/tpg/ - ThinkPad general

Old Thread: If you're looking for purchase advice, state your budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™
>Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

Recommended IBM models:
X60, X61, T60, T61, 860, Transnote, PC110

Recommended modern models:
X220 - 12", 768p, cheap and light
T420 - 14", 900p, widely available, socketed CPU, Ivy Bridge installable w/ Coreboot
W520 - 15", 1080p, Desktop Replacement, 32GB RAM on quadcore models, USB 3.0
T440p, T540p, W540 - last ThinkPads to have replaceable CPUs, IPS displays available, chiclet
P series - reminiscent to old build quality, top-of-the-line specs, better than most current mobile workstations, but very expensive

Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop
>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain
>The best TrackPoint, great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support

Used laptop guides by xsauc:
dankpads.com

ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads & running GNU/Linux on them:
thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki

ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
lenovoservicetraining.com/

EPP discount for new ThinkPads:
pastebin.com/JVwVGVTW (embed) (embed)

BIOS logo booru:
biosimage.booru.org/

Other urls found in this thread:

ebay.com/itm/112402385484
forums.lenovo.com/t5/forums/v3_1/forumtopicpage/board-id/tp01_en/page/1/thread-id/121207
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

requesting a bios image of my trapfu

What an ugly man

no buli

You have shit taste in anime

no u

>ywn be able to buy a computer with that form factor, but with modern specs

Does t440 = t440p as far as the replaceable CPU?

What are the major differences between t440 and t440p?

he's right, you have some shit taste.

everything, google it

the t440p is bretty gud but the t440 is a piece of shit, the p changes everything

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X201 51nb mod

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X70?

I recently broke my laptop in university. I collect rocks, and one fell off my shelf, and hit my laptop keyboard. Its broken now.

Anyway, Ive had my eye on thinkpads for some time now. I want to get a workstation, the weight of it dont make me no difference, and bulky laptops are more attractive to me, as well as more comfortable to hold and travel.

Ill be using mine for Sup Forums, adobe software, like photoshop, illustrate, and after effects. Use it for matlab in my phys course and MS office as well. And an sperg dream of mine, is to learn blender, so I can make porn.

I like the P50's, and I've seen some with M1000m GPU's (I think), and intel i7 6th gen which seem pretty good. They're in my price range of 700-1000 pounds. or about below 1300 dollars.

What laptop model would you guys recommend?

>I collect rocks
go away Hank

who else here /quad core t420/

okay maybe i'm glad i got an x220 over an x230, since my chink battery is fucking great. Sanyo battery cells

not me. battery life is more important

Quadcore W520 + T60p

hur dur minerals

anyone bought the chink replacement top covers?

my thinkpad is trashed so i'm willing to spend some money to make it nice again

what processor does yours have? I have a dual core i7 in my t520 and the battery life is still shite

because all laptops run at 100% cpu on every moment right

you can have an eGPU setup though.

any cheap reccomendation? also would that allow me to do high level gaming?
yes i am a newfag

How do you like the quad-core w520?Thinking of picking one up.

With how much % wear and what OS?

Any 8GB RAM + 1080p budget ChinkPads? I'm currently looking for one, I love my T420 and all but I just want a 1080p display. Upgradeable RAM and caddy would both be a nice plus

1080p display on a screen less than 21 inches is a meme

where do i buy a modded full hd i7 x220, im too much of a bitch to mod it myself.

a lot of battery use and im using ubuntu 16.04

This.

