If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >G4560/G4600 for non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming (especially the i5 8400) or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 1600) >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Consider Vega 56 for a Freesync monitor >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >GTX 1050Ti and 3GB 1060 are the only reasonably priced cards; 6GB 1060 or 4GB 580 if you want to overpay a little >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
So how good is the EVGA step up plan, planning on buying a 1080ti brand from them and wanna know if it's any good just in case the meme volta comes out.
Robert Carter
Is this a good 1080 ti card? there is like 100 usd difference in the next card
Jacob Jenkins
You can only do it within 90 days of purchase. Volta isn't going to be here for at least five months. It also won't necessarily be added to the Step Up program on release day, especially if stock is tight. You can also only get the most basic models via Step Up, and all that'll be available at launch is the Founders Edition with a shit, noisy cooler. At best you'll get a basic, non-overclocked ACX model added a couple of months later.
Seems like a complete waste of time and effort to me. Just wait for Volta if you want Volta.
Jaxson Turner
Well I don't really give a shit about the volta since I doubt any game would need that much power, so is it worth getting EVGA or should I just go with ASUS 1080ti
Carson Ramirez
What's the most tech-illiterate/retarded thing you read here, /pcbg/?
>1600 can't run 4k literally in last thread
Jayden Ward
>ryzen is better for gaming than coffee lake
Xavier Hill
The Strix is technically the best air cooled 1080 Ti in terms of noise/cooling. EVGA's warranty service is far better though, and the FTW3 isn't that far behind on the noise front. That's what I bought and I'm very happy with it.
Matthew Miller
After building a PC, what should I be insalling once I'm done with the OS and drivers? Graphics APIs?
David Ward
Hey Sup Forums, I posted this already but I need to know if this is an okay build (priced at $440 used).
Also, can a 2600k run Windows 10? On the board page, it says "Supports Windows 10" but people say that they're missing drivers. Should I stay on Win 7 or should I up to LTSB if ever I get it?
have you updated your BIOS?
Ryder Hill
tons of shit BIOS update graphics drivers benching tools audio drivers, chipset drivers, a bunch of other shit visit your mobo manufacturer's for most of them.
Nathan Cook
>all that shit Welp I'll go prebuilt
John Bailey
While I'm not that familiar with US prices, doesn't look like it's worth it. Buying the parts separate would cost me around 400-450€, but even still the are parts I wouldn't want no matter the price. H61 chipset makes no sense with a cpu that today starts needing OC to keep up with current ones, OCZ PSU's are meh (had one before my current Seasonic), and that tiny laptop hard drive I woyld just throw away to make space for an SSD or a larger 3.5 HDD for storage.
t. retard who will never enjoy customising and tailoring his PC, and going through the joy of updating and installing all those delicious drivers and gadgets and tools and making his PC top comfy
Luis Lewis
t. Abdulah El Fatih
Andrew Kelly
I haven't finished assembling, waiting for a package that's running late. >mobo manufactured for most of them Should I still check every component in case it's not the latest? >benching tools What's a rundown on those? >going with prebuilt What are you even doing on this thread.
Dylan Miller
ain't a prebuilt, just on a used buy & sell website since the cheapest build i can do with a ryzen 3 is $800 (with monitors and shit included).
Justin Sanchez
Every 12yo kid will build a pc no problem now. You're literal brainlet. Even then, you should ask somebody to build it for you.
Camden Howard
My dudes I need some help picking a new monitor for my home PC. Mostly for gaming (think TW3, grand strategy etc) - light CAD work, programming and video viewing. Currently using a 980TI, but I'll probably upgrade soon, should be 27", needs VESA mount and budget is somewhere around €800. Shit's driving me crazy because there's so many of them and I can't tell what I'm supposed to be looking for.
Kevin Long
do nothing with it and alt-tabbing to shitpost all day
Kevin Hill
Why does anyone (in Europe) buy the Samsung 960 Pro 1TB when the Samsung SSD SM961 1TB is identical except for a fancy sticker but 15% cheaper?
European customer protection laws guarantee you 2 years of warranty anyway.
Kayden Lopez
Sup Forums
Ryder Williams
>3DPD
You can have her.
Jason Hill
>European customer protection laws guarantee you 2 years of warranty anyway. It's 5 years in Norway. Since it is an item that costs more than 1000 kr, and is expected to last for more than 5 years.
Isaac Sanchez
Lifespan of an SSD? Is 250GB enough for wow?
Luke Hughes
For wow + w10*
Jaxson Rogers
>mfw the ryzen meme keeps getting pushed >mfw ryzen can ONLY compete with fast (3466 mhz) low latency (CL14 14-14-14-30) ddr4 ram >mfw retards will buy some cheap ass ram kit and be completely oblivous as to why the cpu is slow as balls
Juan Morales
Entirely depends on how much you write on it. If the controller doesn't die more than a decade of normal consumer usage for current models
Nolan Gomez
Lifespan is more determined by writes, they're write limited.
