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LANGUAGE AND LINGUISTICS GENERAL

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What languages do you speak?
Which languages are you learning?
Which languages would you love to learn?


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>Spanish.
>Level one.

HAHAHAHAHA, if the Finnish is simpler than the Spanish!!

I am fluent in Esperanto and I use it in my daily life.

?
That's pretty impressive? In what ways do you use it daily?
Through online usage? Or do you know other speakers irl?

Japanese should be language nerd, Korean should be for casual scum
Any language using 1000+ characters isn't for casuals. That being said
>Speak
German, English
>Learning
Russian, Japanese
>Want to learn
French, Chinese, Finnish

No you are not and you dont

>Vietnamese
>level 3
Its grammar is simpler than English.

I'm only here to complain i dont have a real reason to learn a second language. It would be so much easier to stick with a language if i had a solid reason to learn it.

>That's pretty impressive?
Not really, considering it's much easier than other languages.
I use it IRL at work and with friends.

>let me tell you about your life

>?
Spanish is a very difficult language, we have hundreds of dialects (You must master a greater or lesser extent), the largest in the world vocabulary and verb conjugations completely idiotic, It is so difficult that the natives do not speak it correctly in most cases.

People from all countries say literally the same thing about their language.
>muh language is the hardest in the world
>it's so difficult even natives don't speak it properly durr

Speak
Japanese
Learning
English Polish

>Speak:
Italian, English, Russian and some Ukrainian
>Learning:
None atm, tried to learn French once but meh
>Would learn:
Icelandic, German or Finnish. Japanese would be cool aswell but who cares

How are you finding Russian as a native German speaker? I assume the cases aren't too hard for you, but iirc, Russian uses some cases German doesn't.
I know most English speakers struggle with cases at first, I've always wondered if it's easy for you to move from one language with cases to another.
I suppose language learning isn't for everyone. Personally I do it because I love it, I find it really fun.
I didn't mean impressive in terms of it being hard to use, but I meant that I finding usage for it IRL was impressive. Most speakers of it I know say they rarely bump into people who speak it fluently.
Each language has their own complexities. Most people tend to believe Spanish is quite easy to learn. Especially for other indo-european speakers.

Why Polish? That's an interesting pick
What was the motivation behind it?

I assume you have Russian family? Or was there another reason you learned Russian?

The full Spanish dictionary consists of 18 volumes of 1,500 pages each volume... Spanish is a macro language, have guarani terms mesoamerican words also Filipino words, It is not so easy to talk properly, for example can not communicate with vulgar level with Chileans i don´t understand them and they do not understand me, most foreigners learn Spanish upper class is more complex, but more unified.

In contrast, it has pretty easy pronunciation.

Put faroese in the chart

True.

Yeah, most of my family members are Russian. They communicate with me through Russian so thats the main reason i still speak it. Otherwise i would just have forgotten it

>consists of 18 volumes of 1,500 pages each volume
This tends to be the case with languages which have a huge literary presence. Same with French and English. But knowing a language doesn't mean knowing every single word in those 15 volumes.
>have guarani terms mesoamerican words also Filipino words
Lots of languages with colonial pasts have codified lexemes from their colonies. But rarely are these terms used
>vulgar level with Chileans i don´t understand them and they do not understand me
Spanish isn't the only language with dialects, heaps of languages have this.
Where would you place it?
I suppose the chart wasn't made just for complexity of the language, but also rarity.
For example, Toki Pona is at the bottom of the chart, and is the simplest language out of all of them
t. Toki Pona speaker

At first I heard that there're not many interpriter of japanese-russian in a class,
and I became interested in slavic languages,
finally Poland is the most interesting for me so I'd take it.

Hardcore

mi wile unpa e sina

Is it hard? I'd imagine that the consonant clusters would be very hard for a Japanese person to pronounce
seems quite fitting from what I've read about it

I'm learning french after learning that Turkish has tons of french loanwords.It's interestingly weird because some of them are unnecessary or mistranslated.

