How does the rest of the Hispanic world view Mexico? Do the same stereotypes that Gringos think of apply when, say, an Argentine or Chilean or a Spaniard thinks of Mexico?
Is there any secret inter-hispanic banter you'd like to share? Are there big linguistic or cultural differences?
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All Spanish America and Spain hate each other.
i hate their guts. they make the rest look bad
we see them as the gringos but with a more friendly focus , theres just internet banter and yes there are big cultural and linguistic difference
I just view myself as a member of the Spanish Empire.
They seem to make up excuses to hate us and think of us as an inferior country even though there is not a single Larin American country that has more Mexican migrants on it than Mexico has migrants from these Latin American countries. And the less white a country is the more they tend to call us indios even though we are pretty white.
Spain has very little relation with Mexico surprisingly enough, for us Mexico is the same as for a German, with whom we have deep relationships it is with Colombia, and we hate them.
Some hate us because we "make them look bad", pic related. Some like us because of old Mexican movies, TV shows and dubs (Pedro Infante, Cantinflas, El Chavo del 8, DBZ and Simpsons dub). Most people are indiferent but friendly, although I often sense a lot of banter and dick waving among us.
>this is Mexico is white guy
>he is a proxy
>we make them look bad
Mexico isn't white
you do
Most of the American stereotypes can be applied to Mexico as well, unless you get really specific.
Both are stereotyped as:
>Being obese
>Being rude
>Being obsessed with guns (apart from narcos we have those depictions of charros and shit)
>Being lazy
Likewise some positive stereotypes:
>Being hardworking
>Being extremely happy-go-lucky and optimistic
Una cosa aquí nadie os odia, es más hace poco vino un amigo de México a visitarme y las chicas se sorprendían cuando decía su nacionalidad dado que casi no hay mexicanos y no estamos acostumbrados a interactuar con vosotros, lo de la mala imagen en España se lo tiran encima a los ecuatorianos y colombianos principalmente, así que tranquí, somos colegas.
sort of this
For the most part, you all have the same problems we do if you discount the Southern Cone. And that is only today, because back in the 70's and 80's those countries were in the shitter while we were just medicre, but without all the violence we have now.
t. "white" american.
He notado que desde comienzos del siglo pasado la relación entre los dos países ha mejorado, aunque casi no interactuamos.
Me acordé de los Niños de Morelia, y aunque fue hace mucho tiempo atrás todavía creo que es uno de los mejores ejemplos de la amistad entre las dos poblaciones.
>mexico is white
jesus chrsit man, when will this meme ever die? atlhough it is true mexico has taken in european migrants and that there's a minority of full-blooded caucasians here, doesn't mean we white... no, mixed country...sadly, many shit on us now for the drug dealers...fuck those idiots...
We don't hate Mexico as much as you think. Millions of us travel down to Mexico every year for tourism and pyramids, our teens and college kids go down to Cancun every spring break to partake in a orgy fuck fest, and Tijuana is like a fucking weekend travel event for biker dudes and crazy people looking for a good time and ridiculous sex.
I was surprised to realize that we visit Mexico more times than we do the fucking canucks.
We do have stereotypes that we hate about them though, the massive drugs they pump into this country, the death cults and kidnappings of some murican citizens, and bigoted people who hate them for being illegals. But that's about it.
nonononono, i don't care that you're more developed than us
you do make us look bad, you always had
Mejoro gracias a Internet, hizo que España se acercara a vosotros, al ser un contacto con gente de clase alta no se creo esa mala imagen que tenemos de los colombianos; Que yo estuve en Colombia y México, y personalmente, buena gente ambos.
Actualmente las relaciones están empeorando muchísimo y muy rápidamente con México por la cantidad de criajos que hay soltando memes de mierda contra nosotros en Internet, tanto que hasta las TV ya hacen chistes de ellos, esto esta teniendo dos repercusiones sociales básicamente:
>Nuevo estereotipo, los pesados de Internet.
>La gente se cree que el meme del oro es real.
Todo esto es a nivel popular claro, a nivel politico siguen siendo muy buenas porque vuestros politicos jamás soltaron perlas como las de los de Venezuela o Bolivia sobre el rey, lo que hace que nuestro gobierno se sienta comodo con México, incluso muchas veces recomendo abiertamente invertir en vuestro país e incluso emigrar, supongo que es lo que tiene comportarse correctamente, que te recompensa.
