Trying to find entry level IT Job

>trying to find entry level IT Job
>3-5 years of experience required + Computer Science Degree + must have at least 10 years of experience in X field + must have at least 20 years of experience with *company only software*

What the fuck?

How am I supposed to get a job this way? I live in NYC, there should be plenty of job openings, but the only ones around look exactly like what I typed above.

It's not that I disregard them, I still apply, but it's been almost 3 years and I still can't get out of retail.

Moving out of NYC is not an option. I only have $6k saved up. That's not enough to move/ sustain myself.

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what qualifications do you have?
also
>moving out of NYC is not an option
if you're young this is your best option fyi

you're supposed to get internships through your college, then go to your job fair at school and get hired by people who recruit from your college with job offers being made and accepted before you even graduate.

As far as online listings, they often overstate what employers want for a variety of reasons, whereas university recruiting or referral from prof gets you to the hiring manager instead of HR.

we don't even know if op has a degree. His qualifications could straight up be "I can reset a router lol".

I've completed my degree, however I went to a >community college so they didn't really help us with anything.

Never told us about internships, never told us about job fairs, never informed us of scholarships, special programs for well performing students, nothing.

Went to the offices, they're all ran by Bon-Qui-Qui's and Shaneequa's , so good luck getting any information out of them. Couneslors didn't help much either.

Very surprised I even managed to graduate seeing as the college barely functions.

It's called nepotism bitch. STEM supremacy was a lie by the industry to trash worker wages and it worked

Get a tan and change your name to Pajeet Chakrabarti. For authenticity you should also start eating curry daily, shit in the streets and fill your bathtub with water and then bathe in the same water. NEVER EVER change it!

So you can make $10,000 a year?

If what you're telling me is true, and you didn't much outside your courses, then your degree has a really rocky footing considering you don't have much to show for it.

Keep sending out applications. But also, make sure to mention your ambition to get into the field professionally in every conversation you have. That way you might end up mentioning it to somebody who's looking, or somebody who knows somebody who's looking, or somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody who's looking, etc.
Remember, you just have to get your foot in the door however you can. That's your objective now.
That's how I got into the field professionally. And acquaintance of mine who I hadn't spoken with for a while happened to become friends with one of the top guys at a small software company. One day I randomly happened to have a conversation with my acquaintance, and I mentioned my interest in becoming a programmer (I wasn't doing this on purpose to network, I was actually just really into programming and telling everybody I knew I'd love a job in the field) - and he told his buddy and I got in, despite not having a computers-related degree.

James is that you? Do the names Carlos and Zach ring a bell?

Sorry, just trying to find a long lost friend from 11 years ago.

Sounds like you're looking at the wrong jobs, but it's not exactly unheard of for some doofus to write a job requirement list shooting to the moon.

All you can really do is apply for jobs in a professional manner, and make a stellar CV highlighting any decent experience you have and make your skills clear. Failing that friends and family is a good way into a job.

How the fuck is $6k not enough to move and sustain yourself?

I go to a community college in California, and we literally have a class that is nothing but completing an internship. We even have social mixers, where several professors shill us out to business people whom they trust. Fuck your school.

I use to go to a community college before I transfered we were allowed to go the job fairs for the state universities. Sounds like a bad school.

>I live in NYC
Step 1) Stop living in NYC

Living in NYC gives you a massively distorted view of the rest of the world.

That shits a bitch. Just about the same situation.

Only advice I can think of is to try that social networking bullshit. Try looking around indeed or on sites like craigslist or reddit for IT stuff or networking events then mingle like a used car salesman. I am anti social as fuck so I haven't had much luck.


I do have a fair bit of cash save up due to being a no life shut in. I wonder if I could bribe my way to getting hired. Anyone have any idea if that would work?

>"Entry level IT"
What do you mean by that? You want to be a lazy fuck and get a big paycheck? Or you looking to break into a competitive industry and change your career path?

>loved computers since I was a child
>wanted to be an EE since I was like 11
>went through school, noticed a ton of people there just because they wanted to get rich
>all the social chads went out and got all the entry level jobs
>I can't get anything because I'm shy, even though I have better grades and projects
It was all a scam to drive down the wages of the good engineers. STEM was a scam and a meme, it's what I've always been passionate about and I can't do it because of all this fucking bullshit.

No. The reason you aren't getting hired is because you are being lazy. Doesn't matter if you have current employment, what are you doing right now to change that? How does your LinkedIn look, many like using it so you need to be using it too. And it needs to be up to par, then you spend time on a million other things. Start a tech blog with a wordpress site and make 1 post per week about what you are learning and/or building. Put that web site on your linkedin. Build an app and put it up on the store, then put that on your linkedin/resume. You need to start moving your ass if you want to succeed.

