If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >G4560/G4600 - non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 1200 - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming (especially the i5 8400) or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 1600) >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Consider Vega 56 for a Freesync monitor >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200 >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
Why are gpu prices cranking up like never before? I shit you not, I saw a normal gtx 1080 on amazon for like $800
Jace Reed
>gpu prices because of crypto-currencies like bitcoin
Levi Martin
Read the OP.
Dylan Baker
reminder that you should consider a gaming laptop instead
Landon Johnson
Anime.
Wyatt Allen
>literally just going to swap out mobo, ram, and CPU >already know everything I want >have to wait 3 months for the CPU and mobo to be available for purchase
Levi Reed
I really want to get a 1080ti but the prices are too damn high
should I get a [spoiler]titan xp[/spoiler] instead?
Carter Scott
>laptops that aren't thinkpads >in 2018
Kayden Hernandez
What brand of electrical contact grease do you use on your builds, /pcbg/?
Andrew Young
It's not because of bitcoin, nobody mines bitcoin with GPUs, bitcoin mining is all warehouses full of ASICs next to a power plant with cheap electricity.
GPU prices are crazy because of alt coins, the shit you can still mine on GPUs - Ethereum, Monero etc.
Cameron Long
Should I 2 GTX 1050ti for mining purposes? 1060's are overpriced and after doing the math it's roughly the same cost to buy 2 1050ti's than a 1060 and it will generate a higher hash rate
Parker Green
What kind of alt coin do you plan to mine?
Nicholas Gonzalez
a nice cheap and good looking case for micro atx motherboard i am thinking about making two small systems one with micro and one with mini atx MB i have chosen Fractal desing core 500 for mini itx corsair 380 looks cool but i want CHEAP one any help ? i am not going to use liquid cooling
Matthew Thomas
Which coffee lake CPU for price and performance should I buy as well as which GPU?
Thomas Torres
Nice joke. When they come out with a laptop with modular GPUs let me know
i5 8400. Graphics card is completely dependent on pricing. Technically the 4GB full 560 is probably the best price/perf, but it's a low end card.
Evan Wood
What's a good case to recommend within the mid atx to full atx range? Budget is 60 to 80 dollars Something that doesn't have a full tempered glass panel and much rather a window. Call me autistic but I just don't like the aesthetic of tempered glass panels. This just to upgrade my current case of my CM HAF X
Benjamin Jones
Thanks for the reply, I was thinking about the i5 -8600K and overclocking it. It's $259 on amazon.
Samuel Ward
This is now a Shad thread.
Dylan Adams
Etherium. But I might use miningpoolhub and mine what ever produced the most profit
Hudson Campbell
Since cryptoniggers have jewed GPU prices into oblivion, would 2x 980ti be a substantial upgrade over an R9 290x?
Andrew Morgan
the absolute state of building a PC right now
> memory expensive cuz (((floods))) and phones [normies] > consequently, price is way up for SSDs too > fucking GPUs are kill as well because of normies trying to mine shitcoins and do ML to figure out how gay their face looks
I want altcoins to die so fucking bad, crypto was a mistake
Parker Roberts
so, G4560 still worthy for a budjewt build?
John Perry
Because the intel shills keep hijacking the op
Luis Turner
no
Jaxon Baker
The only reasonably priced 16GB RAM @ 3200 i could find is Gskill Ripjaws V, but they are made in 2015. Should I just pay 45 more Euros and get the TridentZ RGB ones? I don't care about aesthetics, I just dont wanna risk having to change ram again next year.
Before you reply and suggest Corsair, i'm not buying from them again. They have failed me way too many times and I can't ignore my confirmation bias this time.
Matthew Thomas
Maybe, if you can find it for 60 dollans
Charles Morales
why. What's the alternative that is not priced twice as much Fucking cryptos
Lucas Powell
2200G when it comes out next month
Logan Powell
Avoid Intel processors at all costs.
Aaron Nelson
No.
Jackson Jones
this, the 2200g is going to be fucking godly for cheap budget builds
Jeremiah Collins
So ram will not come down and now GPUs are going up insanely. Is this a bad time to try to build or will it just get worse?
