>James Damore, a former Google engineer who was fired in August after posting a memo to an internal Google message board arguing that women may not be equally represented in tech because they are biologically less capable of engineering, has filed a class action lawsuit against the company in Santa Clara Superior Court in Northern California.
>His claims: that Google unfairly discriminates against white men whose political views are unpopular with its executives.
>Damore is joined in the suit by another former Google engineer named David Gudeman, who spent three years with Google working on a query engine. According to Gudeman's LinkedIn profile, he left the company in December 2016 and has been self-employed since.
>The lawsuit, filed by Dhillon Law Group, says it aims to represent all employees of Google who've been discriminated against due to their "perceived conservative political views by Google," due to "their male gender by Google" and "due to their Caucasian race by Google."
>More specifically, it accuses Google of singling out, mistreating and systematically punishing and terminating employees who "expressed views deviating from the majority view at Google on political subjects raised in the workplace and relevant to Google's employment policies and its business, such as 'diversity' hiring policies, 'bias sensitivity' or 'social justice'..."
wired.com/story/james-damores-lawsuit-is-designed-to-embarrass-google/ >At her press conference, Dhillon said Google shareholders will be “pretty shocked to find” that employees are spending their time “talking about furry sex clubs and toxic whiteness,” rather than doing their jobs.
>mac users
Adam Jackson
She's not wrong though
Jack Morales
james damore is a whiny snowflake fag
Jason Richardson
>64227995 google shills don't even bother defending google anymore haahahahah how pathetic
Jonathan Barnes
I hope this soyboy doesn't get a single cent and gets countersued to bankruptcy. That money belongs to me as a shareholder.
Elijah Perry
google basically has no way to defend themselves now, they are too deep on the shit, its matter of time that they end like Yahoo or even worst
Kevin Morales
>pic what the fuck is this a company or an asylum
Michael Perez
not even a shill i don`t like whiny fags who wanna play victim ffs grow a pair and move on and stop being a fucking cuck
Adam Ramirez
Maybe as a shareholder you should have done something about your company's racist and sexist behavior?
Jason Hughes
I'm an abstentee shareholder I don't give a fuck what the company does I just want my gains.
Ayden Adams
Well then prepare to pay the price of your inattention.
Chase Allen
Fuck off conservacucks
Christian Ramirez
but it doesnt trigger me, youre entitled to your opinion
yes america sucks nah, yall motherfuckers need jesus maybe christmas is p cool nah, let americans be americans
Oliver Reed
>64228125 look to his weak bait and laught to the powerless faggot
Joseph Nguyen
>arguing that women may not be equally represented in tech because they are biologically less capable of engineering That's not what he said
David Howard
We know. Anyone who read the memo knows, but news outlets are under no obligation not to lie.
Joshua Morgan
All these views are pretty common now. Except for the hail Satan part, I thought that was a right Wong joke about the left as Americans "left" party are mostly satanic pedophiles drunk on power. I guess some democrats are good people.
Caleb James
But why are people opposed to something they didn't read?
Christopher Cooper
>because they are biologically less capable of engineering Yahoo you piece of shit, that's not what the memo says
Liam Wright
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David Allen
because it's faster and simpler to get a second hand opinion than it is to form your own
Leo Garcia
>white men are the best programmers >im totally not a racist asshole questioning the competence of my colleagues pick one and only one, then realize we're laughing at you
Jose Wright
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Connor Taylor
That is still not what he said. He wrote a long document in response to a diversity training course that asked for feedback. In it, he argued that it might be better to diversify by making more collaborative roles as he argues more women are social. There is nothing that states that the technical is better than the social, ideally you want both. Any engineer would agree with this. Being good at the social stuff is crucial. Make people trust you, getting funds, explaining your work to others are just as important as making a fast implementation or coming up with new solutions to unsolved problems. There is no reason to look down on people because they are different, that is a narrative YOU put in there. Men and women are generally different. He wanted to make diversity rules reflect that by embracing the strengths.
Jaxon Jackson
looks jewish what's his endgame?
Noah Adams
gonna be hard to prove that a company which accepts dragonkin and expansive ornate buildings as employees was actively discriminating against white, male conservatives.
Nolan Rodriguez
The guy's an idiot. He just went on a baseless rant, rooted in nothing but his own personal convictions. Honestly, someone dumb enough to write what he did *in a corporate environment* is too fucking stupid to work at Google.
Leo Moore
Are you retarded? He looks like a typical italian, Roman Nose. Look at his last name for fucks sake you idiot.
Lucas Cruz
Yeah no, you're not an authority on diversity or women's skills. Fuck off.
Evan Lewis
please enlighten us, then, mr. expert
Benjamin Barnes
Fighting against injustice at the place of your employment makes you an idiot?
Jayden Barnes
He had references to scientific studies all over his document.
Camden Wood
>Fighting against injustice at the place of your employment makes you an idiot?
Posting moronic opinions based -- very obviously -- on your own personal biases is professional suicide.
He didn't say it at lunch. He question the new direction in a meeting. He wrote down his idiotic, myopic, entitled opinions and sent them around work.
