Systemd or open-rc?

systemd or open-rc?
faster boot or 3 MB less used ram?

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For what purpose.

neither lol

39 mb just to run console
bloated

runit

>lets use as little ram as possible and make the user wait 500 years to do anything
kys

>lets spend an hour compiling the biggest bloatware on earth so you can save 200ms during boot
KYS

3 seconds

>he'd rather waste time multiple times than just once

i found systemd easier to manage than openrc

>systemd is bloated
>boots faster than openrc

openercé

Because of parallelisation, you idiot.

Does anyone know if systemd supports luks well? I've been told it doesn't play nice with the genkernel initramfs, so I should use dracut. Anyone have any experience with this?

>putting your pc through enough power cycles that a +3s boot time is even a consideration
embarassing

neither of those are meaningful metrics when you cant read the fucking logs as they're not plain text.

Just further proof you should always do the exact opposite of what Sup Forums tells you.

That webm is really an awful test as both systems only have a basic set of services enabled and OpenRC doesn't have parallel mode enabled. If you wanted to actually properly benchmark them you would enable a wide variety of services, enable parallel boot on OpenRC, both have the same grub timeout, and make sure they both had the exact same services starting and the same initramfs.

bloat != slow

>3 MB less used ram
>10 mb difference in the free column
poettering, is that you?

Why not runit

better question, why runit? i have seen it mentioned here but as of right now openrc fits my needs well

kek

this

Once per fortnight should be a reasonable goal.

rc_parallel="YES"
Reaching systemd speeds

THIS!

fpbp

s6

>3MB less used ram
Lies. Use fincore to figure out how much of it is actually residing in memory.
Hint: systemd actually uses (way) less ram.

>the new "install gentoo"

dont tell them that

SysV has served me and others well

see the buffers/cached column. Basically, systemd touched 6 megs worth of more files, which makes them getting cached.
Although technically, buffers/cached is free memory, since as soon as more is needed and there's no more *free* free memory, cache gets evicted and used.

Anything but systemd

I use systemd because my distro comes with it.

There's still a performance penalty to cache eviction. Ask me about the file server at my dayjob that suddenly started getting pounded, and we had to put "echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" in a minute by minute cron job or else it would become unresponsive.

I want to find the guy that wrote that "linux ate my ram" website and punch his ignorant fucking lights out. It's impossible to inquire anywhere about anomalous memory usage without that fucking misleading site being brought up.

>people still go on about boot speeds
Boot speeds neither prove anything, nor are something you experience often enough to affect you in any possible way.

LOL
SystemD was sold on the fact that it boots a lot quicker.

works on my machine

>Heavily optimised system that cannot be customised without writing C modules, unreadable mess that likely contains bugs which act as backdoors
vs
>Script based startup system that is almost just as fast, but can be customised easily and is entirely readable

SHUT IT DOWN
SHUT IT DOWN
SYSTEMD IS THE ONLY SYSTEM THAT CAN RUN IN PARALLEL
SHUT IT DOWN!!!!

both are shit but openrc is better because it's a bit simpler and easier to use

>unix systems are supposed to run 24/7
>"we need a fast init system"
Just proves most of you are power cycling casual shitters.

Reboot machine 3 times a year.
Save 9 seconds.

linux is too fragmented. systems is a god-send

>having many choices
>"""fragmented"""
gamers please leave

obligatory xkcd 927

>xkcd
you need to go back

Reboot server, wait 15 minutes for ECC check, systemd chokes on boot and hangs.

Can't go back, I have no flux capacitor
And I'm too busy inventing wheels to make one.

>obligatory xkcd
slashdot.org/

That's a special kind of autism you got there

so why is it considered unstable and not enabled by default?
>race conditions and shitty dependency management
oh

>booting grub
>caring about boottimes
what a fucking faggot