Yes, because if people knew Paraguay instead, we would all be much better represented. Yes.
Looks like a Mexican to me desu. Your people fail to understand you're 100% white or not white.
of course, that goes without saying
>a nivel politico
y económico
sí, es cierto, la rivalidad no va más allá del internet o ciertas competencias deportivas (supongo que en béisbol los venezolanos se pelean con los mexicanos o no sé, no quería decir fútbol directamente)
México y España siempre han tenido buenas relaciones. Especialmente desde que ocurrió su guerra civil y se recivieron refugiados aquí.
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>the drugs
dude, you consume them, if your addicts disappeared those bastards would go bankrupt, but your culture promotes it
>the death cult
dude, that's just folklore
>kidnappings
i give you that
>the illegals
can't defend that part really, it's always been immigration to US after all
Esto hay un user que os insulta en Sup Forums por favor ignorarlo es el que os llama sudacas todo el rato.
Mi abuelo estuvo en mexico, gente humilde, trabajadora y siempre con una sonrisa que es lo más importante, me cae de puta madre la gente de allí, ves que tienen corridas de toros etc... El mejor país que ha dado España, los narigudos de Argentina son unos desagradecidos
La cosa es que las relaciones de España con ciertos países de América latina son jodidamente malas, tanto a nivel popular como político, ahora con Venezuela se siente lastima y no nos cerramos en banda para ayudar, pero; Hubo un momento en el que nadie quería ver un venezolano en pintura, es por eso que veras a muchos españoles que no quieren saber nada de América latina, están muy hartos de que la gente les diga que son unos violadores y unos asesinos (Que no quiero discutir eso porque hay mucho cibervoluntario por aquí), pero en España la cantidad de ecuatorianos con aires revanchistas es exagerada.
¿Bien no? La cosa es que México históricamente también fue un país responsable, aquí en Europa nadie os odia, sienten hasta pena por el tema de los carteles.
Los argentinos son argentinos, son un caso a parte.
All we know is tacos mariachis and maybe acapulco
>imbéciles despotricando por despotricar---GIBS DA HOROS N SHIIIIEEEEETT
A esos imbéciles deberíamos de gasearlos lo más pronto posible, carajo.
>el meme de los oros
¿en serio? kekeke vaya, quién lo hubiera dicho jejeje
La verdad yo he visto muy pocas personas que culpan a los españoles directamente. Si acaso el típico idiota que hablando desde la ignorancia dice cosas como "¿por qué no nos colonizaron los ingleses?", pero incluso estos son cada vez menos. A la mayoría de la gente no le importa, se ve como parte importante de la historia de México, y listo. Yo diría que a la mayoría de gente les gustan España y los españoles, especialmente porque culturalmente se respeta mucho a Europa desde acá.
La mayoría de gente que llega a insultar a España es en internet y por cosas tontas que no trascienden a nada.
Aquí son bien recibidos.
>argentinos desgraciados
>español diciendo semejante cosa
callad hombre, que con eso seguro los invocas y línea interminables de:
sOS nO lo SAVE PERO: fuuiMOS vlankos Y LA MIERRRRDDDAAAAA... SHoooooooooo lo sé
Creo que es importante en estos tiempos entender que a los shitposters de internet no se les debe dar el lujo de representar a un país, o si no pasa lo que compartiste.
Los Argentinos tienen mala reputación aquí por ser shiposters de mierda. /lat/ es puro spam de memes cansados.
>Creo que es importante en estos tiempos entender que a los shitposters de internet no se les debe dar el lujo de representar a un país, o si no pasa lo que compartiste.
Explícaselo a la televisión española, la misma que nos dice que "Dos" es una palabra machista, no a mi.
Top tier country, friendly people and hard workers.. And they have pretty good architecture
They have corridas, rodeó like us in Spain.
>2016
> ser perseguido por un animal
...
Spaniards should take charge over all of Latin America imo, with the natives living in there also having political power, a closed Hispanophone economic sphere.
taco taco el chavo don ramon don ramon
>"Dos es machista"
Jesucristo todo poderoso, eso del feminismo ya ha ido demasiado lejos.
The last time we tried that, we ended up having many war. It was called empire and we dont want that abomination coming back.