Considering Spanish on Duolingo because it's only 15 minutes per day and I can certainly spare that time at work for something that would be a valuable use of this.

But them, I seem to be an autist on this because I wonder if it will be any useful at the end. I never liked learning new languages and I can't see myself doing that for "fun".

Any input on Spanish usefulness?

>Slovene, English, German
>learning Korean alphabet (if that counts)
>Welsh, Korean

As a Slovene speaker I have the rudimentary understanding of other Slavic languages as well as Interslavic.

l-lewd
what are some examples of that?
I was surprised to learn the number of Turkish loanwords in Croatian. Some really random ones. Like "Džep", which means "Pocket"
I started learning Spanish on duolingo. I really enjoyed it, but once I established the basics from Duolingo, I moved onto my own learning through other tools
I wonder what the usefulness of it in Cambodia would be. I know Americans would find it useful, but I'd imagine learning some languages around you might be useful, seeming you already know English

Fluent in German (obviously) and basically fluent in English but my pronunciation is shit. Additionally, I can read Latin. Right now, I'm not learning any other languages and have no precise plans to do so in the near future but I want to learn a Scandinavian language and Chinese when I have the time.

Hi Cambodian friend :^)

Spanish is mostly useful if you went to Latin America or Iberia.

It really isn't that hard, although I still don't know all the cases by heart yet
The main difference between German and Russian cases is that in German most of the time just the article changes, while in Russian you change the word ending/add a case ending

Absolutely. Cases are new to me and consonant clusters such as wj- ws- zd- are hard to say and hear.
In addition, many consonants that appear in the end of words change with cases.
Some poles told me japanese has palatalized sounds so it's easy for me but some sounds like kie- pie- wie- are unusual sounds in japanese, it's still tough.

You can't really learn it unless you know someone/live on the islands. There's nothing online and maybe a total of one book at a library in denmark

Have you checked the pile? Surely there must be some books for it there.
Are you finding it harder to learn than English was for you?
What was your motivation for Russian?

Shitposting on 2ch, almost the same as the motivation I had for learning English, the qts are a nice plus
What languages do you speak/learn/want to learn?

If you come to America, you will know what's inside an empanada before you buy it.

In terms of grammar, I'd say Polish is harder than English for me.
I can't tell you in detail because I'm just a beginner but I feel English is less troublesome for beginner.

>What languages do you speak?
English, German

>Which languages are you learning?
Russian, French,Northern Plains Cree

>Which languages would you love to learn?
Northern Plains Cree, Farsi, Hindi/Urdu, Mandarin

I only speak English, and I suppose Toki Pona, if that counts.

but I'm actively learning:
Croatian
Spanish

I used to study:
Japanese, but stopped after 5 years

As for the languages I want to learn, I don't know where the list ends.
I'd love to know Vietnamese, and finish Japanese.
A Scandinavian language like Swedish or Norwegian would be nice.
I'd also learn Arabic if it wasn't such bullshit with their dialects and lack of standard
>inb4 Egyptian Arabic is standard
It is, but something like Levant Arabic would probably be more useful for me

Speak French and English
Learning Russian personally (on pause) and German at uni.

Don't the flag I'm a baguette

also to add on

>Which languages would you love to learn?
Norwegian, and Icelandic for shits and giggles.
Don't worry, I know it's pointless

warum hast du deutsch gelernt?

As for languages I'd love to know/learn

Finnish, Latin, Old Greek and Gaelic

>Northern Plains Cree
wew lad. How are you going about learning that? Are you a first nations person? Or just a whitey who is learning the language for the meme value?

>I know it's pointless
It's okay, this is /lang/. We don't judge.

can't remember any right now but bunch of driving stuff

My native languages are Igbo and Võro, I am fluent in Dhivehi, Salar, Aymara, Mirandese and Haida. I am conversational in Crimean Tatar, Goa'uld, Lezgian, Wenzhounese and Lower Sorbian, and I'm learning Xhosa, Maltese, Nahuatl, Mwerlap and Yapese.

