Why are Americans so obsessed with this guy? NN was implemented only in 2015 but shits like the packages like '10$ for facebook, 50$ for netflix' that redditors always post hadn't happened for a long time.
Here, South Korea doesn't have NN as well but we can freely access internet without any limitation. You guys just fell for the silicon valley(+ Hiro since he'll have to pay the bill as well) propaganda.
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In korea, do they not know that americans are literally retarded mongrels?
Hello, South Korean user!
Sorry that so many of us amerifags are so retarded.
I look forward to our Net Neutrality-less future.
Wtf I'm Korean now
>NN was implemented only in 2015
(You)
Nice nitpicking
>"(fake news) is factually correct!"
>"false"
>"that doesn't matter!"
?????????????????
Sup Forums is full of retarded libral redditor cucks. It's not even worth talking about it now anyways because based Pajeet repealed Obama's NN bullshit so with a Republican controlled congress it's finally gonna HAPPENING DAY OF THE ROPE
isn't porn banned?
calm down with the buzzwords
Can you explain what exact parts of my comment was factually incorrect? Thanks.
>my libtard iq is only 45
WE WUZ KANGZ
Jealousy
try actually arguing with real words.
>NN was implemented only in 2015
in law.
ISPs also have adopted the "free and open internet" standard prior to this. NN said the monitoring, modifying and blocking of websites was illegal under Title II specifications.
>but shits like the packages like '10$ for facebook, 50$ for netflix' that redditors always post hadn't happened for a long time.
this has also happened in other countries with cell phone data plans. the reason it hasn't happened yet was common vigilance.
hahahahahahahah
ActiveX
>ActiveX
...?
bingo
and if a adult wears a high school uniform in a porn its considered CP
They retired that this year
update your memes
and the send you to jail and lock you up longer then a murderer and rapist
Reminder that Jueun and Hyunjin are both shit.
>this has also happened in other countries with cell phone data plans. the reason it hasn't happened yet was common vigilance.
Examples from shitty Latin countries drug cartels monopolized entire economy doesn't mean a shit
>portugal
>latino
whatever helps you sleep at night
>this is your brain on r/pol
>with cellphone data plans
so you can't even name a single country where this has happened with cable / fiber / dsl "conventional" internet, only mobile memes
You know I am sort of surprised that no one has tried to murder him yet, people certainly seem to be zealous enough to do it.
Portuguese is a derived Latin language my kid
It is
it's literally just a low effort troll, I'd put money on him not even being from Sup Forums
at what point did Sup Forums collectively forget what a troll was and take everything at face value?
>anything i don't like is a meme
>durr what's wifi tethering? what are wifi hotspots
>before net neutrality
>no issues
>net neutrality becomes a law
>nothing changes
>gets repealed
>THE INTERNET IS ABOUT TO END
>getting uncapped phone data for a specific data intensive service
>bad for consumer's now
lmao
>i want data hoggers protected by federal law
>reddit spacing
6 months ago when you first came here
It's more that Sup Forumschildren have become so ridiculous that it's no longer possible to parody them without seeming unironic.
>I wasn't using the Internet for anything other than flash games before 2015
Cellular internet has always been more restricted and squeezed for cash than other forms of Internet, pretending that's not true "because I can tether" doesn't change shit. Nobody would accept a 4GB data cap on their home internet but it's the norm for cellular data. You're comparing apples to oranges.
>not even understanding the meme
reddit spacing is when you add a double line break to every line
like this
for no reason
because on reddit double breaks are needed for a single break for some stupid reason
basic paragraph usage is not reddit spacing you fucking mouthbreathing doublenigger
>Nobody would accept a 4GB data cap on their home internet but it's the norm for cellular data
unlimited data exists, just so you're aware
>it's the norm for cellular data.
Because there is even more limited back haul to each cell tower
each tower can only handle a certain amount of users and bandwith. now add in the fact that people can roam into that tower at any time of the day
Regardless of NN, South Korea sucks. Everything is illegal there. And it's such a small country that they can actually go after you. So you're not really gonna convince anyone.
you seem to now an awful lot about reddit friendo
also
>paragraph usage
i was never of the understanding that one sentence is a paragraph. go home school boy :^)
>basic paragraph usage is not reddit spacing you fucking mouthbreathing doublenigger
>one sentence = paragraph
(You)
>live in australia
>pay $89 including tax for GS8 with 10gb data and unmetered spotify and google play music
>americans want to not allow companies the ability to offer free shit on specific services
lmao
And? That doesn't mean limited caps aren't literally the norm for mobile data. Unlimited plans don't exist in Canada fyi.
I agree, and I don't dispute a word you said. You're supporting me in the fact that cellular data is not directly comparable to broadband.
