I use Cinnamon Mint but that's Debian based. That count? At the time I was just trying to get rid of Windows on my laptop and liked the looks of the Cinnamon desktop.
What differences are there between running something Debian based and running Debian?
Andrew Lewis
>lincux >not using BSD
Jace Martinez
approved
Ryder Price
>I use Cinnamon Mint Just go back to windows. Mint and ubuntu is literally windows 7 tier. kys
John Garcia
Yes it has a familiar desktop environment but besides that it is still linux so fuck off.
Hunter Hill
>but besides that it is still linux so fuck off. >linux its called gnu/linux nigger faggot
Zachary Sanders
>sudo apt-get remove basic-calculator >1 package and 1067 dependencies will be removed. Is this ok? (Y/n)
Jace Jenkins
But does it make it easy to compile packages on your own?
Liam Gonzalez
I like arch more.
Gabriel Ross
>basic-calculator nigger what?
Tyler Hall
Who really gives a damn?
Cameron Hall
arch is bloat
Hunter Rodriguez
I haven't used debian/ubuntu in a long time, but I remember the entire desktop being wrapped into a giant metapackage dependency where removing one package removed the entire desktop.
Samuel Lewis
No is not. If you have more than 1200 packages and you don't need it - that's your own fault.
Christopher Robinson
You don't, go back to windows faggot.
Robert Lee
slackware is older
Liam Anderson
I'm using i3, do you think dwm is a good wm? Can i see your dwm desktop
Brody Murphy
Why should I? Because some pretentious douchebag online doesn't like it that I don't use the right linux?
Tyler Thompson
> I don't use the right linux? the state of Sup Forums. i miss the old days.
Dominic Cooper
Because declarative configuration and nixos. Otherwise, yes, debian is best.
Evan Howard
bu-but i do user, and i am happy with it. Really dont need anymore, is the most complete distro and non-autism based OS.
Also respects you but also got the option of install propietary software, true freedom
Cameron Myers
>tfw I use Debian I like it, it's simple to use. It was my first distro as well, before using Arch and other memes for some time. I have 2k+ packages though, I bet a huge chunk of them are due to Python.
Nathan Foster
Why? Did it make more sense back then because you sure as hell don't make any.
Ian Gray
dwm is an elegant choice, it has a minimal configuration file with extra patches available at the authors website. Arch's dwm comes pango capable so you can see unicode characters images top right. That xsetroot is a common tool used with dwm to display time, weather, acpi, etc..
Owen Brooks
I don't like spoon feeding newfags.But It sure is easy to spot one.
Colton Robinson
Packages are too outdated. I don't want to have to keep managing version environments cause the repository is way behind.
Adrian Thompson
But I am using already Ubuntu...
Charles Cook
Cause I use CentOS, the patrician's choice.
Joseph Adams
Very nice man! I think im gonna switch, getting tired of i3 anyways. Would it be possible to post your config.h?
Henry Powell
I came in going to find some user experiences with Debian. Instead I get attacked for the sin of having a different distro. When I installed Mint I did so because I didn't have the luxury of taking my time installing and learning linux when I had work to do. I liked to look of cinnamon so I made my choice.
Now I'm on holidays and was wanting to put a more robust OS on my laptop. I saw this thread and the first thing said to me is "go back to windows. Kys"?
I still want to learn debian but I sure as hell hope you aren't representative of the community.
Logan Green
I'm OP and my last thread got over 300 replies kek
Brayden James
>the actual state of debicucks Imagine having to live under the shadow of Ubuntu for all eternity.
Julian Bennett
What a sad little man
Julian Russell
Without debian, there would be no such thing as ubuntu.
Zachary Moore
because i use xubuntu and i care more about up to date and stable packages and a rice that works out of the box more than i care about bloat
Logan Turner
pastebin.com/22ZetB50
I changed it only a little bit specially to use rofi apart from dmenu with alt+p
>Debicucks keep telling that to themselves so they can pretend their irrelevant OS isn't irrelevant Jesus Christ user, just switch to Arch or something actually useful.
Blake Kelly
>Why aren't you using debian? I'm too old to accept outdated packages because of the politics game. When they refused to update libpcap because of a minor license change and I were stuck with an ancient version, I gave up Debian and never looked back.
