/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds and _monitor_ suggestions; click on the blue title to see notes
pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>Learn how to build a PC (You can find a lot more detailed videos on channels like Bitwit)
[YouTube] how to build a pc. (embed)
>How to install Win7 on Ryzen
pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1 (embed) (embed)

If you want help:
>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs:
>NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE
>G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card
>R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM)
>R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming (especially the i5 8400) or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 1600)
>R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use

RAM:
>Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal
>Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports

Graphics cards:
>Consider Vega 56 for a Freesync monitor
>Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon)
1080p
>GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little
>GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
1440p
>GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced
>GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
2160p (4K)
>GTX 1080Ti

General:
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor

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pcpartpicker.com/list/FGvGsJ
cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2910&cmp[]=902
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2W06DX4775
myredditvideos.com/
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Okay Sup Forumsentooman, I need advice on last few parts of my system. What I have on me is:

>8700k
>asus z370-i
>strix 1080ti
>pcq39 case
>pg27vq display
>seasonic prime tit 650W psu

I need help with picking RAM (qvl says gskill, but which do I pick), cpu cooler, case fans and ssd.

Mostly concerned about cpu cooler, since max I can go is 120mm, and I'm not a fan o liquid cooling (never done it, will probably fuck something up).

I'm building my first PC and my cooler came with thermal paste pre-applied. I was screwing the cooler to the motherboard when the screws wouldn't grip, so I had to pull the cooler back and re-align it. This meant that the thermal paste was about a 50-50 divide between the CPU and cooler after the screws didn't grip, then I got it in successfully.

Are there going to be any negative consequences after doing this? I'm getting paranoid now.

CPU Fans will be More silent than ur gpu anyways.

In a well ventilated case, the noctua 120mm should cool ur shit well.

>my PNY 1060 shit the bed after less than 4 months
I'm pretty fucking livid about it
I just wanna play Kotor with my little brother

>Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64-bit
>CPU
AMD FX-6350
Vishera 32nm Technology
>RAM
16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-11-28)
>Motherboard
Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd. 990FXA-UD3 (CPU 1)
>Graphics
2752 (1920x1080@59Hz)
8192MB ATI AMD Radeon RX 480 (ATI)
>Storage
931GB Western Digital WDC WD10EZEX-75ZF5A0 (SATA)
232GB Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB (SSD)


Should I just trash the whole thing aside from the SSD/HDD and build a new one? I got about $2k to spend.

Was thinking of just replacing the mobo/PC but I think I'd be better off starting from scratch.

I wouldnt trash that GPU if I keep the same monitor.

pcpartpicker.com/list/qFDvzM

How's this for a super budget media center?
I want this for my garage plugged into a 55" TV via HDMI. TV is mounted to wall and computer will be in a walled wooden pocket.
I've been using a 5 year old 11" Netbook with 1gb of ram running linux lite. It works but still boots up forever and videos stutter and lag frequently.

I have a small receiver going to 5 speakers that will be plugged into this so I can stream pandora or sound from any technical videos I might watch or sometimes buddies just come over and we chill with shit going on the TV. Just want something that isn't god awful slow.

No price in list on motherboard but I found it on ebay for $35.
I also have 8gb of 1333mhz kingston ram (2 4gig sticks) that I'd be using.

Should this be pretty quick only on web surfing / youtube streaming / pandora duty?

Wait til Feb (Ryzen 2 and RAM rumored to drop in price) but yeah you should. The jump from FX to literally anything else is a significant leap in performance and quality of life.
GPU is fine for now.

what pair of gaming monitors should i get? budget is 1000 dollars

Final choice for my gaming pc build. Tried to keep my budget between 1300 to 1400 dollars using a 1080p 60hz monitor. Thoughts?

pcpartpicker.com/list/RhRMJV

Is there any point using Prime95 when testing Overclocks if I'm hitting 95C at the base clock?

Should I go with Fractal Design C or Meshify C?

If you are still around or around again, your set up is bad. You are concerned about the air from the front colliding with the CPU air, but not that your CPU is trying to pull air through the exhaust fan in the back?

Just flip the CPU fans around so they blow to the back of the case and have the front 2 fans as intakes. Then all your air is going front to back.

Reposting your original picture.