If you're reading to it more than writing, it will last a really long time. Then factor in they wear level against empty blocks to extend lifespan. By the time you would need to replace it, SSDs will be a dime a dozen.
Christopher Mitchell
Looks worth it to me. if you have bad drivers just go to the manufacturer website and install the latest ones, they tend to work just fine.
you can flash the bios for ivybridge support if you want to go for the next gen i7 but i wouldn't bother
Eli Wright
pretty sure it's repeated ad nauseam that fast ram speed is needed with ryzen in these threads. you're greatly exaggerating how important the latency is though, try not to get so triggered.
Elijah Kelly
>citation needed: the post At least make your wait worth your own time
Jackson Ross
Breaking news: every cpu in existence likes having faster ram.
Connor Baker
Enough now, but you shouldn't put anything else on it. Also I wonder how big the next expac will be.
Michael Hall
>fast ram speed is needed with ryzen in these threads. you're greatly exaggerating how important the latency is though there's a 10% difference between low latency and "fast ram" >63983294 >Breaking news: every cpu in existence likes having faster ram. we're talking about the timings here not the clockspeed, keep up grand pa.
Angel Ortiz
Traps are subjectively better than flapping layers of roast beef, though.
Isaac Ortiz
>we're talking about the timings here not the clockspeed, keep up grand pa.
Outside of ludicrously tight and ludicrously loose timings it doesn't really matter unless a given task is particularly latency sensitive.
Colton Williams
>talk about processors and computer components >retard decides to announce his asperger's by handing out a few (You)s and writing "Sup Forums" in his post I don't understand
Nathaniel Thompson
EVGA has god tier customer support and the FTW3 is pretty damn good. If you buy a strix card good luck ever getting support, ASUS doesn’t give a shit about it’s customers
Logan Russell
Am I missing something? Is there a difference or is one just really overpriced?
Budget $500 USD Chinese cartoons, shit posting, online poker
Liam Hall
You could go for a mini ITX build with passive cooling for the GPU (if you even want to have one). A Pentium, i3 or Ryzen 3 will do you very well for just that (you need dedicated GPU if you go with Ryzen).
Do you also need to buy peripherals?
Jose Sanchez
if my monitor de la computadora has 60 hz refresh rate i can't see above 60 fps?
Ryder Price
No, I just need a new box. The current one is very old and beaten and does a shitload of noise whenever is turned on.
David Ward
The human eye can't see more than 24fps. Anything higher is just marketing.
Jason Bennett
put an iphone in front of your eyes as it records the screen at 60fps
You will start to see see 60fps cause of that.
#lifehack
Levi King
So whats a good board to pair with a r7 1700 non x?some people recommend a b350 while others say x370.
Grayson Jackson
Or rather, use a phone that can record at 4k resolution. You can save tons on the monitor and graphics card.
Cameron Bailey
an x370 would "supposedly" have better VRMs for OC
Joseph Nguyen
And more ports.
Julian Nelson
I use sandy bridge and win 10. works fine ootb if there is an internet connection for it to dl drivers with windows update. A sandy at stock clocks is not a very good gaming cpu these days and the sc performance will likely be a bottleneck with a 970. You really need a p67< oc board and that cpu at ~4.5ghz to make it fly.
Christopher Johnson
Something along the lines of this pcpartpicker.com/list/jynbNN would be good, you can get rid of the SSD and reuse your old computer's drives.
So I'm thinking about getting a 1600X over a 1600 because of higher clock speed. Why isn't recommended?
Grayson Thomas
It can't run 4k at high fps, idiot.
Kayden Reyes
they OC about the same, the 1600X might be slightly better binned, comes at a higher base clock, and doesn't come with a stock cooler
James Smith
kys
Connor Flores
Please elaborate.
Cameron Scott
>no argument No problem, idiot.
Bentley Richardson
Are you legitimately baiting, brainlet? Who spooned this shit up your asshole? you sound legitimately like someone fresh out of facebook. Resolution isn't CPU intensive you fucking eternal brainlet. If you put a years old 2500k with a 1080Ti on 4K it iwll perform the same as a 16 core threadripper or a 50 core Xeon you turboretard youtube.com/watch?v=s0O3MxolJ7s
What is the thought process that hits you in the head and you go "hey, I think I'm tech informed enough to post in Sup Forums"?
Kayden Edwards
>It can't run 4k at high fps, idiot. 4k of what? Videos? Blender? Synfig? Mandelbrot fractal animations?
Nicholas Miller
you must be the same guy from the last thread
Henry Sanchez
Alright gents, I've set up two builds and I need help choosing which one to go for. Main use will be 1080p gaming with a Freesync 75Hz (lel) monitor. I plan on building in the next 2 months, getting the parts whenever I see their price decrease (if it decreases at all). Budget is up to £1100 tops
Any tips on how to drop the price further are appreciated: I feel like the PSU might be overkill and I don't know shit about mobos so I might be able to get a better one for both builds, for a similar price. I heart the WraithSpire Ryzen cooler is gud enuf on its own, but I've added a Hyper 212 EVO for the Intel build - again, I'm not sure if this is overkill or a good idea.
