Is OLED a meme? What use is a display technology that suffers from horrible image retention and burn-in...

Is OLED a meme? What use is a display technology that suffers from horrible image retention and burn-in, which also tops out at horrible brightness levels compared to LCD?

>muh inky blacks
Who cares?

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It is. LCD is much better

my Note8 has an AMOLED screen that's 1440p and 60hz, it's amazing. I never thought I'd ever fall for an OLED meme but this shit is amazing. It makes every day use so much comfier

Blind retards

>suffers from horrible image retention and burn-in
if they can fix that OLED would be the tits.

No display technology is perfect yet so it's nice to have options. You're also factually wrong about brightness but whatever, IDK what made you say it but go ahead and stick with LCD, that's the beauty of the free market.

come back and tell us about how amazing it is in a year of usage

Micro leds wil btfo everything

>is LCD a meme?
(You), 25 years ago

>You're also factually wrong about brightness

It is objective and measurable fact that OLEDs have much lower brightness than LCDs, both in terms of peak and average measurements. Especially when displaying near-100% white images, such as webpages, because of automatic brightness limiting (to stop them killing themselves). This is not in question and one of the major limitations of the technology.

CRT had burn in
plasma had burn in
somehow people survived

This. Once Apple releases a mLED display everyone will copy them.

I had a S3 super amoled for 4 years of daily use and never had a problem with the screen, oled is not a meme, is best than that ips shit blacklight display

>It is objective and measurable fact that OLEDs have much lower brightness than LCDs
Not him but I don't really see that as a big deal. I'm running my LCD at 35% brightness to not burn my eyeballs and it's still bright as fuck.

Pretty sure Samsung is doing it right now for big screen TV

youtube.com/watch?v=MNrqWewHJ1o

>>muh inky blacks
>Who cares?
Basically everyone?
>Is OLED a meme?
Depends on where it's used. (TV's are stupid as you want a TV to last more than 3 years, Phones and tablets though are great uses)
> suffers from horrible image retention and burn-in
I'm going to correct you on a technicality here - but your point is valid - OLED doesn't suffer from burn-in it suffers from burn-out.
>which also tops out at horrible brightness levels compared to LCD
This is objectively wrong in many was as LCD doesn't have brightness - the backlight does.
Also 95%+ of CCFL or LED LCD TVs won't have a backlight brighter than a new OLED panel.

Microleds are also a meme. SMD LEDs right now can be used for 1:16 mapping on screens bigger than 50" - Sony did it a few times, it was too expensive, too prone to failure and the LEDs were never well enough calibrated.

Panasonic is currently the best hope with their bonded IPS, it's literally just 2 IPS planes atop each other, it requires a far more powerful backlight solution but can provide 1,000,000:1 static contrast without burnin/out.

Had an LG 55" B6 OLED for over a year now. Never had burn in or retention. I check on occasion using colored slides. I don't leave banners or HUDS running for hours on end though. I am usually careful to mix my content.

You cannot beat the contrast and 4K HDR looks incredible.

The only downside is some motion issues (I wish LG would do black frame insertion).

Other than it's been fantastic. Even gaming latency is not too bad and a lot better on the latest models. Freesync when?

Tell me more about this bonded ips

Pretty sure they a added black frame insertion recently

Since this is a monitor thread, did anyone else see this video today?
youtube.com/watch?v=3BJU2drrtCM
Do LCDs really transition between frames that smoothly? What is it about them especially high framerate ones that gives headaches then?

Not much to say really, they announced it in late 2016 and nothing has been heard since.
They haven't motioned to shareholders that it's cancelled though, so presumably it's still a thing.

news.panasonic.com/global/press/data/2016/11/en161128-4/en161128-4.html

>CRT had burn in
>plasma had burn in
Nowhere near as OLED
>if they can fix that OLED would be the tits.
Why should they? Just buy a new TV each year or two.

Seems they were mostly targeting enterprise application which makes sense because requiring double the ips panels and stronger back light means the production costs are never going to be competitive in the consumer market

WTF you talking about. Plasma had extreme burn in issues

OLED has promise but its got burn in faults. MicroLED is the true hope

I'm still feeling comfy user, after using amoled for a long time

Planned obsolescence is a reality. If you don't like it, feel free to move to socialist hellholes like Venezuela or North Korea.

