Is watercooling a meme?

Is watercooling a meme?

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Yes

>same cooling performance compared to half decent air coolers
>more moving parts = more things that can break
>more expensive than air cooling
>louder than air cooling (pump PLUS fans instead of just fans)

you tell me

if you're not looking for something super high-power or not really thinking about 'the best of the best', then yes

>Is watercooling a meme?
yes

/thread

On a course it's yes.

But on a GPU it's worth it.

My 1080ti ftw3 has shitty cooling. Wish I had gone for msi or a solution with bigger fans.

So my next step is a cheap block and connect it to my Celsius 240. Problem solved.

Fuck autocorrect.

>On a course it's yes

On a cpu, of course it is.

Yes for consumer CPUs, no for GPUs, yes for custom loops.

only if you care about looks

its dank af

Better have Noctua fans instead of having a pump and a fan.

Basically what said. Watercooling is for idiots.

It's not that bad. I'm running overclocked i7-6700k at 4.6 and my temperature only spikes to 60 celsius now and then when under 100% load. It depends of your system and what you want.

But to add - most of the so called PC products are made marketing in mind and are totally useless crap, like covered motherboards and memory with leds and so on. It's still a computer and it should be rugged and made functionality in mind. Computers are not even supposed to be rebooted, like ever. So if your uptime is not at least one year... you are fucking casual.

>>louder than air cooling (pump PLUS fans instead of just fans)
K, kiddos. Only reason most of my computers since lga775 have had water cooling is no noise.

yes it is

The worst case scenario for water cooling is so much worse than air cooling.

>water cooling breaks
>leaks shit all over your components, bricking most of them

>air cooling breaks
>fans stop spinning, passive cooling still works

>watercooling is more silent than my Noctua NH-U9S
yeah...no.
Just no.

Watercooling is a waste of time and money.

Depends, I use it to dump heat into my basement, because my bedroom gets too hot in the summer. Otherwise it is a meme.

Water cooling is bad it rusts out your cpu.

watercooling works if you're not using the warm air from inside the case to try to cool the liquid. pepole who put the radiator on top as an exhaust are idiots, that's right above the VRMs for the motherboard. put the radiator in front, drawing in cool air and the temps are fantastic. my 6700k idled -below- room temperature and never went over 60* when doing anything productive.

Riddle me this, Sup Forumsents:

>install 4 fans, 2 front intake, 2 top exhaust
>1070ti max load @ 70C
>decide to experiment
>install top 2 fans as intake
>1070ti @ 72.7C
>switch back to top 2 fans exhausting
>1070ti @ 75C

What the hell is happening?

Did you apply any Meltdown patch in between?

>/threading your own post
2015 newfag spotted

Owner of deleted post here. No I did not.

A d5 or ddc pump isn't audible in proper case, kid. Most my fans rarely turn on.When they do they spin very slow at 350-600 rpm.

This whole bullshit of water cooling being loud is from dumb kids on reddit who want to water cool tiny cases and use too small of a radiator so the fans are spinning 100% all the time to maintain a decent temp. Or using cases with windows.

mind telling us the room temp and why the gpu is under such a load?

Not quite.
I watercooled my laptop - now it doesn't throttle on me.
It was quite difficult, because I had to cover PCB with barnish...

Ambient room temp is probably 70 degrees. 100% load because I use my 1070ti to mine ether when I'm not using my pc

No pump is completely silent. My Noctua is.

Nice reading comprehension, champ.

You don't have a good point of reference on what silent actually means because you never used a Noctua.

And your pump is certainly not silent get a grip.

yes it's a gimmick for richfags to differentiate themselves from all the kiddies

there's no practical advantages

Nice continuing to prove you have little in the way of reading comprehension skills. Common core has done wonders to you.

You know what's funny? Watercoolingfags that hate hdd.

HSF = Only fan can break.
Watercooling = leaks and broken pumps

SSD = only chip can break
HDD = platter and chip can break

I guess the room in which you were testing was cold and you just turned the heater on to warm up the room and then you decided to run your tests. Which means there was no effect from switching intake/exhaust. Or you just fucked something obvious up which we cannot see.

A HDD breaks and you lose all your data. A pump breaks and you just buy a new one.

I fucked up by buying the cheapest water cooler from the Corsair hydro series. The fucking stock fan had better idle temperatures by 15 degrees but on Max load it was 10 degrees cooler. Makes no damn sense. It's also loud as hell

a fan by definition cant be completely silent.

For best performance, probably. Maybe it's worth it on a GPU, or maybe it'd be worth it if for some reason you can't fit a massive hinksink on your CPU but can put a massive radiator somewhere close and pipe water to it. Under those circumstances it'd be "worth it." Most people I've seen that watercool mostly do it because it's fun, though. Custom loops allow for a large amount of creativity and produce a nice aesthetic, if you're into it. It's less about performance and more about fun.