>graduated with a CpE degree and had one software development internship
>mediocre grades but interesting side projects
>applied to over 100 places
>had a dozen interviews (mixture of phone, web, inperson)
>no offers
wtf am i doing wrong? i can talk normally to people (even though i don't like it), my body language is open and expressive, i dress well and groom myself before the interview. I literally cant get a siftware job to save my life.

get an internship nigger.

Have no degrees, only have CCNA. I make 120k a year designing networks.

All depends on who you know and if you can prove what you know.

Weird.. no degree here no certs, 21 yrs old. Had a networking job making 35/hr as a contractor. Contract ended went to a boring helpdesk job at 25/hr.

How are you comp sci nerds so bad at finding a job?

My community college has a job fair but I didn't go to it because I had other classes. Are those important? Why didn't you transfer to a 4 year school?

You're pretty much fucked now, OP.

$10,000 > $0.00

Come on, even the pajeets know this.

I want a job that pays a lot of money for minimal work.

Maybe it's a race thing. Failing that, a gender thing.

I literally laughed aloud when I read that

What OP really means by that is "I'm not willing to move at all and I'm also not willing to take any job that pays less than 80k a year despite having no experience." Entitled faggots like him everywhere you turn in NYC

prob cause ya dumbass cant spell software ayyy lmao

Good luck.

kikes

testing

I wish I could just win the lottery or something. I want to be a neet forever. I like getting up at 11am. I like jacking off whenever. I like playing video games all day. Fuuuuuck I wish I was rich.

Well good luck, because you need it.

I'd advise that you go into sales, this "fake it until you make it" shit is not going to fly with tech companies in IT who pay decent amounts of money (as in 6 figures +)

I personally rejected tons of people who only came for the money but didn't have the skills to match their paychecks, most didn't even make it past the interview.

Either you get good, or get out.
There is little in between.

Being financially free would be awesome. I don't know bud, I don't really sympathize with you. If you aren't willing to do what it takes to get something you want, then wanting it is irrational. The only explanation is that you don't realize what it takes or you're holding on out of greed.

I believe you have accepted just as many people who were in it for the money. They just hid their motivations well enough, or had good enough skills to make themselves appear sufficiently useful.

>Either you get good, or get out.
Tell that to 50% percent of the IT workforce. You get shitters working in top corporations who can't even do their job right.

Those requirements aren't real. The company sets them up so when no one applies they can get approval to sponsor Indians to come over and do it for slave wages.

If you actually know what you're doing just bullshit your resume, if you don't get the job you're back here nothing lost, if you do and keep the job you're golden, if you do and fuck up they'll fire you and you'll be back here, nothing lost.
Unless you destroy their infrastructure or endanger lives you're not going to be charged with fraud so just go for it.

jersey has tons of entry level tech jobs, especially within smaller companies

Depending on where you are in nyc and how far the job is from the city, you could technically commute outwards.

Or realistically you're not in a great position anyway. Move out, do your time, and come back when you can compete for good jobs in the city.

Of course you aren't going to sympathise with a lazy person. I know that and understand that. I was just venting. I coasted through school and got good grades because I was naturally talented. After that, I just sort of gave up on life. I need to get back in the mood to succeed. The only time I see flashes of my old self are when it's for something I want. I drew up a ridiculous budget for myself just so I could get a decent computer on retail salary. I learned how to crack and mod games just because I wanted to play them. I'd probably get into organisied e-crime if I had an opening, since I enjoy the thrill of that sort of thing. Sorry, I'm babbling. Not OP.

What if you make a "fake" software company website then give yourself the title of software developer/engineer? Would the places you apply to be able to tell?

go for the help desk call center jobs, start there. I did that for about two years, then moved onto desktop support.

>Living in NYC gives you a massively distorted view of the rest of the world.
THIS

>not willing to take any job that pays less than 80k a year
I wouldn't want to earn less living in NYC.

Other than that 6k$ would me get through half a year easily and through a year at least if i tried a bit harder.

also look for contractor companies for contract IT jobs. They will help you get a job, its low pay shit, but its a foot inside the door

This

Yes, but what's the point of even putting a company on your resume if it hasn't done anything? Do you think lawyers still put "I worked at McDonald's" on their summer when they apply to high powered jobs?

Yeah but if you want It, you need to work in a city. You ain't getting an IT job in rural Kentucky, cheap living costs or not. There's a reason IT jobs have reasonable salaries. It's because of the economices of scale created in the economic spheres of cities. High pay is balanced by high living expenses, such that your disposable income is equal to a chucklefuck changing tires in a mechanic's garage in the boonies.