IPS panels are cheap as shit, even four of them would still undercut an OLED.
Fusing glass isn't expensive.
A bigger backlight isn't expensive - just uses more power and might not look good on the energystar sticker. (a new Plasma!)

But ips was always more expensive than LCD and those have become really good

IPS is a type of LCD...
I'm not sure you've really got a handle on display technologies bud...

Arguing semantics now? I'd you're not a brainlet, you understand what I'm saying. Ips was always the more expensive LCD

>semantics
>But ips was always more expensive than LCD
You're an idiot.

Again your point is btfo so you have no argument left

Is this bait or are you this retarded? Samsung already demoed a custom sized TV using microleds at CES
Apple fanboys never cease to digust me.

Are you? It'll probably be a one-off product. Things aren't standards until Apple does them. After Apple does something everyone will join in on the fad. Wireless charging and thunderbolt are pretty recent examples of that.

You never had a point to begin with...
>But ips was always more expensive than LCD and those have become really good
Literally no point whatsoever... just drivel...

Learn to read you triggered cuck. I'm saying production costs will make it unable to compete with other LCD TVs in the consumer market. Which is why they were talking about using it for professional applications

You've got a pretty warped view there.
Qi has been standard for 6 or so years now.
Ikea has been selling furniture with Qi charging for 5 years now, they even made a charging case for the Galaxy S3... (ikea did, seriously.)
Apple is very late to this party.

>Thunderbolt
Not used anywhere outside Apple in any serious capacity... It's an Apple meme.

Learn to read english idiot - I stated the entire BOM+production would still be less than an OLED panel solution, moron.

The new B8 series will have it. It's not being added to current or older models.

Not really on OP's side, but has technology always been made to fail in the future to sell more? Or only in recent years?

It was never supposed to compete with lowend TVs - it's for HDR and highend gear.
This whole thread is about OLED, HDR and highend gear.
Why would you suddenly think lowend shit LCDs were the topic of discussion unless you had brain damage?

Nice strawman. I'm not saying it can't compete with oled I'm saying it can't compete with anything but oled in the consumer market. There is a reason you don't hear shit from them

implying we will get either oled or micro led monitors in the next 5 years anyway


they dont give a shit if its not a tv or a smartphone.

Current non oled LCD tvs do very decent HDR

He's talking high end non omeme lcd

I can't help but think OLED will go the way of plasma.
>looks better than LCD due to better contrast/more vivid color
>high cost
>burn-in

>muh burn in
Burn in is a meme unless you leave a single image on the screen for hours at a time with full brightness. On my OLED monitor I just turn it off by pressing the button when I get up to go do something. It doesn't take much effort at all to take care of nice things if you aren't a mouth breathing retard. And yes, the deeper blacks and more vibrant colors overall are great, and well worth it if you have the money. It's not a huge difference but it's enough that I recommend OLED to anyone with extra good boy points to throw around.

TLDR take care of your things, you stupid fucksticks

Image retention is not even the biggest problem of OLED, the pixels degrade quickly and non uniformly. It's an expensive piece of shit that needs replacing in a couple of years

2 year old S6 here, screen is still perfect

Two years for an expensive tv ain't shit

I thought that's HDR that's amazing

So? Richfags of Sup Forums (read: anyone with a job) will continue to buy them and enjoy their nice things. People say the same thing about SSDs having a short lifespan, but they're really fast and nice to have. I'm using an X230 with a 7200RPM HDD and a shitty washed out LCD panel and it works great for shitposting and emails, but I like to go all out on my desktop and make it as nice as possible.

You mean gullible faggets who would also buy overpriced apple hardware with the longevity of a fruit fly.

Longevity isn't an issue for me because I enjoy the superior products that I'm getting, and I can just get new ones. Yeah, sure, it doesn't last 20 years. So what? I'd rather invest money in my motherboard and install Coreboot on it and use that for 10-15 years. Monitors and other peripherals are replaced much more easily.

The price of OLED TVs is coming down all the time. You can buy a 55" B7 for ~£1500 right now (and it was as low as £1350 on Black Friday), which really isn't much more than a mid-range LCD of the same size like the XE90 (£1200).

Plasma had more substantial problems in terms of practicality, since they were necessarily huge, heavy and expensive by design, since you needed a certain bill of materials to make the technology work (the same flaw that caused CRTs to fall out of favour). OLED TVs are basically a sheet of metal with a panel bonded to it (plus the necessary processing board, PSU and speakers of course). Once the process of manufacturing the panels comes down in cost, the actual bill of materials is even lower than LCD screens.

