining fuckery, I think 2017 is a good time for pc building.
Carson Ramirez
Eh, R3 1200 with stock cooler would have saved you $20 that could have been rolled into a 1050Ti
If buy productivity, you mean word processing and browsing the net, it's fine
The "full" 560 is looking better as time goes on. Also it can be had with 4GB of RAM as insurance
The iGP is complete crap.. you could do almost as well with something like the G4560, which is a way better buy for light tasks like netflix.
Also the RAM thing is getting a lot better with Ryzen. Most sticks work as long as the BIOS is updated.
R5 1600 at 1080p R3 1200 at 1440p if you're super cheap, but I'd still get the R5 1600 anyway
Never go buy "recommended" specs. Check benchmarks for that game Also check out the benchmark's benchmarks, like The Witcher 3 or Assassin's Creed: Origins
Jacob Wilson
>If buy productivity, you mean word processing and browsing the net, it's fine
Basically the most strenuous thing it will be doing is occasionally displaying streamed content to a TV.
How'd I do? Can't too much higher in cost since i need everything delivered to Hawaii. Got the monitor for free, so I just wanna play games good at 1080, not planning to overclock, and not have to open the case for more than vent cleaning and paste replacement. Need the wifi mobo cause I'm too far from the modem and I don't own it.
Samuel Smith
if your sitting withing 3 feet of it, no.
Curved tv's are a meme though.
Jack Green
What's the success rate on unlocking the extra shaders on an RX 460?
Jason Fisher
hello friends , i am interested in purchasing an rtx 555 ti kingpin.
Juan Bailey
>60hz
Jaxson Gonzalez
is there anything i can do to save some money on this? upgrading my current computer isnt an option and every dollar counts.
Aaron Reed
Perfect. Nailed it.
Ayden Gomez
You could not buy windows.
Noah Green
Looking at a ryzen 1600x, what's more dangerous? Letting XFR spike the voltage up to 1.5 or constantly supplying it with 1.375v.
Matthew Harris
xfr shouldn't spike that high , maybe 1.4v .
Eli Long
A ryzen system might be better value for the money.
Carson Adams
>might
Adrian Perez
R3 1200 would be my guess
Michael Walker
I don't know much about PCs but a friend said this is the best I could get for $500 right now without gambling on ebay.
It will be just mainly for videogames. Am I better off getting a PS4 Pro or XB1 X?
Carson Perry
>Unreal Engine, 3d Software (blender), DAW (not sure if i need a dedicated soundcard or higher HZ)
get a 1600 instead its better for your use
Hunter Allen
Your pc wont pull more than 200w. You can easily get away with a 450w psu.The 1300x comes with a cooler, if you wont be overclocking you can save some more money if you skip the 212. You can use the saved money for a bigger hdd or something.
>wifi for desktop Have you considered homeplug?
Jacob Bailey
don't buy gaymen headsets
Gavin Torres
other than that shitty spaceship mouse it looks good