It's quieter than your garbage consumer toy fan

goddamit, buy used!
i got my 2 radiators for 30€ and pump + cooler for 40.
15€ for fitting and hose because who cares about looks
10€ for antifreeze bio agent.
most expensive part of the build were my noctua fans

you are fucking dumb, a pump plus fans will always be louder than just fans. more moving parts = more noise

anandtech.com/show/6830/cpu-air-cooler-roundup-six-coolers-from-noctua-silverstone-and-cooler-master/5

here are the cold hard facts, nothing beats noctuas poofans, sorry. you wasted your money on a shityy, loud and overprized cooling solution. deal with it you fucking noob.

inb4 more post-purchase rationalization and cognitive dissonance.

>anandtech.com/show/6830/cpu-air-cooler-roundup-six-coolers-from-noctua-silverstone-and-cooler-master/5
Let me help you out kid.
1. Those aren't custom loops.
2. fan speed matters
3. gpu fans

you think I have reading comprehension problems when I don't.

Not taking the time to debate that stupid accusation does not mean you are right in any way.

Pumps make noise. Water cooling is a waste of time, money and is for the same idiots that put leds and windows on their case.

it's the best way to cool threadripper right now. There's going to come a day when CPUs become so much of a much of a house fire problem that we'll have to use water cooling or some other technology.

>trying to argue against facts
lol


>inb4 more post-purchase rationalization and cognitive dissonance.

Let me help you out too kiddo. Go read a dictionary and looks up "inaudible" and then go look up "silent". Don't bother reporting back.
Like I said kid. I've had water cooling set ups for over 15 years. The facts you posted aren't relevant to custom loops.

>I've had water cooling set ups for over 15 years.
so you've never used a recent air solution by noctua and you don't know what you're talking about, gotcha. now stop replying to me

>ou've never used a recent air solution
Arguing in absolutes sure is neato kiddo. Check yourself in for autism.

stop replying to me, you are wasting my bandwidth and time with your biased, uneducated nonsense.

Just confirming my bias to dumb niggers and gen z at this point. Or anyone getting into this hobby post 08/09 for that matter.

As a Threadripper user, I don't think I will go back to air for aftermarket cooling.

no, what you are doing is this
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice-supportive_bias
tl;dr: you are not worth arguing with

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice-supportive_bias
Oh a wiki link. Original. And out of context of course.

this is just getting sadder and sadder. you know what, user? i'm starting to feel bad about this. picking on the uneducated handicapped troglodyte just isn't very satisfying. instead, i'm going to brighten up your life a little. i'm going to be that one shining ray of light in your bleak existence.

i will let you have the last word.

so come on, let me have it. make it count. i'll gladly take it if it means you'll experience the sweet taste of victory for once in your life, and you can go to bed knowing you achieved something.

Ask yourself. Did you link a single piece of evidence that had relevance to custom loops.

>comes into a thread expecting watercooling to be praised
>everyone knows it's useless crap
>can't catch a break and get mad
>"n-niggers and g-gen z"
eventually you'll understand this hobby is shit and water cooling is utterly useless.
Don't thank us.

Liquidfags getting BTFO ITT LOL

yeah by spewing bullshit and not-facts while shilling for noctua.

Wait, how the fuck is a pump and fans supposed to be quieter than than just fans?
Can some water cooling fag enlighten me, how more moving parts somehow are supposed to produce less noise?
Assuming the fans are the same size on both systems, they will spin at the same speed, thus creating the same amount of noise. With a custom loop you have the pump in addition to the fans. The pump creates noise.
Are you guys high or just looking to justify your expensive custom loop?

watercooling isn't a meme, it's a joke.

>Wait, how the fuck is a pump and fans supposed to be quieter than than just fans?
Called rpm. In an application designed to be quiet the pump and fans are effectively barely on. The pump at idle can be at the lowest setting you want and for load it only needs to be sped up a bit. It's at inaudible settings. The fans at idle are just turned off. Only need to turn on for load and too cool the liquid back down.

Where as the best aoi and heatpipe coolers need to have the fans spinning fast.

by enlarging the surface area and distributing it at more than 2 fans. Get it now?
what do you guess is more audible
>two fan on cpu running at 800rpm
>5 fan on radiator running at expensive custom loop
buying used parts is in no way more expensive than buying an high end air-cooler, Going ueber autistic like pic in op is a waste of money

I know for a fact that the fans of my 980ti don't even turn on until 60°C by default, so your point is moot. Air coolers don't run all the time, either.

We are talking about the noise under full load here.

You mean some cheap corsair 120mm radiator with shitty fans or you mean blowing 900 dollars on top of the line pump, tubing, fittings, blocks, fans and radiators?

Because if you mean real watercooling there's a reason it's used on super computers.
Water is just better at moving heat from one place to another than air is.