To expand on what said, the problem is that different colours degrade at different rates (iirc red diodes wear out the fastest) so it not about displaying a single image - it's about displaying an image at all. That being said, I think people are exaggerating - the early OLEDs were quick to burn out, but the technology is constantly being improved. I think they are very good for portable devices - you don't use them that much in total anyway and you can use some dark theme to enjoy lower power consumption. And yeah, they might not be able to remain in a good shape for 10 years, but that's fine for a phone.

*burns in*

>oled
Enjoy your color degradation over time

>bb-b-but I-i don’t notice t-that on my 2 year old phone
Just like the frogs don’t notice the water starting to boil.

Which one of these is supposed to be correct?

Are you blind? Left has degraded reds

Shit is so over saturated its honestly hard to tell.

You probably have a shit tier display. On my HTC U11 it's obvious as fuck

Enjoy your burn in, retard.

Are you honestly arguing that it isn't over saturated?

If you used a balanced image on the display it would be easier to tell. I'm just making a point that the shit on the displays is already garbage so there is no way of knowing which is off.

It's easy as fuck to tell. And it's not over saturated either

>Just like the frogs don’t notice the water starting to boil.
That frog was lobotomized though.

>it's not over saturated
Are you fucking kidding me?

If I saw someone that looked like that in real life I would be scared that I was having a stroke or something.

You either have shit eyes or shit screen

That photo is the best you can do photography a screen, and the difference between the two is extremely obvious

Yet the red on the album cover is much more vivid.

It's been a thing easily as long as consumer computers have. The term came about when the auto industry reached saturation in the mid 20's (everyone who was in the market for a car had one) and manufacturers started putting lots of superfluous tweaks in new models to convince people they needed a new car. If you want something 'made to last' you have to go a real craftsman or a business that has made its name off durability and quality. You'll pay a premium though.

>I didn't use it yet cause I only use apple products so that means it wasn't standard until apple did it
delusion

It is less bright on the screen which gives the right one that effect

>That photo is the best you can do photography a screen

Can't fix stupid.

you're a fucking idiot with no clue what you're talking about

>comparing a $100 bargain bin phone screen from 2013 to a premium OLED TV

Brainlet IT still doesn't matter because both screens are side by side in the same photo. So the relative difference between them is obvious unless your a blind mole man

I was just making fun of your shitty english.

I was done arguing about whether or not that image was over-saturated before you said it wasn't lmao.

Oh, I see the fucked up sentence now. I hate typing on touchscreen keyboard so I'm using swipe typing and it's fucking up every five words or so but it still beats typing on tiny touchscreen keyboard. I miss my old xperia with the wide physical keyboard so much.

Christ you are such a bitch.
There is no way you are over 18.

Huh? Why, because I like actual buttons that are reliable and always do what I want them to? You seem like you're just here to argue about things. Is your boyfriend not paying enough attention to you?

>being a fagget weeb
>being a namefag
>being a tripfag
You reek of cancer

240 Hz, 4k, 0.1 ms response time, 12-bit HDR++++ 24 inch microLED panel when?!

It comes out on the same day that you lose your virginity, nerd.

I used the original Galaxy until 2015 and never had any problems

fuck

It will take a long fucking time before you can get micro led panels that small

>he still uses his TV to watch broadcasts with static logos

Burn-in isn't a problem if you're living in this century.

Pc has static ui. Games have static ui. Movies have black bars.

What do you use a display screen for?

what are screensavers

>PCs and games
Who the fuck uses their TV as a monitor and playing games? Console fags can fuck off.

Burn-in isn't a problem when the diodes aren't lit, which black bars don't.

You watch movies, TV shows, YouTube, etc.

Outdated garbage, also you would have to be away from your PC for a long time for that shit to do anything

PC has static ui. No one is buying high end TV for YouTube. The difference between they usually black and the active framer it's gonna be noticeable as well

That's why you don't use it as a monitor for fuck's sake.

YouTube has loads of 4k content now.

We are talking display technology. OLED is OLED, doesn't matter if it's in a phone, monitor or TV.

Black doesnt appear black on LCD screens in the dark. It looks gray.

I have a Samsung galaxy s advanced. came out in 2012. The super AMOLED screen still looks great.
>never understood the problem with OLED

Who are you quoting?

it looks *gay

The quoted post makes sense. Not sure what you're on about.