He's a fucking moron.
Asher Martin
except that firing him for that is a violation of californian law
Jayden Perry
They deserve it since the company is full of fags
Joseph Fisher
The opinions are based on referenced scientific studies and are relevant to the company because they aim to fix unfair hiring practices.
I'm not arguing that this doesn't ruin his image with google higher ups. It obviously does. I'm arguing that he did a good thing and isn't an idiot for doing what he did.
Easton Perry
> Idiotic, entitled opinions
That are verified by the relevant scientific literature and were comprehensively cited in the memo itself, which was created for an internal forum on the topic of diversity in the workplace with a focus on attracting more women to Tech, right?
You fucking mongoloid.
Jonathan Harris
likely neither are you..actually.. wtf is a "authority on diversity" why should i need someone to confirm how "diverse" something is?
Jace Wright
>arguing that women may not be equally represented in tech because they are biologically less capable of engineering That wasn't even what he argued. Fucking hell, how long will media keep misreporting shit?
Adrian Roberts
> Swallow injustice that happens to you and move on >Stop being cuck Choose one. user you don't seem to know what cuck means.
Adam Brooks
>lean left >expect anything else but degeneracy Looks like the meme of 6/7 people working in being diverse and one white man working on being productive has become reality in google
Luke Walker
>it's our job to tell people what to think
Sebastian Parker
This.
Here's to hoping that someone at least reports on the entire proceedings. Primarily so we can envision the reactions out of the shareholders when they hear about their employees' drangonkin furry bullshit.
Grayson Gutierrez
Pretty sure shareholders are in on this. They had to know what they were getting with their diversity package.
Sebastian Sanders
>how long will media keep misreporting shit? As long as it's supported either by investors or a government. (So forever)
Colton Young
>I IDENTIFY AS AN ATTACK HELICOPTER NOT EVEN MEMEING
Jeremiah Watson
That has to be a fucking joke. No way someone actually does that r-right?
Brayden Kelly
Nigga you don't even have to use the meme
>I identity as an expansive ornate building Way better than attack helicopter. Memes couldn't hope to be as absurd as the raw truth.
Jackson Walker
Test
Jose Ortiz
This. Fuck normie media.
Adrian Watson
>tfw moot is long gone
Brandon James
And to think I once dreamt of working at goygle
Jaxson Sullivan
rip in pieces, !faggot
Gabriel Campbell
>being a weeb is toxic
Charles Wood
H-he is just playing the long con, r-right?
Parker Diaz
he sold the site out to SJWs, don't you remember?
Robert Parker
>look me mom im trolling huur duuurr
Jaxon Moore
your "gains" are about to take a huge dip as this lawsuit plays out, unless you turn around and short that shit.
Luis Carter
user...he's gone. He's gone and he's never coming back.
Easton Ward
>unironically thinks he's edgy
Easton Ross
I think he should lose. I think the argument that our world sucks because women are stupid is pretty flawed. even if they were on average less intelligent, which i dont believe, then still individual accomplishment and discipline weigh out brain differences by far. Also, as a species, we have 2 or maybe 3 centuries of radical industrialisation behind ourselves. We could be able to live as kings, you would think its about time to drop this stupid intense competition thing. Personally I think this whole i-hate-women thing is not even a political opinon and it shouldn't be especially protected. Also, not even a Sup Forums topic in the slightest.
Dominic Scott
There are people on Sup Forums right now that think moot was ever anything other than a spineless faggot attention whore and were disappointed or even surprised when he sold everyone out.
Oliver Morales
>Americans can't tell the difference between Europeans and Jews/Arabs >News at 11
Jaxson Adams
He was our faggot attention whore. And no, him selling out wasn't a surprise considering that he'd abandoned the site for years.
Zachary Phillips
>writes about topics with unambiguous scientific consensus >personal opinions/biases
Jace Watson
>>because they are biologically less capable of engineering
Article lies straight off the bat, he stated that women are just as capable as men, but that the reason there are less women in engineering is because they are in general LESS INTERESTED in engineering.
Leo Perry
there is no such thing as "european" Europe is home to many diferent ethnicities and nationalities
Jackson Lewis
>deliberately misses the point about Jews not being considered one of the "many" European ethnicities at all
Cooper Wilson
>I think the argument that our world sucks because women are stupid is pretty flawed. I think the argument that you know what Damore is talking about is pretty flawed.
Tyler Flores
Anti-discrimination laws do not extend to political views as far as i know.
Bentley Lewis
Yes, I too am a complete moron who pretends to be a conscious, self-aware adult who can read.
I agree completely. James Damore said women are stupid. James Damore HATES women. James Damore said our world sucks because women are stupid. He said all of this, in his manifesto.
So good to find somebody on my level.
Joshua Reyes
The class suit has several hundred examples of Google managers saying fuck white men. In one memorable passage, a manager is ranting about how white men over 40 can not think creatively.
Blake Rivera
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Tyler Sullivan
They do in California. Which is where this occurred and where the lawsuit was filed. This has been pointed out in numerous articles by now.
