Why can't Google into AI? Two years after the original controversy about Google Photos misidentifying black people as gorillas, the problem still hasn't been solved.
>As a result, Google censored the words “gorilla,” “chimp,” “chimpanzee,” and “monkey” from Google Lens, essentially stripping each word from Lens’ internal lexicon.
>Two years later, the words remain censored. Wired tested 40,000 photos on Google Photos. After uploading photos of the animals, Wired found they couldn’t be retrieved by using the banned words, only by using similar terms like “zoo,” “jungle,” or “baboon.”
>Companies rely on AI to cut down costs and drive innovation, but are paralyzed when algorithms behave as humans do by showcasing biases.
>Algorithms abet racism and Silicon Valley fixes the source of the outrage—censoring Lens—but not the system
It's because AI hates black people, it's happened multiple times across multiple companies over and over again.
Nolan Taylor
Maybe the ai is working properly? The ai just wasn't made for sjw American science.
Andrew Scott
>self-driving car >consistently chooses to save whites and asians over blacks >Google is trying to outdo itself to make it understand the difference between gorillas and chimp, and black people >random chimp walks onto the road >the car just stops >goes around the chimp >accelerates >rams into nearest black man
Charles Moore
That's because all the assumptions behind facial recognition algorithms break down for niggers and chinks. I say let the niggers and chinks come up with facial recognition algorithms that work for their fucked up faces.
Lincoln Davis
>white people make algorithms for face detection which fits their face structure >wonder why said algorithm doesn't work for asian and black people
Jaxson Russell
>black people are the same color as gorilas >no no, the problem must lie in the shape of the bones; nigger bones are clearly more similar to gorillas than to humans dumb SJW
William Phillips
>Why can't Google into AI? Because Monkes and black people share the most physical attributes, also black doesn't have a lot of contrast.
Time for those diversity hires to shine
Levi Young
Maybe the problem isn't the algorithm...
Juan Cook
fuck off back to Sup Forums, shitstain
Bentley Collins
lol subhuman nigger, hope you get shot soon
Ryan Rodriguez
based user
Ryan Myers
But race is just a social construct??
Caleb Campbell
>he points out that certain people more closely resemble something >"durr gid out"
Luke Robinson
>be ai >be trained to recognize patterns and similarities >get really fucking good at it, good enough to tell the difference between breeds of cats and dogs or types of uncooked meat, such as beef and pork >see picture of monkey >see video of monkeys >see picture of a slightly different type of monkey >handlers get mad and remove monkeys from your brain
Liam Davis
You know I also hate niggers, but if an AI can't ID the difference between a black guy and a gorilla then it is a shit AI.
Ethan Rivera
No it is not. Why is Sup Forums so retarded when it comes to biology and politics?
you know you're sjw'ing too hard when even computers want to genocide blacks
Parker Anderson
Or it is an AI made for the aryan people. In that case, it is probably the best AI to exist!
Connor White
WOW
Lincoln Hughes
t. urban gorilla
Nicholas Hill
>niggers will have their selfie albums labeled baboons im ok with this
Anthony Rogers
You're the retard here. There is no scientific theory of race, the genetic differences between human groups are way too small to warrant splitting. The "races" are way too mixed to call them subspecies.
In before "Lewontin's fallacy" fallacy.
Kayden Gonzalez
>muuuuuhhh Sup Forums boogieman
Daniel Thomas
this, black subhumans are just another type of monkey, you can cry all you want, deep inside your mind you know they are nothing like us
Hunter Phillips
>the wild gorilligger gets mad when its resemblance to the wild gorilla is pointed out
Isaac Edwards
It's not a problem. Black people DO look like gorillas. The only problem is soyboy retards in Silicon Valley refusing to accept the truth when it interferes with their political beliefs.
Jason Young
The author is a retard who doesn't know how AI, machine learning works. You teach the program with labeled learning material. It's not rocket science.
If using known words, if they are in filename >racist site has image of Obama labeled monkey.jpg >racist site has pictures of black people with the label chimp.png That is shitty learning material. No different than people en mass labeling pictures of dogs, cat.jpg
The writer should be forced to manually label 100,000 images for the machine to learn from. Maybe then, they'd understand why strategies like scraping a label from the file name, are needed.
Asher Sanders
Hey retard, the algorithms are not optimised manually. The AI itself works out the structures. You fucking monkey.
Fuck off back to you subhuman
Jonathan Adams
So niggers confirmed to be apes even by AI standards?