It's alright. Build quality is a bit worse than T60p (shallower keyboard, slightly lower quality plastic on the case) but still much better than other laptops. GPU and CPU performance are good and there's no throttling, however the chips do get very hot under heavy load (85 to 90C for CPU and 80C GPU). I have the model with Quadro 2000M and 2,4GHz CPU, maybe the lower end ones run cooler. Idle temps are around 50C and the fan is barely audible.
Cleaning the fan is a lot of work, have to remove lots of shit to get to it.
The fullHD display has good color reproduction but is sadly TN and like all thinkpads of that era comes with horrible flickering (but bright) backlight by default, someone made a program to change the frequency of it though so it's less noticeable. Also mine has 2 subpixel errors, apparently common with this model.
The sound chip sucks, frequencies below ~100Hz are missing
The laptop is surprisingly light for a workstation, but the power brick is massive.
If you get one make sure to install the latest BIOS updates, which fix issues with high latency when using the network card. Also turn off the Cstates and most other unnecessary power saving features as they too add latency

Theyre fucking shit after a few months though

Can x200 fast enough to run a windows vm in linux

coming up on 3 months and its been fairly consistent.

I guess time will tell.

I paid 19$ for a 6 cell and it died after 10 months. Currently using a 9 cell for about 3 months and it's already 4 hours per charge. Still cheaper than a original lenovo battery though.

Yeah, but it will suck for almost anything

it was only £15 for a 9 cell anyway.

getting 6 hours of max brightness, high performance use in windows with lenovo battery stretch thing.

linux is worse but i'm hoping debian + i3 will be better than manjaro is now

if i wanted to buy this screen for my x200: ebay.com/itm/112402385484
would it work out of the box and i'd just have to install it or would i need to buy a backlight inverter or something like that? keep in mind i have no idea how monitors work and i have severe aspergers, thanks

Would the X250 be fine as a replacement for a Macbook Air? If so, what's a good price for a used one?

t520

My X230 is slow as fuck sometimes and I'm web browsing with 4 or 5 tabs open. I thought it was overheating and throttling but temps seem normal. Do you guess see any other issues that might be causing bad performance?

I didn't see it in the OP but how are the t410s? One is for sale by me for $75

if you're really tight for cash, you can get a x240 and replace the trackpad module with a replacement x250 version for ~30 bucks.

>you can get a x240 and replace the trackpad module with a replacement x250 version for ~30 bucks
That's only needed if you're a trackpoint fan, a macfag will probably like the shitty clickpad.

Alright Sup Forums, what laptops or CPU/GPU you guys want me to do a pricing guide on for dankpads?

Get an X201 at least or X220
The slowdown not worth the classic aesthetics in 2018

Fair price, they use 1.8" SATA drives tho...

I got a ThinkPad 25 and the screen is so shit despite being an IPS. Honestly, I can't stand it anymore. I already had to replace the panel on my X1 because it was so shit, and the TN on my T420 is beyond absolutely awful.
I think this is it for me, lads. Gonna have to get an XPS 15 for my next laptop.

Lithuanian bro sent me the wrong hinges for my T400 :(

>I got a ThinkPad 25
why the flying fuck would you do that

Wanted a light machine with the good keyboard. Ended up returning because of the screen.

T420s + FHD IPS mod.

Honestly would rather have the mod for my T420 at this point, but can't find the converter board for sale anywhere.

I saw someone asking for this info some threads (because the original blog is kill) [this was in the install gentoo wiki ]

>he doesn't know about the p

>collecting rocks
>storing them in high locations weaponizing their potential energy against your property
living life on the wild side here

Ok bai

They probably looked comfy where they were at
>mfw people hanged LCDs overhead their beds

Ahh thanks. Didn't know the screen was TN. Slight deal breaker for me there. Guess ill stick with the x220. Thanks again.

Anyone???

Lenovo says if we show interest they'll bring back the T520

>debian + i3
please tell me this is a joke

here are your options:
Void + i3
Arch + i3
pick one

forums.lenovo.com/t5/forums/v3_1/forumtopicpage/board-id/tp01_en/page/1/thread-id/121207

I am using Debian + i3 what is wrong with that?

Which model thinkpad has the best display? Have to write a lot of science reports and manuscripts.

>falling for this trap again

Once 51nb makes motherboards for T5xx or W5xx, Lenovo will no doubt have to respond with a restyle or shutdown of 51nb.