So do you actually have anything to add to the discussion or are you just Sup Forumsermin sperging about DAH ROODIT BOODGEYMAN
Such as?
>Unlimited plans don't exist in Canada fyi.
we're not talking about canada though LMAO
>So do you actually have anything to add to the discussion or are you just Sup Forumsermin sperging about DAH ROODIT BOODGEYMAN
>"WAAAH STOP CORRECTING ME"
what if i have tidal/deezer?
apps.fcc.gov
In 2005 the FCC had the Net neutrality rules.
libcucks should be chemically castrated tbqh
Reminder that koreans are the hookers of east Asia.
>what if i have tidal/deezer?>>
Then you freely stream all you want out of your data allowance
they're not restricting you, they just picked the most popular services to offer
sperging about grammar isn't "correcting" someone, it's a red herring for when you know you're losing
good game kiddo, no re
>Not being able to argue back
>REEE YOUR COUNTRY SUCKS UPVOTE ME SO PEOPLE CAN SEE THIS WHEN THEY GOOGLE SHITHOLE
>p-presentation d-doesn't matter
you are literally the kid who half-assed his science fair project the night before
>pay USD $60 for unlimited data vs paying USD $68 for **10GB**
man i wonder what i would pay for
>presentation doesn't matter
You're arguing about the internet on Sup Forums you dumb nigger, no it fucking doesn't matter
I could write every single post through an upside down text generator and you would still be wrong
back to r/t_d you go
>not able to actually argue
>just insult koreans
>get called on it
>REDDIT! REDDIT! MOM SOMEONE DISAGREES WITH ME! THEY MUST BE FROM REDDIT! MOM HELP ME!
Do you have a choice of multiple providers for your house in SK?
but the US government is way less democratic than any drug cartel, you have to prove you're hard and loyal to get to the top in drug cartels, in the US government if you have money you can bribe the government (so-called lobbying) to make any policy you want
Ever wondered why Silicon Valley is in the US and not South Korea?
>just insult koreans
i didn't even insult you lmao, it was more about you having reddit threads saved.
>no it fucking doesn't matter
except it does
>>before net neutrality
>>no issues
NN was more or less an unspoken rule. It wasnt until ATT/Comcast/Cox/Timewarner started to bitch about streaming using up more bandwidth than they were willing to provide is when NN became a law.
from 1995 to about 2007, the only major consumer of bandwidth was P2P services, but the amount consumed related to the amount available at a give time was still small.
Now we have people torrenting/usenet/streaming 4K videos, smartphones EVERYFUCKINGWHERE, webpages that are bloated to fuck and back (100+ megs in many cases for a single fucking page) youtube, etc.
ISPs would rather not upgrade their shit and let us continue to use hardware developed for 1990s level shit.
America does have multiple providers everywhere.
>What is satellite internet
>What is ADSL
Well in Manitoba MTS offers "unlimited" but they just throttle your ass if you use too much
point me to the last post you made with an actual argument in it
>implying that's a bad thing
People like to bitch about "oh how will small websites survive being throttled!!!" well maybe it shouldn't take ten scripts and 300MB to load your fucking blog
>i am suddenly incapable of reading, spoonfeed me
(You)
>man i wonder what i would pay for>>
>one gets throttled, the other is 4G all the time
>australian wages are the same as american
>earn $39/hour in retail on sundays
$89 with $0 upfront with the phone is chump change
Because US invented the interne, consumed geniuses from all around the world for a century, and above all, They speak English.
It doesn't have any relevance with NN
It was rhetorical, you never made a single post that contributed anything
It was implemented as law to prevent ISPs from fucking people over, now they have nothing stopping them
>one gets throttled, the other is 4G all the time
literally no place gets 4G all the time but ok
>when you know you're losing and you pull out the "you never made a single point" card but that's ok because you never read your opponent's arguments anyways so you automatically win
im not agruing that small websites designed by a potato, and require half your memory to just load should be saved. the issue is that, if left alone long enough, we will end up with another Ma Bell situation.
ISPs will literally let their infrastructure fall into disrepair for the sole purpose of raising rates. AT&T (ma bell) did this for 50 fucking years.
ahh so little 4g it hurts
It was actually implemented by netflix lobbyists who didn't want to pay for using 70% of Verizon's bandwidth. get ur facts straight friendo.
The funny thing about this NN repeal this time is that Netflix no longer cares.