>I know for a fact that the fans of my 980ti don't even turn on until 60°C by default, so your point is moot. Air coolers don't run all the time, either.
That's a load of shit on modern intel cpus. The fans will run all the time.

The gpu fans still turn on and make a lot of noise.

>by enlarging the surface area and distributing it at more than 2 fans
So if we assume both systems use the same fans, water cooling will be louder due to the addition of the pump. I get it now, thanks.

>The gpu fans still turn on and make a lot of noise.
No, they do not. Only under load, when the card gets hotter than 60°C.
msi.com/Graphics-card/GTX-980-Ti-GAMING-6G.html
My card idles at 45°C, so I never hear it until it's in use. And when it's in use, I usually have my speakers or headphones on, anyway.

guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-geforce-gtx-980-ti-gaming-oc-review,11.html
>Note - The fans remain disabled when the GPU is under a temperature of roughly 60 Degrees C, 33 DBa is the lowest value we can measure here in the city. But this product remains passive and thus is totally SILENT.

I don't hear my cpu fan on my desktop, either. The fans might be running at all times, but they're so large that they hardly have to spin.

My laptop on the other hand is noisy as fuck, but for desktops air cooling is quiet enough for me. Definitely quieter than AiO's and like 600% cheaper than a custom loop while being comparatively quiet and efficient. I don't see why you would want a water loop on a personal computer, unless you're a ricerfag.

It's mainly a hobby.
It's not necessary.
2600k 4.6ghz 41c max load
Gtx1080 2,150mhz 36c Max load.

But can air cooling do this

> 600% cheaper than a custom loop
thats BS, buying used parts will get you a custom loop for under 100

>No, they do not. Only under load,
Yes my point.

>custom loops duuuude

>two fan on cpu running at 800rpm
my Noctua is 260rpm at idle and most like less than 600rpm under load (certainly not 800)

my gpu is at 0rpm at idle and 25-30% (which is inaudible) under load with a custom afterburner profil (1060 and I don't play very taxing gpu games, if I do the fans are blowing at 64% max. for 20-25% of the time, rest is 0 rpm.)

So there is no way your pump is less audible than my U9S @ 260rpm at idle.
And there is no way your 5 fans do less noise than my gpu at 25% fanspeed under load.

enjoying thoses console ports user?

this is not a dick measuring contest and people do have different systems.
for example, my r9 390 is hot and pre (used) water block the most audible thing in my system.

I only have a i5 2500 and a 1060. I don't overclock and I don't feel like it is a godlike buld by any means.much the same would be possible with older cpus and gpus (as long as they have the 0% rpm

>I don't think I will go back to air for aftermarket cooling.
>Air cools the water in my system, but somehow adding hoses and a radiator, (which block airflow through the case) will result in cooler temps.
No.

well, somehow it works on every modern engine this way

Nah senpai

Don't argue with retards who don't understand how heat transfer works. You'll get a headache and they won't get any smarter.

>i dont argue with retards
>posts on Sup Forums

it isnt more silent ,all i told you is that the ftw3 is has shitty cooling. so the solution is to watercool it.

stop talking like a 12 year old nipper. meme this meme that. smack the wart off yer cheb-end.

>he doesn't cool with mineral oil

I don't even play video games.
I mostly render video and I'm starting to learn NX11.

Whatever happened to piezoelectric fans or whatever?

>bought CPU liquid cooler
>no huge tubes inside my case
Was I rused

Watercooling is for multi-GPU setups because it is really hard to cool a system properly with just air in a setup like that.

Can confirm from experience. One of the cards would always overheat after a while.

SLI is just another meme though.

TR+Vega 64 almost completely silent under full load. Not a meme, just expensive as fuck.

Not that guy
I have used a Phanteks PH-TC14PE, a Wraith Spire, a Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4, a Hyper 212+ (stock fan and with a GT AP-14) and a custom water loop, all very recently. There is no discernible difference between the noise from the water loop and the noise from any of the dual tower coolers, meanwhile the Wraith Spire is actually for all intents and purposes silent.

>SLI is just another meme though.
this unless you need them for something specific outside of games

The point is that with watercooling, you can run the fans at extremely low rpm's and achieve the same cooling as an air cooler with 2 or 3 fans that have to spin at a higher rpm. It isn't just "total number of moving parts = total noise". 4 rad fans plus a pump at low rpm will be quieter than 2 fans at a high rpm

roughly, what percent performance increase can you expect out of a proper waterblocked GPU?

>computers are not even supposed to be rebooted, like ever

.01%

4 fans+pump will make more noise than my noctuas at medium rpm though.

How can you not understand how multiple fans running at low rpm is more quiet then 2 at high rpm?

4x 10dBA is way quieter than 2x 25 dBA. Lrn2volume.