Any ideas for a new build? Assuming I keep the GPU that is.

i am amazed he cant see the problem here

if you were really doing anything else it'd be pretty inadequate but it still should beat any prebuilts without having bloatware.
Even that older APU should be fine for streaming video to just a 1080p screen. I assume your garage tv isnt 1440/4k

Get fast RAM
With that setup you need an amazing monitor

Nah, you're probably fine. Just do some stress testing and monitor temps

Depends on whether you're making the jump up to 1440p. There's a $600 monitor in the OP pcpartpicker that you could build around, if so. It's Freesync2, 144Hz, VA panel, and HDR10. I would still upgrade piecemeal; buy the monitor first, then new platform (CPU+mobo), then graphics card last. Since the monitor is Freesync2 you might try to hold on to your 8GB 480 until custom Vega

Eh, get a smaller case that's not designed to accommodate a graphics card. Also get one of the ultra low power Pentiums. That APU really only has two threads (two core is more like marketing BS.. technically it does have two INT cores but it only has one FP core so there's a huge bottleneck. It would be better thought of as one core two thread, way too little for modern operating systems.)

If you're buying a monitor, get the 1080p 144Hz monitor in the OP

u r dumb

Recommend me a cpu cooler for my i7 8700

Doing a mini ITX. When did RAM get so fucking expensive? I want to use the stock CPU cooler and I'm not sure if the power supply will be enough for everything. Tell me how to save money.
>CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($197.48 @ OutletPC)
>Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
>Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($199.99 @ Corsair)
>Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($139.99 @ B&H)
>Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card (Purchased)
>Case: Cooler Master - Elite 110 Mini ITX Tower Case ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
>Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($65.98 @ Newegg)
>Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($135.89 @ OutletPC)
>Case Fan: Noctua - NF-A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140mm Fan ($21.32 @ Newegg)
Total: $908.63

hyper 212 evo since you are not overclocking

Can I have the spotlights for a second. I just want to say fuck you to all the cum guzzling fags who recommended this cooler to me. It's intimidating as fuck. You unpack it and it's a fucking behemoth. Installing it was nervewrecking. Granted it was cheap and does a good job but fuck you all for recommending me that monster.

>hew is intimidated by 3 inches of finned metal

where you trying to put it into your butt?

Brainlet detected

You're probably safe, but you should reapply. Preapplied paste tends to be shit.

>Windows 10 Home
don't do this

Reposting here since sqt gave me zero answers.
Does the Ryzen segfault bug under heavy loads affect only the Ryzen 7? I'm thinking of buying a R5 1600 and I wonder if I should be worrying about it.

I'll be using Gentoo with it so I'm worried it might shit itself when compiling stuff.

>curved monitors in the 1440p section
lmao

>Ryzen segfault bug
that test caused segfaults on intel cpus too, ignore it

Has there been any word when the gaming Volta cards are coming out?
Planning on starting a new build around it

Nope, only speculation.

Hello.


I downloaded CPU-Z while home from college on my dads rig I built for our family years ago ago. I know this rig is older than mine, and I’d forgotten which intel processor it had. To my surprise (and I’m sure CPU-Z’s bench isn’t the best) it has a i7 2600 (non-K) and it was beating an AMD 9590 chip in both single core and multi tests.

It got me thinking it may give me a little better single core results than my current FX-8350 which is at stock clocks. I’m mostly a gamer, I play Overwatch and PUBG.

TL;DR - Is an i7 2600 (non-K) worth upgrading to from an FX-8350 (stock clocks)? For gaming usage - Overwatch and PUBG. I have a GTX 1080 GPU. I play at 1080p, 144hz monitor. Low settings.

I would be using only the Intel motherboard and CPU and keeping everything else the same.


CPU and motherboard I can scavenge:
Intel i7 - 2600 (non-K)
Asus p8z68-v pro motherboard


My current rig:
AMD FX-8350 (stock clocks)
Asus 970 aura motherboard
G.Skill 2400 ram, 32 GB
EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 ICX
Noctua d15 cooler
650 watt PSU


I don’t like overclocking the 8350, even a stable overclock in prime 95 will crash in games after a long session.

I’ve read you can kind of overclock the 2600 non-k by making the cores run at turbo all the time, and being able to overclock the turbo all the time. Something along those lines.

Thanks!

You have a GTX 1080 so don't give me the "I'm poor" excuse, just buy a new CPU.

I don’t have a lot of money, I’m in college. The 1080 was because my old GPU died and I wanted something a little more future proof than a 1060/1070.

If I had the money I’d probably do a budget 6700k build or something. But really I’d just like to know if the 2600 will give me more frames.

I have yet to get on board with solid state drives, still running all HDDs on my system. do you think I'll be fine with just a normal SSD or is it worth it to pony up for the m.2s?

i5 8400

You don't need an m.2 unless you've got money to burn. The difference is negligible for most applications.