They are too big to care at this point now and they know that when ISPs adopt a package price system, they (netflix) will be included in the default package
ISP's wont charge consumers they will charge the companies
>pay us more or we prioritize hulu etc
Do you not see the insanity you're trying to propogate? Of course they're not restricting you, but instead incentivizing you to drop Tidal, Deezer, Apple Music, Google Music, Amazon Music, or literally any other music streaming service in favor of Spotify. Just because they're not forcing you to get it doesn't mean they can't make it painful to use anything else.
oof ow ouch my no 4g coverage
> using 70% of Verizon's bandwidth
Yes, consumers used 70% of the bandwidth for Netflix because they wanted to. That isn't going to change if the ISP gets more money. Are you actually a dumb?
he literally just said google music lmao
LOL more painful to use
they're not doing anything you stupid fuck
if you have those services you get free data otherwise
>zoom in
>4g in certain spots
herrrrr
>HOW DARE CONSUMERS WATCH NETFLIX SHOWS
There is no such thing as reason to these people. It's all about the PoLitIcAL PArTYS
I know you faggots are being intentionally retarded and tribalism. There has been numerous occasions where ISP have been caught throttling internet performance .
wccftech.com
That Timeline and this Court was the reason Title II enforce of NN.
en.wikipedia.org
>>Here, South Korea doesn't have NN as well but we can freely access internet without any limitation.
>company runs promo
>owners of x car get a free air freshener
>pick most popular car in america
THEY'RE STIFFING THE REST OF US AND MAKING IT HARD TO DRIVE
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO BUY A DIFFERENT CAR NOW!
I don't understand why people are this stupid. If you're in favor of the free market and you think regulation is bad, why does it matter if it's the government or an ISP is doing the regulating. In either case, competition can't happen.
>literally specs on the map
>"4g coverage everywhere"
>it was the consumer side problem
No you retard it was netflix's distribution end that was the problem. individual users were fine and overall do not make up the majority of profits for isp's it was netflix paying a much lower cost than the consumer for sending out far more data.
Satellite internet (and sub-1mbps DSL, or expensive, throttled mobile internet) is not a comparable product to high-speed broadband internet. They are different classes of product.
Hyundai making their hybrid shitpiles does not pose a competitive threat to John Deere making tractors just because they both have wheels.
Most Americans have one option when it comes to internet access that allows them to perform common internet tasks effectively. Competition within the same class of product does not exist.
False analogy is false analogy. Tune in next week when they tear down the "internet will become channels" straw man.
>ignores bit where i said zoom in
>using 10km scale
>why would telstra put a tower where there is no population
feel free to dispute it, retard.
Good! The end result was breaking up Ma Bell. Give Verizon enough rope to hang themselves. And if they behave? Well that works too.
NN was implemented in 2015 because it was the first time it was required to be implemented. Prior to that, no instance of traffic shaping was substantial enough to raise enough attention to warrant a response. The media companies that comprise or own the major ISPs in the nation did not like the fact that they were losing so much money to people cutting their cable TV subscriptions, and decided that they would try to extort more money out of the customers choosing to do this. Neutrality regulations were instituted because this is clearly fucked. Instead of figuring out how to offer a better product, ISPs poured cash into regulator pockets until they got what they want. Here we are.
70% of the bandwidth they were already paying to use. ISPs don't get to sell bandwidth to people then complain when they use it. If it can't all be used at once, they're over-committing their networks.
but it took FIFTY FUCKING YEARS!
granted, information travels a fuck ton faster today, but even having to wait 15 years is too fucking long.
At this point, ISPs have zero incentive to upgrade their service. the worse the infrastructure gets, the more money they can charge to "upgrade" said infrastructure.
no they tried years and years before that but kept losing the court cases as they don't have the power to tell the ISP's what to do
then they were told by a judge the only way they can enforce anything is if the ISP's were a utility (title 2)
there are heaps of agencies which might set regulations or inform people but can't enforce it, this goes to someone else
Our politicians tend to get more done since they're not dragged around by some weird spiritual leader.
They're not doing anything except having preferences that can harm a user's experience. What if I don't like Spotify? What if they stiffed me and I don't feel like giving them business? It's not "hey, look at the nice freebie!" It's incentivizing the customer to switch from whatever (in this case) music streaming provider to Spotify to provide the same exact services, just so you don't get fucked in the ass by data charges.
Holy fuck you are dumb. Traffic is traffic regardless of where it comes from or where it ends. By this same logic if P2P became too big then consumers should be charged more. Charging more doesn't make the internet faster. What the fuck is wrong with your brain?
>ISPs don't get to sell bandwidth to people then complain when they use it. If it can't all be used at once, they're over-committing their networks
Its akin to an airline company overbooking a plane, and not refunding or comping travelers and telling the stuck travelers,
>welp, not our fault. you all need to not travel to the same place at the same time.
>What if I don't like Spotify?
then use the fucking included data on ANYTHING YOU WANT
Are you fucking dense
they're not increasing data usage on other shit
they're not capping other services
they're not blocking other services
you can stream your own fucking music over your own home server
you're complaining that someone is getting potentially better value