Someone here recommend dwm. Got it installed, but being used to i3 the file for configuration was easy to find. Where is it for dwm? The site doesn't even give me a location.
David Harris
Reposting WM RAM comparison
Jeremiah Powell
You change the source and recompile to configure dwm
Jaxson Walker
The config file is the config.h header file. You have to edit that file and then recompile dwm to confirm your changes. Also if you got it from your package manager you're fucked. Just uninstall and grab it from the suckless website.
Adrian Bailey
Why's that?
Brayden Carter
Void Linux is probably the most obnoxiously hipster shit I've ever seen. Their homepage says "written from scratch" in three separate places, as if that's a good thing. They brag about "being the first" to abandon OpenSSL, where the only thing dumber than the decision itself is bragging about it. Their top "news" post is about My Little Pony.
alpine 4 life
Thomas Phillips
Because if it's a binary from your distro, it's already pre-compiled, making it so you can't configure it. distros really shouldn't package dwm.
Jaxon Butler
minimalism
Evan Long
> having to recompile an application to change its settings Is this for real?
Ayden Ortiz
>musl no
Isaiah Cruz
yes
Nolan Cook
Reposting Arch explanation
Arch has never been a minimalist distribution. Splitting packages is rare compared to other distributions, and dependencies aren't made optional whenever possible. Arch has *never* been minimalist... a Linux kernel with every module available and every feature enabled at least when there's no non-bloat related cost, feature-packed/complex GNU tools, nearly all optional features enabled across all the packages, etc.
>pacman is fast but not safe, it tends to break shit and config protection is implemented in a terrible way >there is no official process to verify that a package is stable within the distro, in other distros a lot of packages are in a testing repo despite that specific package's developer claiming it to be stable on its own, because it might not be stable within the environment of a specific distro >a lot of AUR packages pull from upstream, which means they could be very unstable >(arch vs gentoo related) arch users complain about muh compile time when it comes to gentoo, while in fact they compile a lot of AUR packages themselves, namely the *-git packages that pull the source from a git repo >but it gets even better: they only compile a handful of packages, and those not being libraries mostly, the self-compiled packages get linked against precompiled libraries from a different setup (e.g. different optimization levels), which can then cause even more instability because it's a clusterfuck of unequal shit >arch uses (((systemd))) and switching to something else is hard >apparently the vim package on arch pulls in X, so if you want to have a fancy terminal text editor on a headless server, you to install a shit ton of GUI stuff you'll never need nor use >maintainer told the guy who complained to just symlink vi to vim (vi is inferior)
Parker Phillips
I'd suggest not ricing dwm. I use vanilla dwm myself and it just works
The thing for me when it come to this is that I'm kinda disgusted by the amount of bloat in popular applications and environments.
Let's take the picture viewer as an example. What does it do? That's right! It views pictures! We have also seen picture viewers that can run with very tiny amounts of ram, and do their job pretty well. Why then should we be using a picture viewer that does the exact same practical thing as this minimal picture viewer, but is 10+ times heavier?
I've heard this a lot, the whole "lel just get a newer computer grandpa!" I'd like to let you know that I use minimal setups both on a 2012 Fagbook Pro, and a Xeon workstation being used as a desktop. Both of these have 16+ GB of memory. What you have to understand is that just because we have the resources, doesn't mean it's right to use them to the limit. Why should we artificially use more resources for the same tasks just because we have the capability to do it. That's retarded. At that point we should just rewrite the kernel in electron because clearly anyone who has a problem with that just needs to download more wam.
Another key component for me is that achieving a high level of minimalism often involves switching to a vey terminal-heavy lifestyle. This is good as it provides a universal interface. The interface used to shitpost, consume content, and whatnot, is the same interface that would be used when administering a server, when configuring my NAS, when working with Amazon EC2 installations, etc.
Why do you hate keeping things simple? Why do you want things to use more resources than they have to to complete their function?
