NUCs are the future of desktop computing

New NUC8i7HNK (nickname Hades Canyon) NUC from Intel.

Specs:
Intel Core i7-8705G
Radeon™ RX Vega M GL
Up to 32 GB DDR4 Memory
2 M.2 slots + 1 M.2 Radio
$999

Why aren't you getting a cute NUC Sup Forums?

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I had my Skull canyon nuc in the window with the temp being 0f out. It was running at 140f while driving fullscreen video on two 2k monitors and a 4k one. It also likes to randomly reboot. Good luck suckers.

Legacy-free. Still have one or two devices with legacy connectors that I use on regular basis...including analogue monitors.

not included:
>RAM
>Storage

in other words:
It's going to cost over $1000 for a (nearly) non upgradeable desktop pc.

>can't upgrade shit
>tiny as fuck
>if it even has a fan in there it's going to be a jet engine one
>probably throttles out the ass

Manlets of computers for a huge price tag.

The cooling is being done by a vapor chamber apparently. So it's better than just a fan.

>$999 to get a box with no ram/hdd/actual gpu

having the i5 skylake version i can confirm that that one is already a fucking jet engine. peaks at a 480p yt video to 80°C .

gets way to hot, perform horribly and throttles.

don't even bother buying nucs or any x86 based garbage for that matter. if you want tiny and relatively well performing hardware with low power consumption, arm is the way to go.

Are there any AMD NUCs?

because 30% performance deficit closing the backdoor

>Intel

These are the only SFF Ryzen machines I've seen so far:
zotac.com/product/mini_pcs/magnus-er51070
zotac.com/product/mini_pcs/magnus-er51060

Point me to a decent NUC that's affordable and comes with ram/hdd already in it
I was interested in getting a skull canyon but it's like $1200 with no cooling/ram/gpu and essentially oem with very limited upgradability

o.O

$1000 NUC
$100 8GB RAM
$120 256GB SSD
$300 eGPU case
$150 Decent GPU
Resulting in $1670, while you can assemble it youself for about $1000.

Or you can build a cheaper, better mini-itx ryzen PC that won't sound like a jet engine taking off and won't get rekt by meltdown

It's not like you REALLY need that few cm^3 of space you gain by using that non-upgradeable laptop shit

>r5
>1060 or 1070
>~999$
what a piece of garbage

Kaby Lake G laptops when?

it's actually not that much cheaper, specially long term. the differences with nucs is that they use mobile processors which consume less power but also lack performance, that would be the same for ryzen. in addition. there are less than 10 boards, of which half are b350 chipsets.

in think the overall benefit compared to the NUCs would probably only be that you can finally have a SPDIF port but that's about it.

it will get hot too unless you have a decently sized case with a few fans, even if your cpu is passive cooled. just the max tpd of 65w for even an athlon exceeds the consumption of a nuc.
price for mobo, cpu, psu, ram, hdd or ssd, cpu and case fan and case would be the same or more than buying a shitty NUC i3 version, taken into account that you buy the shittiest itx board and the shittiest am4 cpu which is not a ryzen

x360

Because I'd rather have a laptop with a 8705G or Raven Ridge

>$1369,99
*sad_pepe.jpg*

>$1670
lol, I can get an imac for that much money

Depending on your cooler every AMD is technically a nuke

the desperate intel shill
1/10 made me reply

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>nuc in the window with the temp being 0f out.
>likes to randomly reboot
>what is condensation

are they 30% cheaper now? I've installed NUCs for a few clients, they serve a purpose - got two mounted on the back of TV's in an office to display stats but i wouldnt have one as my main machine.

>It's going to cost over $1000 for a (nearly) non upgradeable desktop pc.
all according to keikaku, goy

>non upgradeable desktop pc
And with intel changing sockets every year, what besides GPU can you upgrade in matx computers?
>inb4 if the case stays it counts as upgrading

Intel lol

>It's going to cost over $1000 for a (nearly) non upgradeable desktop pc.
still a quarter the price of an imac

If the trend of scarce and overpriced gpus continue then the non-oc variant of this that's cheaper would probably be to buy than a traditional desktop

I will skull NUC you, OP

I'm not paying for an intel but if one day there's a pico- or nano-ITX board for Ryzen APUs I'd strongly consider that to replace my micro-ATX office PC.

get a desk mini and use a real desktop cpu

I like NUCs but that thing isn't cute and it's as retarded as these gaming laptops.