No new CPU. Plz read original post.

Which monitor because I'm not really down to spend 500 dollars on a monitor

yeah that's what I thought. thanks

pcpartpicker.com/list/FGvGsJ

I haven't built a PC since 2010. Have these three monitors and need a desktop now. Do very light gayming but mostly office-esq things. Will only use win 7.

That's fine. Could use a HDD for extra storage.

First time builder. It all seems easy enough but installing the cooler makes me nervous lads

>ryzen 3
how does it feel to be poor?

no buli

2 x 500gb ssd
or 500gb ssd & 1tb HDD?

Second one is considerably cheaper.

Honestly me too

What's an easy to install cooler for my 8400?

My new 1080 and MOBO decided to commit suicide after just 5 days and took everything inside my hard disks with them. But haha guarantee haha goodbye to all my pics haha but not my money. Ha ha

I have two computers, computer A and computer B.

One has windows 7, one has windows 10. One is intel, one is AMD.


Can I take the motherboard and CPU from computer A and swap it with the motherboard and CPU in computer B?

Will they still boot fine even though I swapped cpu’s ans motherboards?

call me crazy, but I would do the former in raid1

Stock cooler.
[spoiler] I failed first time installing that too and kinda ruined the push pins. Stull works tho. [/sp

Noctua NH-L9i

Why waste money on power I don't need?

Who cares, just go to reddit.com and get your memes back.

don't worry about it
unbending pins isn't as terrible as they make it sound and if you arent a retard like me you wont fuck it up in the first place

Any swedish fag knows what's happening to Prisjakt. Site was down for me the whole day and I need to buy new mobo+CPU.

My old i7-3930k just died, looking to upgrade my CPU at a decent cost.

Baring different motherboard sockets, how much of a downgrade will this be? I'm going by the guide at the top and the 7500 seems to be a decent CPU for the price.

cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2910&cmp[]=902

Which socket did you unbend and how did you do it?

pretty sure linus has a diy video on that

You fucked up pins during the cooler installation? How even?

Hey Sup Forums, which is a better deal?

>pic related for $200 used then i'm going to buy 4gb DDR3, a new and better PSU, and a new 1050Ti all for $240 more (totalling up to $440) I can probably sell the replaced parts for $40 so about $400 i guess

I meant pic related for a hundred dollar*

or this one (all used) for $440.

or build a new Ryzen 3 system for $700 (first time building)

Get a Ryzen 1600 or i5 8400 instead. Kaby Lake is old and busted.

PSU is fine
You can find 3000MHz RAM on sale for 170USD

It was difficult to install on my AM3+ board

The i7 will give you a boost in PUGB. Check benchmarks to be sure it's worth bothering to swap. The FX CPUs are terrible at PUBG (or more like the PUBG/UE4 devs can't into hardware optimization)

>future proof
>graphics card
No.

m.2 is about the form factor, and your board doesn't have the slot. You're stuck with SATA

What's your graphics card? Obviously I was replying to several people about monitors so your question without context tells me nothing, retard.

Make sure you know how to install Win7 on Ryzen

why replace the power supply?

spend that money instead on 1060 6gb (huge improvement over 1050ti)

or this i7 is the best deal; 970 isn't even that bad

No

>I'm going by the guide at the top and the 7500 seems to be a decent CPU
Apparently you're not going by the Sup Forumsuide at the top of the top of this thread, which you should be

Clearly the i7 2600K + 970 build on value
But you'll have warranties etc if you buy that new Ryzen build, and you'll have a better upgrade path. You'll have to sell off the whole platform (mobo+CPU+RAM) next time you need to upgrade

I do like that the 8400 has 6 cores.

I guess my big question would be for multitasking will the decline from 6 to 4 cores and less threads make a big difference?

>upgrade path
stop with this shilling

when the next ryzen comes out, it may fit the slot, but the motherboard won't support the new CPU, so you'll have to replace everything anyways

>but the motherboard won't support the new CPU,
Yeah it will, retard. Ryzen+ is a given, and Ryzen 2 extremely likely unless the mobo manufacturer decides not to release a BOIS update. Anyway an i7 2600K is the top of the line for its socket, whereas starting with an R3 1200 allows for a later upgrade to an R5 1600 at the very least

>Does the Ryzen segfault bug under heavy loads affect only the Ryzen 7?
The segfault bug was only in the early batches, anything you buy now will almost certainly be unaffected.

