Redpill me on Debian, Sup Forums!
I was an average Windows-migrant, who played with Ubuntu and Linux Mint.
Tried various distros as well, but always returned to these two.
Now I installed MX 17, and decided to take the Debian pill.
I got tired of the bloat, the unnecessary ricing / changes - stability is all I need, so why bother with these soyboy distros?
So: what can I expect with Debian stable? Any cons?
Also MX 17 is absolutely gorgeous.
>Biggest repos ever
57,290 packages
en.wikipedia.org
>Best freetard distro
debian.org
>Longest running
Initial release date: August 16, 1993
>Not bloat
Iso image of the net installer is 300 something mb
>Website isn't cancerous what so ever
Compare other gnu/linux distro websites to debian.org
Great wiki
wiki.debian.org
wiki.debian.org
wiki.debian.org
wiki.debian.org
etc etc etc
>Most friendly userbase
>Lots of distros based off of Debian
Ubuntu and mint leech the shit out of debian
Don't say debian has old packages or it has systemd in it.
If you don't like systemd use gentoo or void.
etc etc etc etc etc
>what can I expect with Debian stable?
software versions from 90's?
Based Debian user! Thanks for the reply.
Sounds good.
Two things made me avoid it till now:
1, install is difficult
2, no proprietary stuff, like drivers
But I think MX's install is kinda the same as the new Debian stable's, so it's not a biggie.
Also there are install images with proprietary components, right?
debian stable + backports is patrician tier
>install is difficult
except it isn't. It's not more difficult than installing windows 2k/xp/2003, especially with the GUI installer
>no proprietary stuff, like drivers
again, not true.
-non-free install CD exists which has firmwares
-after the installation you can enable the non-free repos and install any proprietary crapware you might need from there (amdgpu-pro, nvidia-drivers, iwlwifi etc)
see this: >debian stable + backports is patrician tier
"You are running Debian stable, because you prefer the Debian stable tree. It runs great, there is just one problem: the software is a little bit outdated compared to other distributions. This is where backports come in.
Backports are packages taken from the next Debian release (called "testing"), adjusted and recompiled for usage on Debian stable. Because the package is also present in the next Debian release, you can easily upgrade your stable+backports system once the next Debian release comes out. (In a few cases, usually for security updates, backports are also created from the Debian unstable distribution.)
Backports cannot be tested as extensively as Debian stable, and backports are provided on an as-is basis, with risk of incompatibilities with other components in Debian stable. Use with care!
It is therefore recommended to only select single backported packages that fit your needs, and not use all available backports."
OpenSuse 69,367>57,290, get fucked
>using a server OS to funpost
Actually, it's called OpenSUSE, with SUSE in all caps.
Actually, it's called openSUSE, with o in lowercase.
ain't nobody got time for that
My life is a lie.
Spelling champion of the world
>soyboy
Begone, Sup Forumsboy
>it's an 'I can't contribute to the topic, but still want to cause chaos' episode
Sure, buddy.
Any thoughts on Debian, by the way?
apt is shit
pacman >>> dnf >>> zypper >>>>>>> apt
Opensuse is a pretty cool guy, eh fixes firefox tile preview and doesn't afraid of anything.
>apt is shit
Why? Could you elaborate on this, user?
>Any thoughts on Debian, by the way?
It's just not for you, kid
>Opensuse
openSUSE
>installer can write grub MBR to the install media instead of the hdd you installed up to this point (which is the end of the install)
>there is a sneakily named 'debian desktop environment' which if you have the misfortune to select turns out to be gnome, takes forever to install and update because apt is so slow
/!\ very important /!\
never install debian or ubuntu right away NEVER
always TEST first with a live session if the release works with your pc
old obsolete frozen packages =/= stability
>It's just not for you, kid
I'm not your kid, bro.
>never install debian or ubuntu right away NEVER
>always TEST first with a live session if the release works with your pc
MX 17 has a live sessions, so I could test it first.
Good advice, by the way.
>old obsolete frozen packages =/= stability
What is stability for you, then?
Serious question.
>What is stability for you, then?
by definition upstream (non dev) releases
you can't call an old shit stable just because it won't change for a prolonged time (it's misleading), in that sense ubuntu is honest, they call it lts which is what it is