You can disable the skull. It's pretty cute in all black.

More excited for this.

I agree. The 65W seems like a nice minimal programming set-up. Just mount it on the back of a monitor or desk.

I'm using a Node 202 build right now but I don't see why I can't go even smaller. You could totally go for a thin-client look with this.

Yeah must be pretty expensive with the HBM

I've had a NUC for several years. My favorite thing is the fan shrieking any time I visit an animation-heavy website

I have some leftover 16 GB (2x8) DDR3 SO DIMM from a laptop and I was wondering if I should:

1 - Build a NUC with this which supports DDR3
2 - Find a second hand laptop which supports DDR3
3 - Sell it

Wat do?

>AM4 support to 2020
And not being stuck on a hilariously impractical form factor is good enough. ATX is nice and standardised.

A vapor chamber just pumps heat off the CPU more efficiently, you still need to dissipate it into the air. The previous Skull Canyon NUC was really bad about that.

T. Intel shill

> no actual GPU
that’s a Vega 24 with 4GB of HBM2 memory
it basically outperforms a GTX 1050ti

>eGPU
For what purpose? That vega is supposed to be on a level of a desktop 1060

what really is a NUC?

I already got some

> level of a desktop 1060
how? A Vega 56 is a little bit faster than the 1060, but slower than the 1070, and that with 56 CUs.

How can a 20CU Vega perform the same as a 1060? that’s more than 50% less CUs

But will it be good enough for 1440p?

and its integrated so I can never upgrade it and its in a non standard form factor and its proprietary.
I see what intel,amd, nvidia are pulling w/ this APU push and it stinks to high hell.

It's not better than what currently exists, it's just a higher margin segmentation. I'm glad that I caught wind of this shit before it started to get going...

$1k for this nonsense.. GTFO

I had one for around a year or so it ran great until the NIC stopped working I tried to swap out the OS just to rule that out of the equation. The NIC LEDs lights up as soon as I plug it in even before I turn it on.

>Why aren't you getting a cute NUC Sup Forums?
Aside from
>le 30% face
I have to deal with supporting our NUC-based appliances at work and they're fucking awful. Give me proper standardized form factors like ITX/mATX/ATX/EATX any day. If I wanted a gimped, cramped, tiny motherfucker of a board like that I'd get a laptop.

just to be clear, when I plug in the AC power the NIC's LEDs will light up even with the lan cable unplugged.

Older model nucs.. what's your use case desu?

We might start seeing more Ryzen SFF computers now that they have the low TDP versions coming, before it was really only Intel with the low TDP desktop cpu(in the form of the T series).

Are you retarded? The Vega 56 competes with the 1070.
Vega 64 competes with the 1080.

Still, how come a Vega 20 performs the same as the GTX 1060? Doesn't make sense to me.

The GTX 1060 in average performance compares to the RX480/580.
Vega is newer arch with higher clocks and no memory bottleneck.

Theres nothing confusing about this.

>not getting one of these
I'm ashemaled by you Sup Forums

(u)

>drives nearly 16 million pixels with a god damn integrated gfx card
>NUC outside
>not knowing what is condensation
Asking whether or not you're an idiot would be redundant.

>I'd get a laptop
Stupid meme. Using a laptop with an external monitor + keyboard + mouse is cancer. And then that thing takes up half the space on your desk. Not to mention that most laptops are utter crap packed with outdated hardware, a shitty display and a shitty keyboard. And if you buy quality you pay more than for a NUC. You also have a battery for nothing and batteries are bound to die.

My laptop broke last year and finding one that wasn't shit in one way or another is close to impossible. Thanks, I'll take the NUCs. If my NUC dies tomorrow I'll drop 200 on a new one, not 1000 on a fucking laptop.

Can someone explain what the point of a NUC is? You can't be that space-starved that you can't build an ITX system instead.

>Using a laptop with an external monitor + keyboard + mouse is cancer.
I don't see any laptops with MX Blues or 25" monitors built in.
>And then that thing takes up half the space on your desk.
Get a vertical-mount dock.
>Not to mention that most laptops are utter crap packed with outdated hardware
Golly gee, almost like a NUC.
>My laptop broke last year and finding one that wasn't shit in one way or another is close to impossible.
That's because you're retarded.