I believe only Spaniards can exterminate all the crime and cartels and bring order, because our people there are compliant.
>"Dos" es una palabra machista
No mames, y yo pensé que nostros eramos los más fregados por estar junto a EUA.
It was retarded napoleon revolutions, same thing happened in the USA against Britain, it means nothing in the current day.
some have thought about this for a while, and even though it sounds kind of nice, one can see coming the leftist: HUUURRR DUUURRR the genocide, death to iberians (if they euthanize all our politicians and don't act like douchebag, i wouldn't complain at all).
Europa ya es insalvable, usan la escusa del machismo y el racismo para todo; Cuando la UE se salio de Europa fue una decisión "Fascista y racista" y piensas por un momento ¿Que cojones tiene que ver una decisión burocrática con el racismo? y luego recuerdas que esto es Europa.
Como odio Europa por dios, cuando Rajoy quiso cambiar la hora y poner la que nos corresponde le tacharon de neo-nazi por ello.
back in the days it was like the main colony of Spain, the center of the empire besides the mainland obviously
nowadays i dont know much about it except that it's nature is awesome, and its cuisine (tacos)
More leftism?
Nah senpai we good
>Cuando la UE
Cuando U.K estoy gilipollas.
You can be left out desu senpai.
We cannot stand united. We are not like the anglos that are united and fighting together. Too blood, too much differences. Better how we are.
Was the best spanish speaking colony, New Spain, sadly USA stole mexican territories
There is no left in Mexico, only a couple of idiots who don't know a single thing on political sciences and some hippie bourgeoises that love nature and hate humans as a whole. Both of which are a monority, and non of them care about current Spaniards, even more considering Spain is a fairly liberal society.
I tried to be a good boy for uncle sam
I tried not be like others
BUT YOU MADE ME DO THIS
SHART
IN
MART
Actually, today mexicans are one of the hispanic people that has less relations with us.
As such, yank stereotypes that come from yank media grow strong in Spain. Otherwise they will share stereotypes with other latin americans.
>ese complejo de inferioridad por argentina
Confirmado chicano en España, ¿por qué los mejicanos odian tanto a los argies?
hablá con burros y te van a dar patadas
reply to amerifat and you get shit
>cuando Rajoy quiso cambiar la hora y poner la que nos corresponde le tacharon de neo-nazi por ello
jajajajajajajajaja
santa madre de dios, no puede ser... jajajajajaja
Soy español que dices
Niños en internet desde el mundial del 2006. Al mexicano común no le importa Argentina.
IMHO being USA's neighbors is both the best and worst thing that has ever happened to us.
this as fuck
Only fantasizing dumb fucks have thought about it, there's not a single credible political group or even individual figure that has ever supported this view on Mexico.
Any chance of union with Spain disapeared when they repudiated the 1812 Constitution of Cádiz. It didn't mean loss of love, Mexico tried to save as many refugees from the Spanish Republic as it could in the Civil War and was the sole Latin American nation to firmly stand against Franquismo.
We are a socialist left leaning country, even now that we've matured into an emerging trade power PAN supported universal healthcare, deal with it.
>yank stereotypes that come from yank media grow strong in Spain
not surprising at all, some are true not going to deny it, but those guys simply love make things up
Es verdad hermano
>nationalism means anti socialism
>socialism means anti traditions
I am a traditionalist socialist.
esto
Estás todo el rato hablando de lo bien que nos caen los mejicanos a los españoles cuando casi no hay relación y no caen ni bien ni mal, simplemente no pensamos en ellos, y luego hablando de los argentinos todo el rato aunque no venga a cuento como hacen ellos. Es que cantas muchísimo a chicano.
Ni siquiera me gusta el futbol :)
Pero ami me caen bien, pero es cierto es como Portugal no pesamos mucho en mexico, solo he conocido a un estudiante de intercambio que era mexicano
Déjalo hablar bonito de nosotros no mames.
Que esté diciendo cosas de Argentina está mal pero es obvio que su favoritismo surgió de sus experiencias personales.
Other than universal healthcare I can't think of anything left in this country. Ever since PRI started shifting to neoliberalism in the 70's everything changed, since they used to be the left wing in this country.