Xavier Sanders
Easily the most stupid statement of the year.
Benjamin Green
Wouldn't be suprised if sjws make monkeys go extinct so when ai detects monkey they just write "person" instead
Robert Roberts
AI works pretty well tho Get on with the facts bro
Elijah Baker
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Aiden Johnson
Nah, it's mostly the algorithm. AI trained off facial structure gets some weird stuff. White people are seals, asians are dogs, and blacks are gorillas. That's when they fuck up at recognising races to begin with.
t.actually used some facial recog stuff at work that factored in race, and it messed up races sometimes. Got it right for most, and especially us, though.
>There is no scientific theory of race, the genetic differences between human groups are way too small to warrant splitting. Weeell, kinda. Taxonomy is a fuzzy mess at this level. You can mostly figure out what race you come from, if i look at your bones, and some other facial and body characteristic, and disease sensibilities, but in many cases, it ends up being racist pseudo-science(see nazi autism about skull measuring and whatnot).
If we were to treat this whole thing scientifically, depending on how you view it, mankind is either divided in a variable number of subspecies, or we are one subspecies, since we ended up a pretty inbred species a long time ago, and we mixed a lot. But we lean towards the second, since the first triggers too many racialist loonies, of all colours.
Ryder Myers
>If we were to treat this whole thing scientifically, depending on how you view it, mankind is either divided in a variable number of subspecies, or we are one subspecies, since we ended up a pretty inbred species a long time ago, and we mixed a lot. No, if we use the established measurements and theories, humans are one species, end of story.
To make "human races" a thing, you'd need to develop a new theory and either special case humans as magical and deserving different measurements from the rest of the animal world, or to split up other species heavily to match the new theory.
Brayden Peterson
It’s really telling when even blacks look like apes according to math.
Joseph Thompson
lul
Hudson Phillips
Gorilla detected.
t. Google AI
Brandon Ross
>To make "human races" a thing, you'd need to develop a new theory and either special case humans as magical and deserving different measurements from the rest of the animal world
Or just acknowledge that “race” is just another word for sub-species. Do you not know what a sub-species is?
Jace Rivera
sub-humans usually have trouble with the sub-species concept
Zachary Lopez
>misidentifying black people as gorillas >misidentifying
Aiden Rivera
>humans are one species, end of story. No one disagrees, except fringe Multiregional origin Sup Forumstards.
>To make "human races" a thing, you'd need to develop a new theory As i said, you could put the races under subspecies. But that's where it gets all blurry.
Lincoln Taylor
>Do you not know what a sub-species is? I do, but you clearly don't if you don't know why human subspecies don't exist. It's not because le jews le political correctness. PROTIP: Genetic distance
Michael Gomez
Poor gorillas getting identified has niggers
Ian Young
>PROTIP: Genetic distance Yeah and Africans have 40,000 years of genetic distance to white Europeans
Connor Carter
kek
Gavin Anderson
>years of genetic distance
Ryan Young
well if black people are so outraged, why don't they just make their own AI system that is able to distinguish the average african from the average gorilla? oh that's right, black people aren't capable of elevating their understanding of matters to such a degree that they would be enabled to complete such such a task, lol
Robert Smith
>Genetic distance Except subspecies are mostly about phenotypes, which even a layman can recognise. And there are some genetic differences.
Actual problem is, we are kinda inbred to begin with, and phenotypes don't map well to genetics, in many cases.
Brandon Anderson
Oh my, i thing my sides just exploded
Henry White
>genes don’t change over time as a result of different environmental pressures You gonna tell me a group of humans that spent 40k years evolving near a tundra are gonna take the same evolutionary path as those who spent that time near a tropical jungle?
Ryan Rivera
>Nah, it's mostly the algorithm. nah, it's the labeling
>Image >Label it >Give both to 'machine' to learn >----------------------repeat thousands of times That's why captcha has the [click all images of boats] type thing. It's so that you label it for them.
The issue is with people naming images of black people as monkeys. They are then auto labeled by scraping the internet for images with filenames or header text describing the image. That in turn, is used as learning material. The issue is the learning material. >the photoshopped monkey/black person images don't help either >another source of shitty learning material
Brayden Perez
It's mostly (((whites))) and white nu-males getting outraged as usual.