There's really no point in building your own PC if all you want is a small, low-energy device

>nonupgradability

that's why fag

A mobo and a processor, what the fuck do you need to upgrade you dumb cunt?

>Something something gross misunderstanding of heat density

Go away shill

I want to upgrade the CPU and the GPU in a few years

An ITX build with a proper internal PSU and a desktop processor is going to be 15 times larger than a NUC, and parts for a Thin-ITX build can be hard to get.

Although I don't see much point in higher-end (i5/i7 based) NUCs when there's stuff like Dell 7040 MFF for the same price.

To put in conference rooms for light use, conference calls, O365 etc.. They wanted me to use mac minis with boot camp because they didn't know NUCs exist. Boot camp on mac minis with win10 is a royal pain in the ass.

It's an interesting concept, but the price is way way way too high considering that intel CPUs are worth close to shit now.

Call me when we get a NUC with a desktop CPU and with proper cooling. Not that easy to put in a small-form factor, right?

>Boot camp on mac minis with win10 is a royal pain in the ass.

You must be incompetent. I have one and it's totally fine. Macminis are just intel PCs with some custom mobo shit and basically no BIOS. There's nothing particularly difficult in installing Windows 10 on one, whether in dual boot or natively, without Bootcamp (yeh, it's very much possible).

Makes sense. I have one from carry around light use.

I had the Skylake i7 SkullCanyon one. It committed sudoku in just 10 days. I returned it and went back to my FX-8750 desktop which has been running for years almost 24/7 with no issues.

*FX-8370

I had older Mac minis with win7 working fine. the last Mac mini revision with win10 has issues. The intel display driver causes the system to crash as soon as it installs. couldn't find older versions of it that didn't crash. didn't want to waste time with a Mac mini that wasn't necessary in the first place.
>install win10 on nuc
>works perfectly first time and installs all drivers itself
>just werks except all the win10 spam shit I had to disable.

Again, a full build computer with a 1050ti is 500 why fuck am I going to pay 999 for this trash box

Because it has 3 USB-C connectors, from which 2 are Thunderbird 3.

It has like 5 USB 3 ports, from which 3 are version 3.1a and two 3.0 one on the frontside with enough amperage to charge devices.

Because it has 3 HDMI ports, on on the front panel for VR, two on the back.

Because it has two DisplayPort ports on the back.

All these ports are teh latest implementations of the latest version of each standard. So you're getting top of the line I/O connectivity in a small box.

It even has an optical audio port and a 4-point array microphone on the front. And 3.5mm jack for headphones and a line input port (I think).

All this I/O is bundled on the same small mobo, each with its respective circuitry to drive it.

It also has an IR receiver built in.

And high-amperage power connector on the back for the big power brick.

Because the high-specced version is a 100 Watts CPU, if I'm not mistaken so it's not really a stick PC or tablet CPU. This thing has some real power in it.

But even so, I agree that it's overpriced, but it's not a trashbox as you called it. You mom is probably worth much less than this unit.

Its real price should probably be around 750 bucks.

>Why aren't you getting a cute NUC Sup Forums?

Probably because the one mentioned in the OP is about $300 worth of hardware and I'm not interested in paying bloated prices for hardware - fuck, it might as well be an Apple mac mini at that kind of price point.

*Thuderbolt

typo

No one uses thunderbolt nor USB-C connectors for shit.. They're a meme especially on such a limited low power platform. So scratch that bullshit off the list.

> It has like 5 USB 3 ports, from which 3 are version 3.1a and two 3.0 one on the frontside with enough amperage to charge devices.
Define a use case.. Gonna charge a bunch of iphones on it?
Basic motherboards have this shit. $150 Motherboard, $189 APU and you're at the same level this barebone p.o.s is at for half the cost.
> Because it has two DisplayPort ports on the back.
Because TVs have displayport inputs...
> All these ports are teh latest implementations of the latest version of each standard. So you're getting top of the line I/O connectivity in a small box.
You're getting all this I/O fed into a Chip that can't handle it, that will be a fucking inferno if you truly drove all of the lines .. limited at 100 or so watts.
> It even has an optical audio port
Optical audio .. standard on most motherboards now
> 4 point array microphone.. again is this a htpc or a desktop? or some fucked up combo of both with no thinking as to a use case beyond slapping shit on it to justify a higher price.
> All this I/O is bundled on the same small mobo, each with its respective circuitry to drive it.
Micro atx dicklet
> More dick sucking
stfu shill.. it's an overpriced meme box w/ no ram or HD

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>user learns that extremally small factor technology costs way more than regular sized stuff
Did you get into technology two days ago or something?