>not getting an IT job in a comfy, reasonably sized city

Let me guess. Denver?

>just network bro and you'll be fine

>Just been yourself bro

FUCKING HOW

Too big for my taste, but that's acceptable. I certainly don't want to live in some shithole like NYC or San Francisco.

Because basically it's the Computer science virgins vs the IT Chads.

I'd make a pic to show you I was in my laptop. You guys have an easier time getting hired. We actually have to do shit in order to prove we can work. You guys just go hey I made a certificate from... HIRED!

You can easily get by on 40-60k given you aren't a total moron, aren't drowning in debt, or want to live in jewhattan. That's the problem there's too many idiots that want all the prestige and image of living in NYC without having actually earned it or having the money to do so. It's also why you have to make 100k to live in manhattan if you don't want roommates or live in some nigger or chink shithole

Just keep looking and applying use the best job boards uploaded a decent creative CV . Unemployment is really quite low so there aren't that many candidate around.

Fare well.

just press correct keys on a computer and you will get that job and become rich too

Supply and demand you cunt.

There is too much people, not enough jobs.
So the price for jobs is getting higher.

Deal with it.

Someone who lives in Denver. The city is incredibly expensive their isn't anything affordable about this place. The rent and housing prices are incredibly high. The infrastructure is also terrible and cell service is complete trash. You have to pay a shitload for car insurance because of marijuana Don't move here. If anyone calls this place an affordable mid sized city they have no clue what they're talking about.

Its all bullshit, my company posts ads like that and regularly hire no education, experience, idots.

If is MSP work its most likely pretty high turn over so keep applying to places all the time

Period.

They can always find serving for you to do.

Not American, but I have a bachelor's degree and have been trying to find an entry level IT job without much success. It's not that the job requirements are outrageous, but there's just too much competition due to high unemployment.

I live in South Denver (Littleton/Highlands Ranch area). Can confirm.

I was born and raised here, and I want to remain here. Everyone needs to fuck off for driving up housing costs reeeeee

Yeah it's the same here. Even the lowest of low support jobs have loads of "overqualified" applicants. Also what makes this even shittier is that i've noticed a worrying trend. All these companies list all of their jobs as entry level and then they pick overqualified people and make them do non entry level shit for entry level salary.

It's fucked up.

I lucked out and got a high responsibility position before even finishing my bachelor. Now I'm just waiting for the years of experience to rack up for resume padding.

>I was born and raised here, and I want to remain here.
Me too. It's really pissing me off. I though they'd go away after more states legalized marjuna.

>be an employer
>have an ENTRY-LEVEL position
>job requires an IQ of about 70 or above
>job requires BARE MINIMUM of skill
>hmm...
>"Job Ad: Entry level position. Fresh grads accepted!"
>fresh grads apply
>fresh grads have sub-70 IQ
>fresh grads do not have BARE MINIMUM of skill
>hmm... maybe if we increase the required qualifications...
>"Job Ad: Entry level position. 2 years experience required"
>2 years of experience... many still have sub-70 IQ
>many STILL do not have the bare minimum of skill
>those with the magical combination of 70+ IQ and bare minimum of skill... are already employed elsewhere and not currently looking to change
>hmm... maybe if we increase the required qualifications...
>"Job Ad: 3-5 years of experience required + Computer Science Degree + must have at least 10 years of experience in X field"

>can't find intelligent experienced people to work for minwage shithours
>hmm must be everyone else's fault, better require even more experienced people, surely they will want to be back at entry level

I want to employ fresh grads, I really do! And everyone who is not a total moron would also prefer to employ fresh grads for entry level positions because:

1- They are cheaper
2- They (probably) have not picked up and bad habits, and as such will fit perfectly into any company's culture
3- In 2-3 years, they will be promoted to higher positions, with raised salaries... but still cheaper than hiring new folk
4- If they stick around for 3-5 years, they will be the best employees you have, since they will know the company's methods inside out

Why would I not want to hire fresh grads? Why would I put "requires 25 years of experience in Android Piehole"?

...because 99% of fresh grads did nothing but party in school, have zero skills, and cannot get work done. What is the point of hiring anyone, even for $1/hour, if they are not going to get work done?

if anything it's the other way around.

I know plenty of people who did CS at run-of-the-mill state schools, did an internship and a couple shitty little java projects, and got picked up for 70k+ jobs. Also, they are retarded and not very knowledgeable about actual CS (their program should've been called Software Engineering or maybe even Java Plumbing). CS degree is overhyped like all hell in HR, at least for now.