William Reed
4k 144fps goalpost moving, duh
fuck amd amirite
Isaac Taylor
>you must be the same guy Ofcourse it's the same guy, retard. Not often you can find people with sub-40 IQ
Henry Diaz
What are you even trying to say? 144 FPS in which application?
Brody Lewis
>posts wojaks >spams "brainlet" >insecure insults Yeah, spoken like a true idiot who knows nothing alright.
Dylan Brooks
>it gdsfan run 4k >1600 cant run fps >4kkkkkkk but the cpu cant IT CANT i know from facebook rofl
Parker Roberts
Volta or Pascal refresh next year? Planning on getting a new GPU for Metro Exodus
Ethan White
It's not bait. It's too retarded to be bait He's just retarded, don't rub his brain cells too hard.
Evan Williams
Go with AMD, it's a good bit cheaper. There is no point buying Intel CPUs nowadays.
Brayden Kelly
You really are as bitter and hilariously insecure as they come. Sorry, sometimes you just need to admit you're wrong and have no idea how CPUs scale with higher resolutions.
Michael Perry
my displayport cable is literally shaking at the thought of having to shift 4k144hz worth of bandwidth
Thomas Brooks
>you
Jack Walker
Fanboys like yourself really are stupid.
If you're emulating or aiming for 144Hz, you should buy Intel. Otherwise buy a lower end Ryzen or Skylake.
Ayden Perry
Intel integrated GPUs "run 4k" just fine. Be more specific.
Jack Nguyen
You fucking dumbass, a R5 1600 is easily capable of 144hz.
Jaxon Smith
...
Noah Morgan
user I'll have you warned that if you press him any harder than this his last remaining brain cell will malfunction and you might be charged for cyberhomicide
Colton Peterson
>mfw have 1600 and play at 250+ FPS on a 144hz panel Nice joke tho
Samuel Watson
>resorting to samefag As if you couldn't get any more desperate. Must suck losing an argument this badly.
Samuel Barnes
>the mere mention of resolution and refresh rate implies proprietary 3D video games
Ryan Reyes
AMD idiots like yourself sure enjoy repeating falsehoods. All the while completely disregarding the benchmarks. Again, always funny.
>have 1600 and play at 250+ FPS on a 144hz panel What? Half-Life 2? My Ivy Bridge could do that easily too.
AMD fanboys like yourself seem pretty active at the moment.
John Long
AMD trying to run 4k lmao
Jacob Collins
Post wojaks, brainlet wojaks, and intel wojaks We partying tonight
Elijah Smith
what you buy will largely fall down to personal preference, but at those framerates/resolution the cpu largely won't matter also consider that the intel is 6c6t whereas the amd is 6c12t, while it might not seem ideal to think about future proofing with such a low end cpu to begin with 6c6t is a really shit setup and won't be ideal as console games are going to be optimised for 4c8t and historically hyperthreading has always paid off, you can look at this with the 2500k vs 2600k, 2500k was 4c4t and the 2600k was 4c8t, otherwise they were almost identical, clock for clock the 2500k did BETTER in most games at launch as hyperthreading is sometimes a downside, however 5 years on the 2600k is obviously the far better choice, Sup Forums at the time was shilling for the 2500k as "games don't use more than 4 cores" and that hyperthreading was a waste and that the 2500k was doing better at the time, but right now the 2500k owners are probably kicking themselves considering the 2600k is still doing fine and that a cheap used 2600k off of ebay is a decent upgrade the same can be said for the 4770k vs 4790k, the 4790k is still a decent cpu yet the 4770k feels dated either way, I'm not trying to say that the amd cpu is better now or that it would be better in the future, but I wouldn't settle for 6c6t in that position (though I am on an intel 6c12t so I am biased)
Nathan Wood
>brainlet wojaks, and intel wojaks seems a little redundant
Michael James
>benchmarks which show less than 10fps difference on max settings are relevant when the goal is maximum framerate
Easton Gray
stop
intel has bigger fps in 4k ok
fuck off amd shills
you cant hurt me as long as you cant downvote me
Andrew Martin
Benchmarks?
Benjamin Robinson
>benchmarks which show less than 10fps Well done on further proving your stupidity.
what do you mean running pinxels is a gpu task i dont care man babby told me intel is better at 4k stop saying these things man
Isaiah Jones
You are getting really asshurt here dude.
Easton Gray
Navi.
Levi Cooper
IT
JUST
DONT
WORK
THAT WAY
BLUE IS BETTER EVERYONE TOLD ME ITS BETTER
Easton Rogers
Coming from an iGPU, the 1050 Ti is fucking godlike. I can't imagine how powerful the higher tier cards are like.
Landon Perry
I wasn't the person you were replying to originally, I jumped in from the thread index, this isn't reddit where you can pretend to know who you're replying to user but no, good job being intentionally malicious by cropping what I said to fit into your strawman, if you want to talk benchmarks post your preferred benchmarks instead of letting people guess your argument for you