I have a NUC. I bought it because it was a reasonable price for what it offered. I intentionally skipped the skullfuck box in its first iteration. I have several custom build pcs and compute systems all around me. I also have a graduate degree in comp engineering and work for a related company.

> Did you get into technology two days ago or something?
No which is why I have clarity of commentary beyond some wet behind the ear shill like you who doesn't know what the meme processor's specs and power util can't possible handle all of the meme'd i/o that seems to have captured your dumbass.

I'm sure if you had any form of an intelligible response to refute any of my points you would have provided it by now...

>No one uses thunderbolt nor USB-C connectors for shit..

Not true. Lots of external HDD drives, docks, USB hubs, chargers, displays use USB-C connectors.

>low power
Do you even know what high amperage means? What does power draw have to do with how much a port can handle.

>Define a use case..
Everything uses USB ports today, if you don't even know that, you're a brainlet. And since all of them are at least version 3.0, they have the fastest transfer rates possible.

>Because TVs have displayport inputs...
Displays/monitors have DP ports, dumbshit. You can drive multiple displays with this thing, that's their main purpose. Multiple 4K monitors, at that.

>You're getting all this I/O fed into a Chip that can't handle it
Maybe, I'm waiting for the actual benchmarks to say this. For now, we don't rly know.

> 4 point array microphone.. again is this a htpc or a desktop? or some fucked up combo of both with no thinking as to a use case beyond slapping shit on it to justify a higher price.
I guess it can be useful when you want a basic mic input without plugging in some USB mic or some other shit. Many such SFF PCs have it. It can be useful in some cases.

>Micro atx dicklet
Stfu pops.

>it's an overpriced meme box w/ no ram or HD

I just said it's overpriced, but you're probably illiterate so you have difficulties understanding written words..

I'm not even the guy you were originally arguing with though.
It just looks like this simply isn't a product for you, it's obviously aimed at gamers and such, and price point is high due to a relatively new technology combined with the form factor
>shill
I haven't owned an intel product in 15 years

I can understand getting a cheap i3 NUC for a HTPC / Media player.

But what's the point of a high-end one?

ITX is the biggest meme. All the drawbacks of something like an NUC without any of the benefits.

USB-C
> Looks at his motherboard
I have it on all of them .. not a selling point.. it's a given.

> Do you even know what high amperage means? What does power draw have to do with how much a port can handle.
4 cores .. do you know what interrupts are? Do you know how ports are architecturally handled by a CPU? Do you not know what a Root complex is? Do you not understand what bus sharing is? You're talking about a 4 core mobile processor like its a super computer.. Are you shilling or just this dumb?
> Amperage ..
Watts nigger !
> Everything uses USB ports today, if you don't even know that, you're a brainlet. And since all of them are at least version 3.0, they have the fastest transfer rates possible.
$9 USB hub on amazon
> Displays/monitors have DP ports, dumbshit. You can drive multiple displays with this thing, that's their main purpose. Multiple 4K monitors, at that.
So now this is not a HTPC but its a small form factor PC..
Because a mini-itx case is just too big... Because I want to hear a fucking turbine everytime I engage my computer at $1000 for a fucking barebone.. You're clearly getting barebacked
> Maybe, I'm waiting for the actual benchmarks to say this. For now, we don't rly know.
Whose the one out their depth? It's basic comp arch. That shit tier 4 core processor is the bottleneck.. the insane IO is a meme. All of that shit is likely running on through the chipset that has shared bandwidth among all of the meme ports. I know because I know comp arch.
> I guess it can be useful when you want a basic mic input without plugging in some USB mic or some other shit. Many such SFF PCs have it. It can be useful in some cases.
Convenience memes for dumbass plebs who buy things on credit w/ money they dont have in the bank
> Stfu pops.
I'm educated not old
> I just said it's overpriced
Then stop praising it like its the second coming faggot

It's an overpriced meme box.. you buy a low price nuc or build a fucking mini-itx.this a wedge product

>Why aren't you getting a cute NUC Sup Forums?

Because I own my home which, surprisingly, has room for a comfy, easy to cool full ATX tower or twenty.