and CSV isn't bloat and harmful? it still has common delimiter parsing problems just like json. at least with json though it's less "weird" and people are less likely to do retarded shit like calling a split on a comma like a retard.
example of CSV being shit: asd,"multiline column" more,shit
Christopher Martin
>if generics are already being added for go2.
fuck off, JSON is one rare and happy example of something being both good and widespread
Jace Murphy
>going back to other languages without chans
Elijah Morales
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Nolan King
Stick to your soyboy languages.
Juan Gutierrez
>he doesn't properly parse his csv
Christian Hernandez
>Unix >Rop bike
Carter Price
i don't bother because jsonl is a less cancerous format in general and i can transform it into whatever free text horse shit that's needed
Joseph Edwards
jesus fucking christ.
go faggots literally will defend this.
Ryan Butler
Sounds like a Python brainlet.
Austin James
There is no fucking standardized CSV. If you believe this then I have some bad news about Santa, the Easter Bunny, and of course the Lucky Charms dude on your cereal box.
Don't believe me? Go outside of your favorite echo chamber and look around. Get "CSV" exports (whatever the fuck that means) from all kinds of platforms, packages, hell even Excel. Discover the wonderful delight of "is it using single or double quotations" along with "what is the proper way to escape quotations in a string", how about "just how do we represent a line with an embedded carriage return", or who could forget the logic of "it exported out with quoted delimiters but my imports only support delimiters on strings", and my favorite "should it include a field header line or not".
Standards my fucking old ass.
The real truth is that CSV is a fucking state of mind. It really just means "I have a bunch of faggoty strings that I can't properly delimit".
We were better off with fucking tab delimiters for fuck's sake. At least there was an entire non-printing control character devoted to the entire concept. And if you had to embed a tab? Wait, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU EMBEDDING A TAB IN THE FUCKING TEXT?
I only rant because I had to actually live through that pain once.
>stupid project at work, need to import sales data >should be easy >"Excel does it" >fuck me, it doesn't like the export >dig deeper into shitty script I had to whip up because I don't have a lot of time allocated to this project from dumbass manager >fuck me again, turns out CSV really is a state of mind >fuck around with parameters and settings >finally get a format that works >format can be read in by end-program (which I ship data off to) but not exactly by Excel >learn hard lesson, and start realizing just how much of this is pendantic shit >how much we take for granted what we consider standards >pine for the days when ASCII was a real fucking standard, realize just how much computing depends on decades of little-known and often forgotten giants >it's 2010 >realize Steve Jobs is just a shyster, selling the latest shiny to a bunch of faggot morons >realize how good I had it at the turn of the century >realize just how fucked computing is today
Cooper Lopez
The dust kicked up as you drive in circles through your wasteland of abandoned frameworks and lost productivity? Will you guys even leave anything behind you when you're done? People still get paid to maintain COBOL, but JS only stays in production long enough to pump out the next new hotness.
Christopher Anderson
This. >I was paid for over a decade to write shitty FoxPro code. (code was actually fairly bulletproof but the language and environment are pure shit, maybe 2 notches above Bancstar) >I watched as people drifted in and out of the industry, unable to keep a job down for more than a few years. >Watched as entire "programmer blogs" turned into dust, their creators giving up on the trade >Microshaft took a huge shit on FoxPro and killed it in 2007 >I kept the fucking code going past 2014 >People are still writing FoxPoop code Just because it's new and hot, doesn't mean it's going to stick around. Javascript is "just ok"; get JS to start doing serious business outside of a browser and we'll talk. Until then, it's Yet Another Trendy Language That Gets People Into Conferences For A Circle Jerk.
Xavier Cox
Trust me kid, when you work with PHP, you will love going with JS. The lesser of two evils