Christopher Smith
I want to but I'm going to miss Pacaur. How hard is it to install packages that aren't in the main repositories on Debian?
Nicholas Watson
because I'm happy with Arch
Henry Garcia
itt samefags defending arch
Blake Cox
Just add non-free or contrib to the end of the URL in /etc/apt/sources.list like this: deb ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
Gavin Russell
how is kde on debian ?
Nathan Rivera
But don't you have to compile them from source and everything instead of just typing a simple command?
Levi Campbell
Nope. Debian has a binary based package manager. sudo apt install and it will do the rest for you.
Nathan Cooper
Oh that's cool... So what's the difference between apt install and apt-get?
Owen Barnes
I'm using it on debian stable right now. It has a few rough edges but it's blazing fast and stable in my intel/nvidia machine. I didn't like how it looked by default, but that's nothing you can't fix with kde.
Apt also has commands from apt-cache to search packages, for example. apt-get lacks that.
William Gutierrez
comfy
Charles Robinson
Because it got taken over by social justice fuckwads who bullied Ian to death.
David Cox
You're still running oldstable. You might want to upgrade to stable, mate.
Liam Bennett
I thought he was raped by a police woman then he killed himself.
James Ortiz
That was after he was bully. He then went in a mental breakdown and tweeted some shit. Then got 5-0'd Then got let out and tweeted some more shit and 'topped himself'.
Carter Smith
>tomate >clearly cherries But yeah, in several "popular gnu+linux distributions" the lengths of some dependency trees are absolutely haram.
Adam Foster
I've used HardenedBSD and OpenBSD and I honestly prefer Debian to both of them at least for desktop usage. They aren't shit at all, I just prefer that there's more software for Debian and it's easier to run certain programs like qemu and virtualbox, along with the more widely used Linux gcc environment and it has better drivers for my mouse and what not. I'll probably use a BSD as a server though; they were pretty nice to use.
Michael James
I ran debian 5 through 7 as primary OS on my home computer, then tried using 9 on a work laptop earlier this year. Samba never worked properly, nearly bloated myself up to 4000 installed packages, decided fuck it & went back to distro-hopping limbo. Comfy, comfy limbo.
>kde >blazing fast user, didn't your parents teach you that the internet is not a place for telling lies?
Daniel Garcia
dwm is blazing fast.
Christian Parker
I'm using devuan. for freedom from systemd.
Caleb Morris
Void
Brayden Cruz
Because everyone keeps pulling at me in different directions. >Ubuntu, Gentoo, Debian, Solus, Arch, Kali...
I don't even fucking know how to decide.
Mason Perry
Debian you cunt. close this tab right now.
Parker Johnson
wow I just test KDE on debian testing and it was shit, laggy, the suspend didn't works correctly, and was slow to start (2 min) and I don't if it's normal but it's seem upgrade fuck some of my .conf, like my /etc/default/grub and my firefox .conf
I hadn't problems like that on Tumbleweed
Gavin Cox
I'm just gonna install Kubuntu with backport, rolling are a pain in the ass
Grayson Smith
...
Ethan Nguyen
>Dat diacritic
Liam Scott
Stop trying to critique him you miserable fuck.
It's a god damn operating system relax
Nathaniel Cruz
Debian is for servers you fucking morons. Get a desktop distro.
Matthew Clark
I use it for both :P
Colton Ortiz
Yea, im deciding too, from what i gather Kali is just not suited for everyday use for some reason and Arch is very barebones you gotta add everything.
Joshua Moore
You can use Kali, and do some everyday stuff, but you should really know what you're doing. Chances are you don't need to use all that kali has to offer. I would think it as a swiss army-eske distro.
Why do you want to run linux?
Brody Cruz
I want to learn, I'm buying a 2nd hand laptop planning to put linux on it and learn bash or whatever shell, after that ill just use it for coding.
Jose Hernandez
How old is the laptop, and what's the brand?
Josiah Cox
I mean it will probably be a thinkpad or some other sort of business laptop, dunno how old it ends up being as long as it has a decent i5 or i7, also looking for some good battery life though.