Carson Adams
Settings are bloat, user
Eli Perez
But... I want it look cool :(
Jace Butler
no its optional they also tell u how much musl sucks >Some programs (mostly graphical applications) will work incorrectly, or segfault when run under musl. This may be due to programs expecting some glibc-specific behavior. >Also, some programs that rely on glibc-specific behavior cannot or at least have not been patched yet. musl hasn't yet implemented critical features. it needs more work.
Matthew Price
Just don't rice dwm. Why would you? If you are really really into the ricing cancer stick to i3 then
Parker Gutierrez
Everybody with a brain agrees with you user, but most of them just want to become career programmers at Apple, or Facebook where they can get a fat paycheck by continuing to destroy computing. I can't really blame them for that, desu, even though I hate it.
Jacob Perry
Well. follow that wiki guide. Not hard. Config.h is whe
Charles Reyes
then download and compile! even I can do it, uwu
Cameron Martin
Then use a wm for ricing
Mason Clark
config.h is where you change the "settings"
Owen Campbell
GNU's binary extensions aren't "critical behaviors" except for shitty programs. If firefox can work under musl, then other shit shouldn't have an excuse.
Jason Clark
>chain compile dependencies of dependencies of dependencies >at some point lost track of a few of them >repeat for months >system is full of orphan bloat how do i deal with this
Ian Hall
>alpine 4 life post your desktop user
Oliver Smith
fresh install (debian net iso)
Brandon Russell
So it looks like GNU themselves are making a distro It can be as minimal or bloat as u want, and has lots of Libre comfies gnu.org/software/guix/
Jaxon Parker
uwu fag, please use some other picture for OP image other than anime.
Jack Jones
i didn't make this one! if i did it would have been a boy
Wyatt Edwards
>call it just the “GNU operating system” but use Linux kernel instead of Hurd
Jacob Reyes
ok got you..Op pls use a different image next time
t. orginal founder of this general from the very beginning
Ian Sanchez
Anime website.
Joshua Adams
You need to slice your own neck, you disgusting gay pedophile.
Landon Evans
>OS FreeBSD (3+ years, same install, updated, compiling stuff everyday, not a single problem ever)
>DE/WM xmonad (5+ years, same install, not as pretty as windowmaker, but never failed, ever)
>Video/Music player mpv
>Image viewer just feh
>File Manager Dired for everything
>Text Editor emacs bloated (the hardest program to let go)
>Shell tcsh
>Web Browser firefox
>Terminal rxvt
Ryan Bailey
yeah GNUs gonna be GNU. But guess what? NO SYSTEMD!! they use their own Shepherd init, which is part of GNU project
Dominic Wright
no u
Brody Roberts
USE FLAGS WHEN!!
Jace Price
Should I also download dwmstatus myself or use a package manager.
Carson Garcia
get dwm from suckless u can trust them
Elijah Murphy
Just use a simple script. I just have time and date in my statusbar. Nothing else. If i want to check ram, hard drive space etc etc i use the terminal
this >tfw running a desktop with 8 core CPU and 32GB of RAM and using minimal tools which do their job well and dont eat a shit ton of resources feels good man
Xavier Price
yeah, you know that your precious computer isn't in a botnet or has bitcoin miners in the background
inb4 unused ram is wasted ram nigger why u care? lmao. I could have gpu passthrough and play gta 5
Connor White
yay u agree!
Lincoln Peterson
zlib vs libzf
Christian Martin
What's a minimalist program to block ads? I want something that can convert abp lists to host file
Carter Gomez
firefox with ublock cunt
Adrian Sanders
Why do people recommend cmus over mpd+ncmp?
Zachary Richardson
I want to jump firefox when ESR 52 dies
Jeremiah Foster
out of curiosity does that process still require some multiple monitor bullshit because I would love to do that shit
Evan Thompson
pretty much this "unused" ram isnt wasted anyway, it is used for disk caching when you dont need it for much and i frequently run virtual machines with high memory needs for my projects and testing shit, feels good to have all resources available for actually needed things i mainly don't aim for as lightweight and minimal as possible, i use minimal shit mostly because they do the job just as they should perfectly without extra shit i dont need i dont run plain i3 as my desktop because of its resource usage compared to major desktop environments, i use it because it works for my workflow very well and does stuff just like i want without useless bullshit, it just seems "minimal" stuff seems to do the job always the best for me
Charles Myers
> i frequently run virtual machines with high memory
this, i have dwm as my wm and do this.