I'm not in America so I have no guarantees that the retailer I'm buying from has a new batch or is just selling something they had on their warehouse for many months.

>retard
>talks about wanting to replace processor in 3-6 months

dude is talking about getting a 2500k or 2600k, I wouldn't think he's worried about being current.

and it happens all the time, 6months later the mobo mans stop updating bios

it's VERY unlikely that Ryzen2 will work in older motherboards when it launches.

but we can say the same thing about intel chips for the past few generations, other than coffee lake finally changing something, Kaby and Skylake chips are same socket and interchangable

>it's VERY unlikely that Ryzen2 will work in older motherboards when it launches.
It's the same socket. At most the motherboards will require a BIOS update.

Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB D5 6G Video Card

>it's VERY unlikely that Ryzen2 will work in older motherboards when it launches.
AM4 will be used for all chips until at least 2020.

inb4 am4+ rolls out january 2018

This guy is a legit retard.

No reason you can't have your fans going from back to front and use the front fans as exhaust.

Just get the air flowing in one direction.

left to right, right to left, top to bottom, bottom to top, corner to opposite corner.

It's not that hard.

They'll release new chipsets obviously, but 300-series will still be compatible.

Not the guy you're talking to, but [citation needed], especially since threadripper already doesn't use am4...

>talks about wanting to replace processor in 3-6 months
Not at all. I'm just saying that whenever he needs to replace something like an R3 1200, he can, because there are already better CPUs on the same socket. i7 2600K is the best CPU available on its socket.

I would say this one, but it's out of stock
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2W06DX4775
Not sure when it will be restocked

Ryzen 1400 & GTX 1070 possible at £650?

Just google AMD AM4 2020 and you'll have your citation.

sounds like they're just waiting for DDR5 to launch, and rumor has it that we're looking at late 2018 for that. So either AMD is going to be a year behind, or they're going to fold on that promise

and again, in 2020, you'll be buying a new motherboard for your new processor, and we're in the exact same boat.

who is updating their computers more often than once every couple of years?

talk me out of buying a gaymen laptop instead of buying a desktop.

I can't...I'm thinking of doing the same thing. sacrificing a handful of cores for some mobility :\

They're heavy, unwiedy, run hot as fuck (and your hands will be on their hot keyboards while you game) and you may think it's great because it's "portable" but after a while will realize it's been months since you took it anywhere with you since it's so unwieldy.

This. Don't.

>are you active duty
>does your job require you to be on the move constantly
>are you fine with a more expensive product that is much more vulnerable to theft and damage

>So either AMD is going to be a year behind, or they're going to fold on that promise
Most likely both Intel and AMD mainstream chips will be a year behind adopting DDR5.

I was just giving one solution. I wasn't saying it had to be from front to back, but that guy has his back fan exhausting millimeters away from the CPU fan blowing the opposite direction.

I think for most people front-to-back is the best because the front is usually out in the open and the back is stuck against a wall.

the one I posted is pretty light though, less than 2kg. I'll probably use my current keyboard and screen when I'm at home, so even if it runs hot it'll be while I'm out, making it a bonus.
>are you active duty
no, but I often visit family and friends, and since I'm gonna have to get a whole new right because my current is fucking DESTROYED I thought I might make the switch.

also I should add there's a pretty nice (relatively) deal on one used, so it's almost as affordable as building a stationary. also it has usb-c so I can upgrade with egpu in the future

The screen is too small for gaming with a separate keyboard. You'll have to put the keyboard between you and the laptop.
I've been through all of this stuff and I made the switch back to desktop and it's really much better now. Even my posture is better since the screen is taller.

Sure you can't take it to when you're visiting friends and family but it's got to take breaks from gaming once in a while. Read a book or something.

>The screen is too small for gaming with a separate keyboard.
I also have a separate screen though. It'll work nicely since I've been wanting a second screen.

Knock yourself out them, it's your money.

About that.. I was thinking maybe I could borrow it from you guys?

Is it better to buy a bundle from Newegg or purchase items separately online?

My budget is $300 USD (before shipping). I'm looking to buy a motherboard, processor, and 2 sticks of 4GB RAM. Specifically:
>MSI B350 TOMAHAWK
>AMD RYZEN 3 1200
>G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 288-Pin DDR4
I purchased a GeForce GTX 950, a EVGA SuperNova 750 and a second monitor last year and just want to overhaul where my system is failing to keep up when I stream on Twitch or watch something on one monitor and play on the other.

>I found the exact combo I'm looking for on Newegg priced at $295 USD, but I'm concerned I'm just wasting my money.