Apply anyway. It doesn't matter. Short of importing some Indian who fakes those credentials they're not going to find someone like that, they're just reaching. Show that you're ambitious, apply anyway. Tell them outright that you can do the job. Make sure you can back it up with some code examples. When you get an interview just be polite and answer honestly.

He's not after a high powered job. He's still in retail, which means he needs to get his foot in the door. Besides, any software related position looks better than retail. Also, your analogy doesn't make sense. It wouldn't be like a laywer putting McDonald's on his resume. It would be more like him putting a small law firm on his resume.

My problem with networking is that I've found contacts/successful people to express my enthusiasm with who I COULD possibly get a job through, but I haven't pursued it because despite being highly competent in their fields, they are super liberal and politically crazy and I don't want to talk to them about anything but math/CS

if I ever find a normal acquaintance with potential I will network proper

I hate being a meme state. Fuck offffff.

reminder if you don't have friends or family giving you a job

Why not ignore politics? You are going to be working in a professional environment, not a TV show.

So they want really loyal people but you need them to be cheap? They want to hire people with no bad habits but the problem is that they don't seem to have any good habits? They want to mold inexperienced people to fit the company but the issue is that they have little experience and molding is hard?
Perhaps only hiring people though "connections" is more likely to net you a very social partyfag Pajeet Norman type guy than a someone who decided to practice their art instead of fucking around?

This is what I said:
>Fresh grads would be great hires for a lot of reasons, but they need to be able to do the job

Somehow, you read something completely different. Try rereading. Or if my earlier post was too complex, read what I just wrote above.

So you actually don't want new grads at all but you still want to pay hires at entry level. What an insight into HR.
thanks for the usual
>did u even reed my post r u dum
you really followed the point

>I want to hire fresh grads, for so many reasons!
>Haha! So you actually don't want new grads at all!

experienced people are hard to find at entry level :( even though my "reasons" and needs are incompatible :( if only the world was more perfect :((((

It's exactly like that. There are so many people available that they can choose experienced people to work for entry level wages.

OMG! Requiring "bare minimum" of skill? Really? All I did was party for 4 years in school, and now I have to, like, have some "skill"? OMG! Why cannot you just hire me without having any skill?!?!?!!!!!??????

actually my school is on the same boat as you. ran by sjw white girls and ajits. i had to find myself to the internship programs because none were advertised.

somehow i managed to get out okay: 21, proj manager, 80k

>Never told us about internships, never told us about job fairs, never informed us of scholarships, special programs for well performing students, nothing.
What? I'm a community college graduate too, but you can't blame your school for not finding a better job. You're supposed to seek out that information yourself on bulletin boards, newsletters, emails, my school had all that stuff. You gotta take it more seriously.

I'm still working my high school job and I had a very disappointing interview a few days ago but that's life. I know it sucks but you have to keep trying.

My community college had required coops/internships

Drop the school requirements if you want people who have an IQ and experience. You're trying to hire from a pool of people who put themselves into debt for a deprecated education model and haven't experienced entry level even though they're in their 20s. You should be going for the people who had the good sense to entered the industry at 16 and never put themselves into a bad situation like college.

Over here in backwards-land, school is free.

Oh that's amazing. What holy Land do you hail from? Canada?

independent.co.uk/student/study-abroad/free-university-education-courses-study-abroad-brexit-erasmus-students-germany-copenhagen-france-a7457576.html

Many countries have free education, apparently. You would think that these students are very lucky, and will graduate with skills that they can learn for free... Sadly, you can only lead a horse to water.

Pretty much this. This is similar to how I got my job.

Everyone says this but I worked my ass off in school, never partied, have a good portfolio and an 85% and haven't gotten a call back in 2 years in Canada. I think it's because I'm white at this point.

Oh please don't lie on your CV folks I mean creative like friendly well designed still entails all relevant facts summarised well.

I've never lied on a CV and only failed a couple of interviews both for crap jobs possibly.... One I should never have been a candidate for. The other was rackspace no clue what happened there .

This

So like, ask them for their grades. Any school can give a certified copy.

Did you not get an internship? I'm also in Canada and 8/10 times a graduate get a job if they had an internship

I went to university later in life and graduated with a physics degree at 28. I got a job as a software developer within a few months with next to zero programming/computer science experience, because the position offered 6 months of on-the-job training. If someone as 'old' as I was when I started managed to find a position, especially with no experience at all, don't give up OP. We're all gonna make it. Have you considered contributing to open source projects? I know we've hired people where that's been a deciding factor

"be yourself" only works if you're a normie

The Canadian job market is actually retarded. It took me six months after graduating with 16 months of internship experience to find a job. 6 months after 5 years of 50 hour weeks as an engineering student.

Your problem for trying to get a job with an associates degree