David Perry
I'm just gonna buy my PS4 before miners figure out some way to make it profitable to mine on a PS4 and shit on that too
Dylan Young
I just lost a ram stick and now I wanna go from 2 (1) 4's to 2 8's, can any RAM stick fit in my motherboard's slots? Also which ones should I buy. It's an alienware X51 R2 my dad bought for me 4 years ago.
John Martin
>$259 1600X is better
Daniel Young
>dual core in 2018 No, user
Nolan Kelly
when do the Threadripper 1900X price drops (-> $450) hit? ready to get off my ass and start my next build, but fuck if I'll pay an extra $30-$50 for that CPU.
Dominic Nguyen
funny thing is buying a prebuilt pc is becoming cheaper at this point
Zachary Robinson
Not a good buy
Either G4560 or R3 1200
No one cares. Nothing anyone here does is affected by the patches
Get fast DDR3 You can't use any DDR3 (such as laptop RAM) but you can use most. Also get a better graphics card
Michael Miller
Those unironically are the coolest RGB shit I've seen, and I think RGB shit is cancer.
Aiden Reyes
unlikely since they still need the same package and two chips for that CPU. Why go for the 1900X anyways? It's only justification are use cases that benefit from quad channel RAM or 64 PCIe lanes. It's CPU performance is a bit worse than an 1800X
Benjamin Morales
>RGB Disgusting, get Ripjaws
Austin Thompson
If only you knew how bad things are going to get
Gavin Martin
Worth it to buy 2x4GB DDR4 and get another kit with the same specifications? My current PC has same 2x4, except it is DDR3 and I barely reach that. My new z370e supports two dual DIMM slots.
Bentley Morris
>Those unironically are the coolest RGB shit I've seen, and I think RGB shit is cancer. This, honestly making it solid white would look really good.
Lincoln Bailey
This gave rudimentary info but He really didnt get much further than "give your card enough voltage, keep thermals in check, check for stability. Also try out a memory oc." I'm trying to push my oc further than a basic oc. I'm wondering what my limiting factor is here. I have a decently high voltage for my card (1.22v), I'm drawing massive power, and my thermals are in check at about 77 highest. This also didnt really explain the odd behavior of being benchmark stable but not game stable.
James Anderson
I wanna build a new computer once I'm done with boot camp but I feel like I could just buy the ram cards right now and put them in my new computer later, however all the ram on the example builds in the OP use DDR4, so does that mean I can't use newer sticks?
Angel Jenkins
I want: - 64GB of ECC RAM right off the bat with headroom for 128GB. - enough PCIe lanes that I can do pass-through to a guest VM GPU, plus 2x NVMe - 8+ cores at decent clocks
The plan is to have a workstation with decent RAM capacity that I can move to FS duty after 7nm/Zen2 Threadripper comes out in ~1.5 years.
A 1700-1800X and an AM4 board would get me the same compute for several hundred less, but the RAM and PCIe limits don't quite meet what I have in mind for when I repurpose it in the not too distant future.
Owen Johnson
>unlikely since they still need the same package and two chips for that CPU.
Well, that are legitimate reasons for an 1900X. TR4 is the more capable platform by far but the 7820X is in the same price range if you're looking for an 8 core and offers a bit more performance.
I'm pretty sure the 1900X won't get any cheaper than it already is. But I may be wrong. With raven ridge replacing the low end AM4 quad cores entirely they might have some dies left that would end in the trash otherwise. But its such a low volume segment that that might not matter.
Aiden Parker
lel
Brandon Peterson
I missed that, thanks for the info.
Gabriel White
When's it due and what's the starting price gonna be in eu?
give alternative then R3 1200 is almost twice as much, is it worth it?
Christian Brown
>R3 1200 is almost twice as much, is it worth it? >$100 is 2x$70 tf wait for zen+ 2200G if you want something lower of equal to $100
Carson Taylor
God bless him.
Ethan Jackson
You can't use DDR3 with a Z370
If your board already uses DDR3, you can't use DDR4.