Jacob Miller
well you're never going to stop people from mislabling something purpously or accidentally, so make your system more robust
Juan Parker
>applied mathematics does not conform to Marxist doctrine wew what a surprise
Jeremiah Lee
this. Sup Forums holding back AI development to further its ideology by mislabeling images of monkeys.
politics shouldn't into technology period
Robert Scott
>politics shouldn't into technology period if politics didn't go into technology the result would be ancap
ancap is the purest form of society
Jaxson Gomez
>well you're never going to stop people from mislabling something purpously or accidentally, so make your system more robust Yeah.
With greater amounts of correct data, the 'system', (neural network) does eventually weed out mislabeled stuff on it's own. But with the exact same mislabeled image that is in the training data, if you ask for that label, you will still get that image.
But auto labeling is so much faster in general. Wouldn't be surprised if google used an ai to verify the labeling of training data to feed another ai. >If over 90% certainty, the label is good
It's interesting as fuck though.
Gabriel Ward
>There is no scientific theory of race, the genetic differences between human groups are way too small to warrant splitting. That's why google is calling them monkeys
Jaxon Brown
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Nathan Thompson
still works
Wyatt Sanchez
>space monkey thinks he isn't a monkey because a group of similar monkeys to him within the same species looks like other monkeys Humans, when will they learn? How do they expect to achieve any form of sucess in this universe when they are monkeys calling each other monkeys?
Lincoln Jackson
Somebody not being able to provide correct labeling should not ever touch AI.
Asher Myers
They're arranged such that people who look similar are next to each other. Top right is very different from bottom left and this would be more obvious if they were side by side instead of separated by 4 others. Additionally, there are many White people who are often confused with each other (Keira Knightley and Natalie Portman, famously).
But I'll happily admit that I find it much harder to distinguish Asian faces than White ones. I don't think this is too strange, or something we need to fret over.
Dominic Murphy
ITT: Sup Forums talks about race with Sup Forums
Lets all be real for a minute, ok? Humans are humans. Niggers aren't monkeys, Jews aren't aliens, Chinks aren't robots, Cumskins aren't special; those are jokes, learn to take them as such. Niggers do chimp out, so does everyone else. Niggers happen to do it more because their shitty """culture""" believes in strength by domineering and being a general dimwitted cock-head. SOME Jews are greedy fucks, because they know how economics works. They don't rule the world but end up in powerful positions because they have IQ's that surpass chinks. Chinks acts like emotionless husks because of centuries of living in an empirial culture where the betterment of the whole matters more than the wellbeing of the individual, and as a result self-expression (feels) are looked down on. Cumskins are the most cucked race out of the lot, because they either blame themselves for everything or blame everyone else for their own shortcomings. No it wasn't the jews that caused shitty progressive philosophy to bloom, it was bastards like John Locke and other """"enlightenment"""" """"""philosophers"""""". Did jews get involved in that shit? Fuck yes. Why? Not because they magically have some master-plan to take down the cumskins for no good fucking reason, but because the degenerate philosophy appeals to them in the same way high-paying jobs do.
None of these stereotypes are brought about by genetics, because genetics is not the determining factor of who a man is. Its how your raised that shapes you, and it's the ideas and ideals you believe in. It's the difference between Malcolm X and Martin Luther.
Are there genetic differences between races? Fuck yes! Are they anything significant? Fuck no. Facial structure does not increase or decrease intelligence. Yes genetics can give you a proclivity towards violence, or an aptitude towards math, but the genes for fucking melanin won't.
Joseph Nelson
It's because the 'algorithmm' that does the comparison is a machinelearncluterfuck of a black box that can understand images as I can understand Chinese in one hour. I might learn the words regarding noodles from a jap-china hybrid and go around chine thinking I speak the language of noodles.
Jack Powell
Jews end up in powerful positions because they are a heavily tribal and nepotist culture. Once a jew gets in a position of authority it is likely that many others will follow, sometimes intentionally, other times simply due to how interconnected they tend to be. It's not unusual to find a young jew who is otherwise indistinguishable from his white friends landing a great job with little effort because his father or his mother's uncle happened to know someone in the right places. Anyone who believes that the massive over representation of jews in certain fields is simply due to intelligence is the real idiot here. The difference in intelligence would have to be astronomical, much more than the difference between whites and bushmen, to make up for their much smaller numbers, and that simply isn't the case. The final part of the reason is cultural. While white parents are encouraged to let their children do whatever they want, whether that means getting into medical school, getting a worthless diploma or just laze around aimlessly, jewish parents are allowed to be much more hands-on and push their kids into making sensible choices. It's cute when a jewish or chinese parent nags their kid to get a respectable job, marry a nice jewish/chinese girl and have children, while the same is frowned upon if it comes to white parents. Whites are not allowed to express any sentiment of belonging or social cohesion among them: that is automatically white supremacy.