Ans Mexico was technically a national socialist country from he time of Obregon to Avila Camacho, let's just say that although we were always left leaning that particular denomination became unfashionable after WWII, however a nationalist socialism has been historically Mexico's mainstream political ideology
Then provide free healthcare, free land, free housing, higher pay to the workers.
Mexicans are pretty relevant and respected in the rest of hispanic America because of their voice dubs and Chavo.
> Do the same stereotypes that Gringos think of apply
I guess the mexicans that go to USA aren't the same that actually live in Mexico so i don't think so.
ya somos dos (automáticamente, algo así como un hereje)
t. american "white" supremacist.
There's literally nothing good about being USA's neighbours, with all tje resources Mexico has even if it was an island it would be much better off in every way. Mexico has a higher resources' richness than fucking Australia.
Una familiar mia estuvo en Mexico varios meses (volvió hace poco) y vió un poco más de rencor hacia los "guachupines" de lo que dice. Fue por zonas rurales del sur sobretodo, parece.
Aunque quizás solo tuvo mala suerte, o se impresionó facilmente con nada y está exagerando.
Biggest spanish speaking country with future, Spain is fucked by german banks
>los narigudos de Argentina
narizones no era?
>la misma que nos dice que "Dos" es una palabra machista
???
Everyody is mixed sempai, "full caucasians" ain't a thing.
Pro
Top tier food,culture and dubs
Con
Shit people
>Is there any secret inter-hispanic banter you'd like to share?
here people think that the only attractive mexican females are the ones in soap operas and the average mexican girl is ugly. dont know if that is true cause never been there
There's labor law and institutions, ejidos are still around, mandatory basic education, free higher education, protections in law against reposesion/eviction for the poor, laws consideration for social circumstances in criminal law, human rights as a constitutional basis which now extends to housing, water, the environment and nutrition, gay marriage, abortion, universal pensions for seniors, unemployment benefits in Mexico city, etc.
Despite the best intentions of a large part of our political classes, big business and mocho conservatives Mexico leans strongly liberal and progressive, sure we do have capitalism, our model is European democratic socialism after all and we do have strong American influence, but an American Democrat would be considered a conservative in Mexico.
>and dubs
>tfw mi hermana mira futbol con mi papá
Puede ser, esas personas existen, no sé a qué grado en las zonas rurales, pero tampoco diría que son la mayoría. Otras personas se ofenden bastante fácil por algunas actitudes que podrían parecer condescendientes y recurren al insulto fácil (gallegos, el horo, el desempleo, etc,), pero pues vamos, la gente enojada rara vez piensa lo que dice. Otra cosa, en definitiva en este país está mejor visto ser un gachupín/gallego que un indio (ser un indio también es un insulto). Por supuesto que yo no comparto ninguna de esas ideologías, pero así son las cosas aquí.
That's just like, your opinion man.
I, for one, like how our current relationship is. Drumpf and the Sup Forumsfags don't speak for the entire US population.
If we all realized we're not at the Mexican-American War anymore, maybe we'd like eachother more. We can create really cool stuff togheter.
Don't delude yourself, you will always have exploitation and slavery, any "Communist" revolution wont change a thing, the only thing you need is to see the profits produced by the production and demand more of it, but this will never happen because your situation is homogeneous to your people.
We do provide free universal healthcare, Mexico gave free land to all peasants from the end of the Mexican revolution until the 1970´s (it was a demand of Zapata) and you can still join an ejido (sort of like an agrarian soviet) if you want land, we've got the infonavit to provide housing for low wage workers.
Higher pay is really the issue isn't it? We are working on lifting minimum wage to a dignified level but in the end we do understand wages are determined by markets, as all emerging nations ours is a problem of balancing living standards with employment.
Mexico en general es la mas "española" de todas las colonias por la arquitectura que tienen y las corridas de toros, mucho mas incluso que Argentina que fue la que mas españoles modernos recibio.
Es mas siempre supuse que las relaciones eran muy buenas.
concuerdo con este user.
That's the problem, for us we are either both European and Native American or neither, no wonder you people think we are our own race
No me extrañaria que se ofendiese simplemente porque algun viejo aleatorio la llamó guachupina y no le gustó el tono, la verdad.
>Spaniards should take charge over all of Latin America
only if the Catholic Kings return, otherwise no. Modern Spain is a debt and NATO cuck meme
I wish we can nuke you
Mexicans are worse than niggers. At least niggers speak English