WE WUZ Arabian is a meme
Why Croatian?
Also I'm always here if you decide to learn Japanese again

>What languages do you speak?
English
>Which languages are you learning?
French
>Which languages would you love to learn?
Italian, Polish, Portuguese

The Romance ones cause they seem cool and I like their countries. Polish because it's one of the few Slav ones that doesn't require learning Cyrillic but still maintains a presence that makes it useful, I suppose.

What languages do you speak?
Australian
Which languages are you learning?
Greek
Which languages would you love to learn?
Koine Greek, Turkish.

...

I forgot to mention I studied Warlpiri, but I forgot most of it after beginning to learn Pitjantjatjara.

>Why Croatian?
My parents were both born there. And most of my family speaks it, except me and a few of my siblings.
It's pretty tough, I just don't dedicate enough time to it. And there are far fewer resources for it than something like Spanish or German
>Also I'm always here if you decide to learn Japanese again
Cheers, how good is your Japanese? Do you ever post in the general? I do from time to time.
Greek diaspora?
3bh cyrillic isn't that hard to learn. I learned it overnight.

Literally just started a few days ago
Going to the olympics is my motivation desu

Nope aussie, just interested in that part of the world.

Es ist keine schwere Sprache wie Russisch und nicht als einfach wie Französisch. Wenn ich Deutsch lernen, kann Ich leichter Französisch und Russich lernen

I'm Cree Native yeah. I'm learning it so I can speak to my Nohkom and Mosom in cree rather than English. pass on the traditions and such from our ancestors
>muh heritage

plus it could be a secret language no one knows when I speak :^)

Objectively, what's the best language to learn?
I'll have too much free time this semester and i might take a language course
I'm not planning on going to another country or have friends from other countries, so i have an inclination fire one language or the other

>So I don't have an inclination for*

No best language senpai.

I can advocate for my native French and its great litterature, philosophy and films.

1. Polish, English
2. Japanese (cause there were some ultra cheap workshops available in my city recently)
3. German, Russian, Norwegian, Latin, Sanskrit and Finnish
maybe Lojban, Interslavic, Czech, Croatian, Old English, Old Norse, Ancient Greek, Korean, Greenlandic, Ojibwe or some other North American, or Faroese

What's your motivation to learn non languages?

one that instantly qualifies you for a job maybe?

>I suppose language learning isn't for everyone. Personally I do it because I love it, I find it really fun.

The thing is i do enjoy it but because i dont have a solid reason i flutter between languages whenever a new language grabs my interest.

>English Polish
You mean the kind of English spoken by Polish plumbers and bydlo abroad?
Or the kind of Polish spoken by Polish plumbers and bydlo abroad?

>litterature, philosophy and films.
Well, maybe I didn't elaborate, for me these kind of things make a language better, along with number of speakers and what says

>Polish because it's one of the few Slav ones that doesn't require learning Cyrillic but still maintains a presence that makes it useful, I suppose.

Cyrillic is piss easy. You'll be comfortable reading Cyrillic within a week.

The thing is that of our litterature is fairly accurately translated though. It's however impossible to dub Louis de Funès and something like that.

French is a must-have for a job in France, nobody wants to speak English here.

Mandarin. China is one of Mexicos biggest trade partners.

Good luck, then, my red friend :^)

>doesn't require learning Cyrillic
The fuckery of our grammar will make Japanese and Chinese writing systems seam piss easy to learn for you.
Really, why does Polish even still exists? It's like Ithkuil. Nobody speaks it cause nobody can comprehend it. Even natives struggle to use it.