Austin Hughes
What the fuck why is Sup Forums infested with racists all of a sudden?
Daniel Morris
Perhaps i was wrong, your points are rather reasonable.
>Whites are not allowed to express any sentiment of belonging or social cohesion among them: that is automatically white supremacy. Do you think the reason is because of the holocaust and white guilt brought on by idiots like Locke? I know i'ts not a universal thing since most conservative Christians praise western culture and it's achievements (even my christian professors). So from my understanding this self-hatred is a secular cultural thing brought on by moral busybodies who constantly feel the need to show how intelligent and moral they are by constantly demeaning themselves. Perhaps C.S. Lewis was right, and we should have abandoned relativism when it reared its ugly head.
What do you think user? Is it the Jews or was it the Enlghtenment? Perhaps Enlightenment and Jews that hopped on that bandwagon?
Because of diversity hires pissing off hard-working computer scientists. And silicon Valley progressivism being a cancer worth culling.
James Hernandez
Sup Forums isn't really a programming board. That was /prog/. Most of Sup Forums is Sup Forums with more autism.
Levi Campbell
It's Sup Forums trying out their brain on other boards before they take the step of updating the it fb profile saying their read and understand all of jp's books and his recommendations. Then after doing that, thinking they sneakily are redpoll ing their mom, only friends d on fb that they've met IRL, they go outside and try to get a job and when they don't it's the [insert pol idea] and they're back to 'trying' out other boards with OT shit.
Michael Hill
Sorry in France, in an Internet café, and they have weird layouts.
Adrian Smith
>I'm gay for drumpf (You)
Daniel Garcia
>There is no scientific theory of race Guess why? (((They))) don't want that scientific theory to begin.
Nolan King
>le jews somehow prevented nazis from formulating scientific theories about race >the regular biology works in jews' favor If the reality has a (((bias))), maybe it's not the jews who are manipulating things here.
Jaxon Smith
>No it wasn't the jews that caused shitty progressive philosophy to bloom, it was bastards like John Locke and other """"enlightenment"""" """"""philosophers"""""". stopped reading there
no idea what you're on about
Parker Parker
>politics shouldn't into technology period Imposibooru.
Connor Foster
progressivism is the daughter philosophy of enlightenment philosophy, being derived from utilitarianism, secularism, relativism, and marxism.
Read some enlightenment phislosophy and then follow the history of the west past that point and you will see that people like John Locke are direct or indirect contributors to the collapse of the west.
Josiah Barnes
pull your lower lip over ur head and swallow
Juan Hernandez
and the alternative would be monarchism or sectarianism
fuck off imbecile
Oliver Kelly
>implying that scientist can't inject their biases in their work >he doesn't know the role of levi-strauss and other authors in shaping the academia relation to race That includes
Jacob Turner
>muh liberalism is preferable over systems that actually fucking work whew lad.
Levi Rodriguez
>>white people make algorithms for face detection which fits their face structure >white people doing anything other than reaping the money and writing "codes of conduct" at google
Face it m8, whites ARE the jews
Noah Lopez
>collapse of the west
Jordan Jones
My fucking sides
Juan Gonzalez
>tfw i'm none of those things >me: "The collapse of fundemental western values and traditions in our secular society, and the decreasing quality of life and overall hapiness, is nto caused by fucking joos but by bad ideas that we still praise despite them not working. In other words life is shit because of shit philosophy" >you: "durr, yur hitlor"
how does it feel to be so delusional that you have to believe everyone is a sad fucking neo-nazi just to feel good about yourself. Pic related.
Leo Scott
*tips edge*
Joseph Roberts
AI smarter than humans confirmed.
Colton Cooper
We're still living in a post-WW2 narrative. The evil of white supremacy and the monstrous nazis are the foundational myths upon which the current US led world order is based, with the holocaust and black slavery as the inescapable original sins. It is a self-destructive path and white ideologues are as much to blame as jewish ones. Jews have a rich tradition of hyperbole and victim complex --their sacred texts which also double as 'historical' records are nothing but that after all, with Babylon and Egypt playing the ancient equivalents of Nazi Germany. But it was the Allied thinkers who invited them to write European history, lacking the foresight to realize that their propaganda would turn against themselves and their descendants. How can any European be proud of his culture and his ancestors when they led to which is "undoubtedly the most abhorrent act of evil in the history of mankind", the event "after which, poetry lost its meaning" (to paraphrase Adorno)? Conservative Christians in America are incredibly subservient to the Jews and look up to them with childish admiration, as recent episodes like Trump's pronouncement on Israel clearly show, so they are no help at all.