Kayden Russell
Privoxy or Hostsblock
Why do people not just use MOC? Is by far better imho
Justin Price
Because suckless suggests it and it's way more /minimal/
Matthew Reed
Daily reminder that if you are literally starting out with gnu/linux, this thread isn't for you. Please go to the /fglt/ thread
Caleb Cook
They also recommend mpd
Jason Cox
so whats the most /minimal/ terminal that's wayland native?
Tyler Baker
Fuck off unfriendly cunt.
Carter Smith
THIS THIS THIS And is a polite warning so noobs dont get BTFO'd.
Jonathan Peterson
Reminder that if you want a bloat free system, install BSD.
Jace Allen
st is as minimal as you can get, but I don't know if its wayland compatible yet. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Andrew Murphy
They wouldn't understand this shit and it would overwhelming.
This thread is for anons who have bloated gnu/linux systems and are trying to debloat it.
Caleb Torres
no it's completely X based. I think it'd need to be COMPLETELY rewritten to be wayland native
Dylan Phillips
/thread
Alexander Ward
No, fuck off cucks.
Robert Kelly
>subject has gnu and linux >talks about bsd no nigger
Thomas White
...
Brandon Gray
theres this meme about unused ram being wasted but it really depends on how its used. if a program reserves shitloads of ram for no good reason then thats bad usage but if it uses unused ram for caching but keeps it available when needed then thats fine.
Lincoln Scott
Why do I keep seeing feh recommended over sxiv? I know feh do wallpapers but you may as well use xinitrc with imagemagick for that.
Isaiah Baker
why do you need an terminal that runs in x? just press ctrl alt f2 and use that instead of a bloated gui terminal emulator.
Landon Edwards
>why do you need an terminal that runs in x? So I can look cool in desktop threads
Aiden Jenkins
how are u supposed to interpret the shitty manpage for that? I cant find how to do that. feh is easy to use
Evan Lopez
feh can do both
Hudson Hernandez
No need for a manpage Then you just put the command on your xinirtc before starting the wm
Jacob Roberts
According to the arch linux wiki >Warning: Blocking advertisements can reduce anonymity, since it creates a unique browser signature. This should not be done when using tor or another proxy for anonymity. Is this true?
Set wallpaper resolution size. That line is the actual wallpaper setting, the rest are other things.
Matthew Johnson
Thats retarded, why would you want your desktop backround animated??
Just go with feh or xsetroot( solid colors only)
Logan Jenkins
yeah the site showed just said display -background *color* -backdrop *image* so do I need to put the resolution too? and what's window root? this is way too confusing
Connor Jones
Do you not understand browser fingerprints?
Robert Butler
I'm on mobile so i don't remember
xrdb -merge -I$HOME ~/.Xresources exec dwm feh wallpaper.jpg time and date for dwm status
Jordan Lewis
How would blocking ads via a web proxy increase fingerprint when ads are what fingerprints you?
Isaiah Anderson
Didn't know we're talking about desktops. Just thought he was looking for viewing.
Jaxon Wilson
>-background *color* -backdrop *image* No need for this part, I've never use it so idk. >what's window root? The root window is the desktop background, where the wallpapers go. In imagemagick you can put images on different windows but havent used others. Ignore what you dont need but remember, some DE fuck with your root window (blocking them) so uninstall DE if you have one.
Oliver Price
yeah we're talking about desktop backgrounds.
Landon Hernandez
So you don't understand browser fingerprints, cool.
Using addons that most people don't use will help to make you unique and therefore make you easier to track.
If 30% of people use Ublock, you are that much easier to track. If you then also have another addon together with ublock that only 5% use, then you are close to be unique.
And then comes browser settings.
The point is the more "common" your browser setup is, the easier it is to hide.
Easton Price
Well it's from the link that you sent me to I think i'm just gonna stick with using feh for wallpapers. ImageMagick is way too confusing