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Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
wiki.archlinux.org
wiki.gentoo.org

Sup Forums's Wiki on GNU/Linux: wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

>What distro should I choose?
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
>What are some cool programs?
wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page
>What are some cool terminal commands?
commandlinefu.com/
bropages.org/
>Where can I learn the command line?
mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
grymoire.com/Unix/
>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html
>How to break out of the botnet?
prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: /fglt/'s website and copypasta collection:
fglt.nl && p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy

Other urls found in this thread:

sourcemage.org/Spell/Book
pastebin.com/HKBAEZcL
pastebin.com/fs1ihsbc
xfce-look.org/
gnome-look.org/
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

Wizards assemble !

Advanced users of GNU/Linux (and I mean advanced), remember to try Source Mage GNU/Linux. True source-based distribution, and (in contrast with Gentoo and Arch) is:
Free from obfuscated and pre-configured code.
Fully committed to GPL, uses only free software (as in freedom) in their main package.
With even the documentation licensed as FDL.
Without 3rd party patches, sensible defaults or masked packages.
Doesn't need obfuscated python libraries, only bash.
Use clean dependencies as they came from upstream developers, which by the same provides instant updates.
Can heal broken installs.
Can also use flags.

Do you like Arch Linux's AUR? Do you like Gentoo's portage (or ports-like) package manager? With SMGL's "sorcery" you get all that. Making new spells (packages) not found in the grimoire (repository) is easy sourcemage.org/Spell/Book

Basic Source Mage GNU/Linux installation pastebin.com/HKBAEZcL
Improvised Source Mage GNU/Linux guide pastebin.com/fs1ihsbc

Is it safe to run docker as sudo? Or should I make new group for it?

Role playing this hard

im installing gentoo for the first time on an old laptop and im up to configuring the kernel, but im confused as to what sort of things should be compiled into the kernel and what should be loaded as a module -- any help?

also if i mess this up and forget a module or something that i need is it as easy as booting back into the livecd and mounting/chrooting the install and doing it again or do i have to start over?
should i just use genkernel instead of doing it manually?

why when I boot up linux does it give a red message about sysv, on fedora

Most drivers can be loaded from files. The only ones that really need to built in is what is required to bring up your system to the point where it can load modules from disk.

The important one to remember is your root filesystem(e.g. ext4) must be built into the kernel if you don't use an initramfs, without that driver it can't read the disk to load more modules.

If you use an initramfs you need support for that built into the kernel, then initrd can load your ext4 driver module. Unlike ext4 I don't think this one even gives you the option to build as a module.

also yeah, if you mess up you can chroot back into your system to fix it.

What permissions does the user "sudo" have?

Jesus fucking Christ I wanna punch him in the face.

That sounds quite harmful.

Too bad I'll never be able to.

What's the sanest way to encrypt an external hard drive?

luks

I'll look forward into it, thanks.

you mean you'll luks forward to it

got it, thanks

Anyone is using icecat here?
I'm trying to compile it but I get error message that pango is missing, but I have it...
openSUSE

LUKS or VeraCrypt if you want to use it on other platforms.

I want to use Linux instead of Win10
Which distro should I use?

Ubuntu or LinuxMint?

Which desktop environment?
Personally i like KDE Plasma and Gnome.

Should be user-friendly because im a fucking noob

mint is pretty good but id recommend ubuntu because its packages are more up to date
...unless you want to use the cinnamon DE, in which case mint is probably the better choice since cinnamon is the brainchild of the mint devs and it was made for mint originally

id recommend cinnamon as the DE - it feels the most 'at home' to people coming from windows in my experience - but kde and xfce are good picks too.
xfce is a bit more barebones than kde and cinnamon but it performs really well and doesnt use much system resources, its also really modular and lets you swap out the WM and compositor really easily. i personally dont like kde at all but lots of people swear by it
ubuntu has official xfce and kde "flavours" called xubuntu and kubuntu respectively, but as far as i know it doesnt have an official cinnamon flavour (which is why i recommend mint if you want cinnamon)

both distros are just as user-friendly as each other, they are both distros that just work

honestly your best bet is to download both and install them on a VM and have a play with the DEs for yourself and make your own choice

also people might tell you to not bother with mint and just install cinnamon on ubuntu if you want cinnamon but since you're a complete newbie its a lot easier just to get a distro with the DE you want preinstalled and preconfigured rather than getting a distro with some other DE, faffing about removing it and all its related packages, then installing and configuring the DE you want

Does user-friendly linux with normal UI even exist?
inb4: config.conf is not the normal UI for desktop

what do you mean by normal ui? all of the popular DEs apart from gnome are normal uis...