Samuel Jenkins
If you want something like Kali, check out Parrot. It's based off of debian buster
Gabriel Johnson
Even though I love debian and kali, It's a fucking bitch to get drivers working. I would recommend OpenSuse, Ubuntu, or LinuxMint (Though personally, I've never tried the latter); whatever can get you up and running the fastest. As long as it's gnu/linux, the core utils don't really change.
Here's a post of mine from another thread that might benefit you if you want to start learning linux. I hope you enjoy computing!
Jason Rivera
Thanks man, I saved those books. I'll see what ends up happening with the distro
Wyatt Garcia
Got tired of arch's tedious bullsht but also didnt want bloat. Didnt take me to get xfce and i3gaps running. Used to use kde + i3gaps on arch but as much as i love kde its a buggy fucking mess.
Dominic Sanchez
Np, I wish someone helped me out years ago.
Carter Russell
Because its repos are full of outdated packages that I can't tune with USE flags.
Colton Harris
because a lot of free software is unusable garbage. I like Linux overall but I can't drop proprietary software completely which is the point of Debian in the first place
Nathan Edwards
My home server runs Debian because it is incredibly stable and once I have everything configured I want it to run for years with minimal effort. Debian is fantastic for this.
For desktop use I want newer software, so I use Kubuntu--LTS for workstations and the newest release for my daily driver laptop.
Ethan Rogers
Debian is literally a big mom (from one piece) of linux distros.
Debian is good but if you are looking for easy distros go ubuntu or mint.
Also you can go redhat or fedora
Other distros literally doesent count (most of linux versions of many software outside repos(like discord or teamwiever or most games on GOG) are in .deb supported by debian family or .rpm supported by redhat family)
Parker Williams
Semi off topic but honestly I'm new to running just a WM instead of a full desktop environment, currently openbox on Debian stretch with tint2 and polybar. Is there any way to make this just as functional as a DE without some of the bloat? I honestly love how it looks (except gtk programs, if anyone can recommend me a gtk theme that looks good and works with pywal lmk) and it's blazing fast but I find myself wasting time on things that are two clicks away on your standard DE.
Colton Butler
I have a Cisco router/modem. Cisco systems XB3 DPC3939. I took the plunge and installed Kali last night on my PC, I can get connection via plugging in directly to the comp, but I cannot get the OS to recognize my wifi, or to turn on monitoring. I get an iEEE error. What I need is a driver for my modem, but I cannot find one for the life of me, does anyone know where I can get the driver? and if not, would connecting a wifi router to my current router help? I need the router for my cable. Thanks.
Chase Murphy
>social contract yeah, nope, never signed such a contract. fuck off to soviet russia, commie
Joseph Young
kill yourself for being a retard
Liam Allen
I use it on my VPS and on one of my SBCs
Kayden Bailey
great post honestly this kind of bullshit is why peoplee dontuse linux
Aaron Morris
Continuing to reap the fruits of civilization, like the Internet you're using to shitpost on, is consent. Feel free to fuck off to a cabin in the woods, Kaczynski-style, if you want to really "go Gault."
You won't be missed.
Hunter Walker
But I am. It's really fucking stable, didn't have it it break once. It just seems and that is all I want.
Adam Wood
No thanks, I use Freebsd. ZFS is nice and performance is much better on my T400.
Levi Edwards
eat a dick
Xavier Nelson
This.
Xavier Morales
>that picture You got to be shitting if you think that this is what net neutrality is about All the big companies that clog the Internet with useless garbage like Google, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, Netflix, Wikipedia and whatever other shit I forgot are the ones SUPPORTING net neutrality Those filthy multinational tax-evading scums are centralizing the Internet and convinced the masses that without them there is no Internet They fill the minds of the people with liberal propaganda, misinformation and fake news This is bullshit. We don't need Javascript filled crapsites, we don't need fucking appstores, we don't need bloated webmail and social platforms, we don't need wiki-pedias and other fake news outlets
NET NEUTRALITY IS WHAT ALLOWS THOSE GREEDY BASTARDS TO TAKE OVER THE INTERNET
Fuck net neutrality, I hope with the end of net neutrality the swamp that breeds those leeches will drain and the Internet will become decentralized again