>R3 1200 is almost twice as much, is it worth it? Depends on your standards and the graphics card you pair it with. If you're getting a 1050Ti you can get away with a G4560 for sure
Nicholas Young
When will this RGB gaymurr madness end?
Benjamin Cook
I know. I meant my current PC uses DDR3, my new one with Z370 will use DDR4.
Juan Sanders
1200 is 110 here, 4560 is 53+.
Thing is, I can't wait for more than 4 months, VAT reasons
Daniel Cruz
>implying rgb cant be tasteful on otherwise normal looking pcs
Eli Ortiz
... is that my list ?
Chase Allen
I'm trying to build a new tower to do 4K video editing. With the current state of affairs where is the best pricepoint to shoot for? I'll spend $500-600 no problem.
Kevin Price
>I'm trying to build a new tower to do 4K video editing An R7 1700 and the cheapest graphics card you can find. You won't use GPU acceleration if you give a shit about output quality.
Brayden Stewart
>You won't use GPU acceleration if you give a shit about output quality. I will need to use the GPU for Resolve
Tfw third worlder Tfw it would take me a whole month's wage to pay for a gtx 1070 ti
Sebastian Green
Managed to buy Xfx RX 580 8gb Black Edition for 280€ on black friday. Thank God.
Michael Jackson
I live in the 1st world and at this rate we're joining you within few months.
Xavier Phillips
You probably live quite comfortably then, at least way above average.
Jason Nguyen
Should I wait for a Full size tower Obsidian 750D. Do you think they're gonna release another new case this year?
I got all my parts ready to go, but this case looks pretty nice. The Airflow looks like shit though. However the hinges with tempered glass on both sides is pretty enticing
Brandon Bell
no, full size towers are a waste of space for most applications.
Jayden Bennett
t. towerlet
Cameron Scott
MITX is sufficient for most people in reality, maybe MATX if you want a bit more expandability.
Nathaniel Perez
Already asked this, but didn't get a reply because thread died.
My gpu (290) does not output analog. I need d-sub output. So i got myself a Radeon x300.
It does not work, it is not even detected, if 290 is inserted in the system and works only on the slot closest to the cpu.
How to fix this? Board is x99-ud4, 5820k cpu.
Carter Roberts
is mini-ITX a meme
Wyatt White
>does not output analog no modern GPU does
check if the PCIe slots are OK with a different card
Connor Gray
I know I love mITX but it can be a bit tight to build and thermals are getting worse when you go really small.
actually I fell for the full tower meme for my TR4 build but that space gonna be utilised pretty well soon by drives and more radiators.
maybe
Michael Scott
They're still selling the 1070 Ti for $720 (US) here.
Kayden Thomas
Tell me about it, i've got a dan case on the way. ON the plus side my battle station will really stand out.
Evan Cruz
What country do you live in? If you're earning more than 500$ a month in a third world country you'd be living like a king. At least in my imagination.
That's really small but well organised, for my entertainment PC is went with a LianLi Q21 and it's a total mess. Werks for me though with a bit of cable tucking and careful component choice.
Blake Ward
>no modern GPU does I know, that is why I bought another card
>check if the PCIe slots are OK with a different card
290 works from every slot.
James Martin
I just want a cute and tiny ITX build with 4 or more cores and a little shitty gpu but 2018 is such a bad year to build a computer
Adam Collins
Once I went full I couldn't go back, even though there are some kawaii midtowers. I have big caveman hands.
Isaac Brooks
Did you look for older motherboards with DDR3 ram? Then a RX560 or a low profile 1050 and you've got something pretty nice already.
Oliver Lee
Brazil My income is slightly above average, cost of living is high. Most of my money goes to rent and gas.
Aiden Russell
Buying a prebuilt PC is actually cheaper now.
Joseph Brooks
exactly, I'm getting a mITX box soon with a GTX 1080, R7 1700X and 16GB DDR4 for the cost of those 3 components alone
Jordan Kelly
does adding more fans increase or decrease the noise of the computer?
Josiah Murphy
Looks good but you better have a nice monitor Also an 8700 is overkill for gaming