So, you say, that KDE is ok?

its not my favourite by a long shot but it seems pretty normal and user-friendly to me

So, I decided to try GNU/Linux, because shitty Intel CPUs are buggy, and Windows updating majority of time, not working....

But which distribution should I try first? Tell me about these:
>Ubuntu
Debian for retards, right?
>Debian
Ubuntu for not-retarded persons?
>Arch
Do it yourself?
>Gentoo
Compile it yourself?
>Fedora
Free beta-tester for RedHat?
>openSUSE
What is it?
>Void
WTF is it?

Is there a ricing script for Arch?

>Ubuntu
16.04 and below is pretty decent, not a lightweight distro though
>Debian
Most sensible choice for most users, the testing version that is.
Not very hard to install now that there is a gui installer and discs with non-free firmware for wifi cards.
>Arch
Bloated unstable bullshit that breaks most of the time
>Gentoo
For squeezing that extra performance out of an old system or getting the most utmost customization out of your system.
Best systemd-free distro imo.
>Fedora
Last time i used it was quite buggy and slow, also might have a redhat botnet
>openSUSE
for for servers and cloud as they got excellent features like live kernel updates so you can update/patch the kernel without rebooting.
Not a good desktop distro though because of bloat.
>Void
Another popular systemd-free distro however it uses binary packages unlike gentoo.
Quite a nice distro actually, doesn't have a lot of packages though and uses a very odd init system.

LARBS

No, if you're ricing for internet points end your life, ricing is supposed to be personalize the shit out of your graphical enviroment to make it fit your needs, not about i3+loli, that's why those threads get purged for a while every now and then.

How it takes to compile whole Linux kernel on Core 2 Duo @ 2 GHz?

Id say about 30 minutes, 15 if you compile the bare minimum needed for your system.

Which GNU/Linux distro does he use?

Is Xubuntu a harmful distro?

Wrong Linus. I meant this one

Xubuntu is OK.
XFCE is the best DE in fact, because it doesn't have gimmicks, and yet it doesn't look like shit if properly riced.

Not but it is very unsupported and lackluster.

Thanks! What do you mean by "properly riced?"

Unsupported? In what regards?

Aaaaaand emerge failed again, i guess im too stupid for gen2. Back to arch ;_;

>"properly riced?"
Stock theme looks like it is from 2002...
Some people recommend Arc-theme, but I found myself more comfortable with stock one...

I'm tired of fixing arch and want to move over to another distro. I was thinking debian testing since we use debian at work and I want some of the latest and greatest. What's a distro that just werks?

he uses fedora

Xubuntu

compiling my kernel now on a core 2 duo 1.6ghz, ill report back soon
i dont have every module enabled though, just the ones i think i will need

Xubuntu, Lubuntu...
They just werk

If you use debian at work then pick one of deb based distros for desktop. I would recommend debian testing or ubuntu (personally I prefer ubuntu mate or kubuntu).
Also you can install ubuntu from netinst iso like you would probably do with debian.

Genkernel/allyesconfig/allmodconfig: give up
Defconfig or a kernel set up for one machine: under an hour

>openSUSE
Why not just use the binaries provided by FSF?

apt, apt-get, aptitude....

Fight!

emerge

No

isnt apt just another frontend for the apt-* commands? i was under the impression they were the exact same thing

this

You should go back, you'll be happier

No

>What's a distro that just werks?
Arch

Is debian testing a pita to keep working? I dig the minimalist approach to Linux but I know hate how everything breaks

How do I change my lockscreen in cinnamon? I found a weird solution where I link xscreensaver to cinnamon-screensave-command to replace it, but that doesn't seem like a clean solution to me. I'd like the screensaver to use my lightdm greeter if possible, invoked by the command 'dm-tool lock'. Is this possible somehow?

My broken system says otherwise

debian testing is stable
debian isnt minimalist. netinst is close i guess but systemd is bloat

Your fault.

Debian testing is ok for daily use. Debian sid is something that you should avoid because it breaks frequently.
Let me give you a concept of debian tree:
- sid - packages end up here after release
- testing - they pass tests in sid and goes here, somewhat stable and ready to go
- stable - stuff just works, ready for production services

it took 35 minutes to compile on the 1.6ghz core2duo

>Debian sid is something that you should avoid because it breaks frequently.
sid user here, that's my friend is bullshit.