What are the common additions to the 53mm express slot on the x220?
thinking usb3

mod it

or t520

>liking garbage flavor of the month harem anime
>2017
this is why the anime industry is doomed

not edgy enough to use i3, people using debian are usually sensible enough to use a de

would you rather an x1 5th gen or a L470? they are both about the same price on my country,the specs are
x1:
Intel Core i7 6500U (
8GB DDR4
L470:
i7 6600u
8GB DDR4


its going to be a shitposting, latex and occasionally a MatLab machine

I'm about to buy a x220t and I was wondering what tests should I run before I buy it, I was planning on rendering a movie and checking the battery use and heat.
Is there any software for a stress test?

Anything I can do to upgrade my 4 Lenovo Thinkpad Edge 15s?

Where are you buying yours? I was just looking at some on ebay to get for my mother as a christmas gift since she's been talking about needing a new laptop/tablet for work.

you mean hung

>Is there any software for a stress test?
There are loads of stress test programs. OCCT, Prime95, AIDA64 to name a few.

But check the physical condition of the machine first and foremost. Ask the seller why he's selling, if he's ever had any issues with it, etc., keep in mind everything on it can be repaired or replaced but don't get ripped off if it's a fixer upper.

u wish u were
>:(

Peru

Is there a tutorial for this?

should I disable all the "convenient" "security" features like the trusted computing thing, the active management thing, the hardware password manager, and the anti-theft stuff? which are backdoors to the greater internet and which are only backdoors to local network?

>buy x200
>assuming 100% rated seller wouldn’t leave a SVP
>find out today shorting the eeprom pins isn’t enough, need to build a serial reader out of diodes resistors and a db9 connector

Well fug, just asked the seller for the pass and I’m covered by eBay, maybe l’ll get some money back or he’ll magically have it.

My T430 just had a startup beep and CMOS date and time error. After I changed it it started up fine. I got it on power cable with no battery inserted to make it lighter. I'm reading that this can indicate faulty CMOS battery and/or funky chipset. I've had it for 3/4ths of a year and it worked well enough so far. Did any of you have this error and did it go away as if it was a fluke?

About to buy my first thinkpad and cant decide which model to get. I know most of the parts can be replaced and upgraded especially for the t420 and t430s but i just want something that looks nice, works well and is under $300. Suggestions? Do i just go with the 420 and pretend im not bothered by the lack of usb 3.0?

what is the proper way to configure this keyboard layout under windows 7? (thinkpad x200)

Highly doubtful
What did you buy?
They probably were able to boot to a USB/DVD and didn't think it through when testing bios.

A lot of consumers probably don't care.

>P50
ur liek litl babi

I want to dock my t440p and I'm running Debian stable- can anyone give me pointers on how that would be problematic?

I grabbed a t440p with 8g ram for 200 on ebay

What browser?
Also, what is capping? CPU? Disk? RAM?

>last update
>2014
If I wasn't too much of a lazy PoS, I would update it.

god you're full of shit.

oh nice. i like the build look of the t440p anyway. So whats the pros and cons for t420 vs t440p then?

I chose the t440p because the stats were superior for the price point. The keyboard is chiclety compared to the t420 and the touchpad is inferior. That being said, I got used to the keys and the touchpad is replaceable with one with actual buttons. Also- screen is easily replaceable- next mod is a 1080p ips.

>buy quad core
>remove dual core
>install quad core
only experienced thinkpros can do this delicate procedure successfully though

>So whats the pros and cons for t420 vs t440p then?
the t440p has a nice 1080p ips display instead of the abhorrent TN piece of shit they used as a display on the t420 for starters

It had win7, appeared to be a recent, mostly clean install, they left all the Lenovo utilities and system updates in the downloads folder.

I’ll ask, can’t hurt much. It’s a 4gb model in decent condition, I’d rather work on it than send it back and buy again.

What should I do with the pcmcia slot on an x61t? I doubt it can do eGPU.

what's the correct way to get the hard drive bay door open on a T420? every time I do it, I feel like I'm about to break the damn thing

usb ports, serial port, parallel port, rj45 port

anyone here replace their t430 keyboard with a t420 one? any tips?