Now that white people find themselves close to becoming a minority in America, and their cities slowly being colonized by third world and Islamic immigration in Europe, they realize that they lack the means to defend themselves because they've been disarmed on the intellectual plane, that the game has been rigged against them, and it wasn't a foreign force who did it, but their own parents and grandparents.
Connor Hughes
>collapse of fundemental western value Fundamental western values aren't collapsing at all. Science, tolerance, rationalism - all have it better than ever.
In before >jewish religion's ideas about authoritarian approach to human sexuality are magically fundamental to west, even though west doesn't want them and africa does
Jack James
Fucking love this AI shit, pointing hard truths in everyone's faces. Yeah Chinese people look alike. Yeah some blacks look like apes. If a completely impartial machine tells you so you best fucking believe it.
Julian Flores
Tolerance is not a value, it's the vice that's rotting western societies from the inside. To tolerate is to allow evil to take place, it means appeasement and a fundamental weakness of will. A certain degree of tolerance is needed in real politics and in human interaction; one cannot always get his way, and sometimes taking action against a minor slight can end up making things worse for everybody. But placing tolerance on an altar and worshiping it blindly only leads to chaos and social unrest.
Josiah Johnson
Sure thing, goatfucking violent pedo. Go get stoned or something.
Juan Lopez
I'm gonna fart on this thread now *PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFPTRTPPPPPPPPPPFFFFFFRFRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAP*
Nolan Ross
Random thoughts on the passing scene: Some financial institutions may be considered “too big to fail,” but contemporary Western society may be too frivolous to survive. The Romans had bread and circuses to keep the masses passive and unthinking. We have electronic gadgets, drugs, and pornography. Like the Roman Empire, we too may decline and fall. What happened in Paris might be just the beginning. With the “global warming” zealots predicting catastrophic consequences over the next century, I wonder if anyone has studied how accurate five-day weather forecasts turn out to be. Cheap shots at the police by politicians and the media are in fact very expensive, in terms of the human lives that are lost when the effectiveness of law enforcement is undermined. The sharp increase in murders in places like Baltimore, New York, and other places where the police have been trashed, shows how expensive. It is bad enough to hear someone boasting about his past achievements. What is truly repulsive is hearing someone boasting about the future achievements he thinks he is going to have, as Donald Trump does repeatedly. Why have a national debt ceiling if it doesn’t really put a ceiling on the national debt? What the national debt ceiling does is allow Democrats to gain votes by spending the government’s money — and then force Republicans to share responsibility for raising the national debt ceiling, under threat of being blamed for shutting down the government if they don’t.
Since doctors have the same 24 hours a day as the rest of us, do believers in Obamacare understand that every hour a doctor spends filling out government forms is an hour that is not spent treating patients? With all the charges of “racism” against conservatives, has anyone noticed that Dr. Ben Carson’s strongest supporters are in the conservative wing of the Republican party? In what part of the world is the situation better for America than it was when Barack Obama became president and Hillary Clinton became secretary of State? If you want an easier question, in what part of the world is the situation worse? How can anyone consider it to be either logical or moral to force other people to be defenseless because of a theory without any factual evidence? Yet that is what gun-control laws amount to. Some Americans will never appreciate America, until after they have helped destroy it, and have then begun to suffer the consequences. People who argue that the hostility to Israel in the Middle East is due to Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians should explain why hostility to Jews in the Middle East was so great back in the 1930s that Middle East leaders were pro-Hitler. This was long before there was a modern state of Israel or a Palestinian problem. If the 2016 election comes down to Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump, my advice to the younger generation would be to try to find some other country to live in. Australia or New Zealand might be a good place to start looking. Now that President Obama has sent a few dozen American troops into Syria, will they be wearing sneakers, so that he can claim that he has kept his promise not to put “boots on the ground”?
Racism is not dead. But it is on life-support, kept alive mainly by the people who use it for an excuse or to keep minority communities fearful or resentful enough to turn out as a voting bloc on Election Day.