>sid - packages end up here after release
Except that's wrong. packages get into "experimental" and after some testing from there, they make it into sid.

pic related, (You) when making that post.

Oh, I meant experimental, I forgot about that, sorry.
Avoid experimental. Sid is ok if you know what are you doing.

How the fuck do I get dual monitors to work properly in Arch? I installed Antergos which worked on both my laptop's display and an external display just fine (after running xrandr). Then I started to notice screen tearing, so I looked into installing some nvidia drivers. I used the nvidia-installer script in the Antergos repo, rebooted, and now it sees the external display but not my laptop display. I uninstalled the nvidia drivers, and now my Intel (mesa driver) wasn't showing my laptop display either. I decided that one working display is fine for now, so I reran the nvidia installer script. I'm trying to troubleshoot this, but there is not xorg.conf, only xorg.conf.d and an nvidia.conf inside. Where the fuck do I even begin with this? I'm using kde5 plasma if that matters

Welcome to the wonderful world of Linux!

>nvidia
GFY. Do not use the N word in /fglt/. You're not welcome here.

I'm using a ThinkPad, blame Lenovo not me

>You're not welcome here.
We are an inclusive community here, please stop spreading toxicity.

STFU, talking about nVidia is absolutely not friendly. Buying nVidia is giving money to the enemies, and traitors are traitors. A slave got a nVidia card, and got pb with GNU/Linux. It's the slave fault, the freemen OS doesn't have to support slave.

You aren't being very friendly right now...

Being "friendly" with your enemy is not friendly, it's stupid.

>being friendly isn't friendly
You can be friendly with your "enemy".

GFY

You are very hostile. I'm trying to be friendly to you but you make it very difficult.

How do i change that weird gradient behind the toolbar?
Kubuntu 16.04 btw.

nVidia word should be banned on that thread. It's a free men thread, slaves, and those who support them, are not welcome.

Free men are allowed to use whatever GPU they want, not just the one you approve of.

STFU filthy slave.

You are trying my patience.

bla bla bla

Try different LO backends like the GTK3 one.

does xfce come with a browser?? I literally just installed xfce on a fresh install and have no browser installed

I don't know what that means

No it does not

thanks
also any way to make xfce not look like it's from the 90s?

After following the advice someone gave for my exact problem, for my exact model ThinkPad, I somehow managed to break things even more. Now I can only use terminal on my laptop display by pressing ctrl+alt+f2 on startup. HAHA IM HAVING FUN

xfce-look.org/
gnome-look.org/

Is 3d acceleration really something impossible on Nouveau?

I'm running void linux and this shitty nouveau drivers can't even run a visual novel without dropping fps. Why is nouveau so fucking bad?

>xfce last updated February of 2015
Why?

Nvidiva external displays are broken on arch. I think the only way to make things work is use integrated

I'm an artist that is sick of windows and considering a move to Linux. All my software has native Linux versions except for Zbrush, which is crucial to my workflow and livelihood. From what research I have done it does not appear that Zbrush can be made to run natively on Linux through Wine. Would running Zbrush through a VM be ok? or would performance degrade too seriously for professional work?

Hmm, I think if you render stuff from Zbrush that uses the GPU. I fear performance will be significantly decreased unless you use GPU pass through with an extra GPU.

Yes, usually VR graphics performance sucks. However, you can set up something called PCIe passthrough on KVM (Qemu) and some other VMs (I think VMWare and Xen). It requires two GPUs, one of which can be integrated. It's not easy to achieve, though. Another option is enabling the experimental Intel GPU virtualization stuff in the kernel and researching how to set it up.

I think my neighbor may be a terrorists from pakistan, so I want to start capturing his packets to analyze. My plan for now is to just use Kali because of the tools it comes with. Is there a better distro I can use?

Meant "VM", not "VR", oops.

I am having some trouble making a launcher. I think it is because I am using piping to launch the script.
[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Type=Application
Terminal=false
Icon[en_US]=city
Name[en_US]=Cities Skylines
Exec=/home/spaghetti/Documents/Downloads/Games/Cities.Skylines.Linux-ACTiVATED/Cities.Skylines && /run_game.sh
Name=Cities Skylines
Icon=city

Is anyone familiar with a screenshot tool that can take screenshots and do simple edits, like invert colors and turn to grayscale in bulk, like Shutter does?