Nolan Bell
But that literally has nothing to do with what he wrote. I read the memo, something it seems most people commenting on this story haven't done. He acknowledged that there is a gap in representation between men and women in tech fields, but simply put forth a well researched and reasonable explanation on why that might be that doesn't involve systematic discrimination. Nowhere did he say that women shouldn't be hired or that they were incapable of doing the jobs as well as men could. To boil it down as simply as possible, argument is that men and women tend to think and act differently. They have different values and expectations. He addressed the concern that this could be a cultural phenomenon by pointing out the way it occurs in diverse cultures all over the world. The argument is that there are more men than women in the tech industry simply because men are more interested in it. His argument is against diversity movements that aim specifically to hire women and other minorities at the expense of others who may be more qualified for the job. His argument is that it shouldn't matter if you're a man, woman, or a large ornate building. The people with the best skills should be the ones getting hired. And that's an idea you'd have to be willfully ignorant to oppose.
Asher King
Man, I sure am glad I don’t use android. I’d feel so grubby having handed all my money and data to google.
Evan James
>This has been pointed out in numerous articles by now. I'm not an amerifat so that i don't know isn't a knock against me i feel.
Julian Gomez
They do when he's merely discussing workplace conditions regarding those who hold those political views, not to mention he's also bringing race and sex into the question.
>No employer shall make, adopt, or enforce any rule, regulation, or policy: >(a) Forbidding or preventing employees from engaging or participating in politics or from becoming candidates for public office. >(b) Controlling or directing, or tending to control or direct the political activities or affiliations of employees.
Parker Wilson
>individual accomplishment and discipline weigh out brain differences by far. This is literally the point he was making.
Colton Young
I hope you realize the alternative is Apple, who unironically fired a black woman because she had the audacity to think that having people with different viewpoints/ideas can be considered diverse, even if they're all white.
Why are you lying? The person in question made a PR statement to apologize but still works at Apple.
Asher Walker
I dont agree with a single step of your logic i'm afraid.
Jordan Wilson
looking at the overt sexism against men and racism against whites at google i would say its a slam dunk. depends on the jury tho.
its amazing to me how outright racist and sexist the left has become. they have gone so far to the left that they have looped all the way around to the opposite side, and become far right.
everytime shit like this happens trumps gets 100,000 more supporters. and evertime it happens i lose more respect for women. i am coninually amazed at how much women fucking hate men.
The outright lies, and outright rejection of reason and empiricism has utterly disgusted me. i am begining to believe that female epistemology is irredeamable.
Christian Rogers
>Gender governs individual accomplishment because of brain differences thas what he said, and thats we he has been fired and personally i think rightully so.
Jaxon Jackson
>Yeah no, Found the female
Cameron Mitchell
You don't believe that jobs should go to the most qualified candidate, regardless of their gender, sexual orientation, skin color, religious or political beliefs? How is that anything but the textbook definition of discrimination?
Hey man, that's like, not really an argument, alright. You know you have to address points with counter points, right? Not just say "Yeah no you're not a diversity authority" -- did you not take engineering? Did you not get taught the scientific method? Reason and debate? Not even dialectics? Introduction to logic?
You have to make points to win an argument.
Charles Morris
women do not believe in making arguments. they believe in reputation destruction. truth is irrelevent to the female mind. they only care about power.
Wyatt Harris
Keep talking about how one of the worlds biggest beneficiaries of the capitalist system (Google) is far left (But also far right? hmmm)
Protip: Liberals think they can change the world by changing culture, stamping out 'Wrongthink' Leftists think they can change the world by changing economic systems.
>Every time shit like this happens trump gets 100k more supporters You're 100% right, but only because moderates/centrists have a false premise on what leftism is.
The lies and deceit of these particular SJW's disgusts all of us who are in the know, but pinning this on all women is slanderous and dishonest.
You need to speak to more women user, I don't mean that in a nasty way but not all women are like this.
Julian Anderson
>still thinks these bozos even try to use logic or make arguments user, you have to realize, all these people do, is just (((cast doubt))) in order to destroy your reputation/power:
>Protip: Liberals think they can change the world by changing culture, stamping out 'Wrongthink' >Leftists think they can change the world by changing economic systems. The biggest load of horseshit ever. You think Antifa are liberals then? The people that use violence to stamp out wrongthink?
Gavin Jackson
>Liberals think they are not liberals the american left is no longer liberal they are now postmodern leftist. a philosophy literally directly derived from members of the nazis and communists parties
Landon Bell
>not all women are like this. Tru dat. I actually had this "sexist rant" bit come up in conversation with co-workers when the news first broke. Most of them were against the writer when all they knew was what the media was reporting, but after being informed as to it's actual contents, many of them sided with the writer.
Matthew Robinson
>Gender governs individual accomplishment because of brain differences
What an absolute lie, point out anything he actually said that corraborates this.
He said that from a biological standpoint, men might be more interested to a field such as engineering than females, how the fuck that does translate to 'individual accomplishment' ? Is engineering suddenly the pinnacle of individual accomplishment ?
There a MUCH LARGER discrepancy between men and women in for example the garbage industry, they simply can't find women willing to do that job, somehow this is not an issue...