This one is interesting but takes its time to learn, aprox 3 years of hard studying (speaking, reading and writing)+ it's expensive
I think I'll take the easy way and go for french

What other language has places like this sjp.pwn.pl/poradnia uni.wroc.pl/usługi/poradnie-szkoły-laboratoria/poradnia-językowa poradnia-jezykowa.uni.lodz.pl/ poradniajezykowa.us.edu.pl/ where native speakers ask experts and linguists how to use their own language?

>What languages do you speak?
Nor,Swe,Dan,Eng,Ger,Rus
>Which languages are you learning?
Ger,Rus,Spa
>Which languages would you love to learn?
Ice,Man,Yid

these*

japanese is nerd level to western people because the it is so unlike western languages. it is pretty similar to my native language so it is easier for me to learn it than arabic or swahili.

>where native speakers ask experts and linguists how to use their own language?
most countries have it

Any recommended French resources lads? I did a bit of duolingo and memrise for french last year then quit but I want to pick it back up again.

any kazakh or krgyz posters here that can answer my question?Are kazakh and krgyz is like azeri and turkish?like almost similar with minor differences? i want to learn another turkic language and might as well get the most comprehension between all of them

>finnish
Don't bother, everyone will always be able to tell it's not your first language and foreigners speaking finnish makes my ears bleed.

Same with German. If you haven't learned it as a child you'll ALWAYS sound like a retard so please don't even try. Even intelligent people who have lived here for more than 20 years and know all the grammar rules will always sound dumber than the average German.

Ah, sorry I mean just I've learnt English and Polish

The average German is an Arabic monolingual.

>i flutter between languages whenever a new language grabs my interest.
iktfb
I wouldn't mind learning Interslavic, but it looks like such a meme
If you're looking for one to help with work, let me know what kind of work you do, or hope to do. That may effect it.

>yiddish
how come?
I spoke to a Finnish friend about this once and he told me that he's never met a foreigner who can speak the language. He said there are people who have lived there for 20 years and still fuck up the cases sometimes.
daily reminder the most learned language on duolingo in sweden is swedish

Even I speak English foreigeners cringe and see I'm French saying "Au revoir" or "A bientôt"
Plus I can barely understand Irish people talking

You cunts realise this is how you sound to native english speakers?

Don't worry. I'm a native English speaker (Australian English), and I struggle with some Irish accents.

I'm studying electrical engineering, might specialize in power electronics

You already seem to have a strong grasp on English, so I would suggest either Japanese or Mandarin.
As you already said tho, they're both quite hard. And would require more time than what you have put into English

Scandi English is so distinct and popular it might be another dialect

So many Swedes are able to speak continously in English, I read fluently but always struggle to find words

I'll probably go back to mandarin one day (studied half a year), true, spoken is shit but it's still an interesting language

>>yiddish
>how come?
I knew someone would react.
I already know some german, and it sounds horribly funny

English speakers
>What a wonderful accent this man has. I wonder what country he's from. Obviously he's intelligent to be able to speak English so well, despite the strong accent.

Other Europeans:
>fucking foreigners don't even try to speak our language

Fair enough
How much intelligebility is there between Yiddish and German?
Could a native German speaker understand more than 75% of spoken Yiddish?
I would love to try learn Mandarin, but I've already started with Vietnamese, so I may stay with that

I really don't mind people trying to speak French though. Always makes me want to help.

German accent is pretty easy for Frenchies

>the oil jew

>Other Europeans:
That's mostly self-hating anglomaniacs. In most parts of the world, people are delighted when a foreigner speaks their language.

youtube.com/watch?v=Fyd3VMoG3WM
Literally the language of cucks.

kek
I've always had this impression that French people are really snobby when foreigners try speak their language.
I have one regular customer at my work who is French, and I'm always tempted to greet him in French. But I don't want him to think I'm autistic ;___;

Try, he might laugh but he will be positively surprised.

We look snobbish because we always exagerate the negative in a more cynical way than Anglos.

This is Francophobic propaganda made up by the English.