Just had this bullshit interview. They tel me they want to do a second interview, awesome. Then they give me a URL to a coding problem on their site and ask me to come prepared with a solution for this.
Fuck that, I’m not doing unpaid work, on my own time nonetheless.
Why is the programming industry so fucked? When was the last time a carpenter was asked to build a house for an interview?
To see how "motivated" ie desperate you are for the job. Employers are looking for reasons not to hire you, so yah.
>When was the last time a carpenter was asked to build a house for an interview?
a lot of assholes don't pay beyond the down payment
and there's often not much the carpenter can do to legally get the rest because they're typically dodging taxes anyway
So you're saying you would rather face a whiteboard with no preparation, than have time to solve a more complicated problem, which you then present?
>Fuck that, I’m not doing unpaid work, on my own time nonetheless.
You may want to get your brain checked by a doctor. There might be a tumor where your frontal lobe used to be. It may explain why you're a cretin.
>When was the last time a carpenter was asked to build a house for an interview?
How is that in any way, shape, or form equivalent? Are you really this moronic?
unless youre interviewing out of your field whatever 'homework' they give you should be trivial and just a simple demonstration of your skill
>URL to a coding problem on their site and ask me to come prepared with a solution for this
have they not heard of stackoverflow?
i've been on the other side of the interviewing table, tons of people lie and waste our time; that's why we try to put pre-filtering like test sites.
>resume has the past 2 jobs with angular projects. claims to be an expert
shows up for interview. well spoken & dressed. doesn't know basic directives. no idea what injection is. has a panic attack at the whiteboard.
FOH
Yeah I'd never do that unless they were paying me for my time
Welders are expected to produce test coupons that pass bend testing and X-ray inspection. Proving you can do the work isn't remotely new.
one place did this to me, but it wasn't just a coding problem, it was actual work fixing up a feature for a client
I told them I got a better job offer
fucking wankers
Check your privilege, white boi
I had to do a 20 mins test for mine. Give you loads of questions about Windows Server, SQL, Vmware etc (this being a IT role)
This test was online to do at home. It would recognise if you changed tab so ensure you didn't cheat and stuff.
I knew fuck all about SQL, so I just opened another web browser and googled the answers. I got the job btw, lmao.
>prepare a solution for a coding problem that you will present in an interview
>build a house
1- These two items are not equal.
2- Alternative: They should just give you the problem when you come to the interview, without giving you the chance to prepare.
3- You idiot.
OP is right faggots.
Homework from job interviews are scams.
Great bait OP.
That or you're actually retarded.
I approve of this "homework".
What I wouldn't approve of though, is that fake picture going around that shows some place trying to bill someone for a fucking interview. That is fucked up if it ever happens.
> caring if people know angular
took me 2 days to learn it, you should test people on js and general problem solving skills not specific frameworks you idiot.
We used to give applicants an exercise too. It was something ridiculously easy for us but we wanted to see how the applicant would try to understand the requirements, design the solution for this problem and eventually solve the problem in a flexible way that would allow room for additional functionality in the future.
Now if you cannot do this, you will certainly find another job somewhere else, but you would not be a good fit in our company, since slackers like you would get fired in the first 2 months anyway.
> recognize if you changed tabs
just do it in FF, browsers are secure enough so one tab cannot know anything about information on other tabs
Just checked. It's still there. Thanks for asking.
Great
job
Reddit
Go
back
now
pls
You're autistic, I know people that spend up to 60 hours doing research on the company and job position so they can have a good interview, enjoy unemployment
There are just too many candidates that can't code for shit, even if they have a degree.
This post is a good example why most of Sup Forums is unemployed
>not wanting to do work for free means you're a slacker
Fuck off retard. Nobody wants to work at your shitty no-name company.
>FOH
*F O E
ftfy
any job interview at a good company will give you homework. I started the interview process for a pretty exclusive company and the first thing after the phone interview was some challenging "homework"
>figure problem out
>tell them you will only reveal the solution once you get paid or hired
It's not just that there's too many candidates that can't code, there are just too many candidates. If this is a senior position then fuck it, go to another company, but you should be very afraid if you are entry level because there could be thousands of applicants to a single job and maybe 10 of them get to the second stage like you. Still 10 good people who they want to hire, but they only have one position. They need a reason not to hire 9 people, and refusing to do something part of the interview process is a perfect reason. Remember that Indians and Chinese will gladly write a thousand lines of code before a phone screen so you better get out of the industry if you don't want to be trampled.
Nigga I'm willing to do this shit too but I can't even get a phone call.
That's because your resume is bland as fuck or has "do not touch with 10-foot pole" flags like hentai waifu-rating projects
>hentai waifu-rating projects
who the fuck does this?
>why the fuck do I have to prove I know how to do something before being hired to do it!
>go to second interview
>empty handed
>claim to be disabled minority genderfluid
>test was discriminatory
>we can settle out of court
Never work again.
>unfrosted
fuck off with that gay shit
>company wants you to prove you know what the fuck you're talking about before hiring you.
>entitled, self-righteous millennial chimps out.
>two weeks later dumb millennial posts "why can't I find a job."
Checks out
>pic
in tears
Do you want to be desperate for a job or not?
Meanwhile, This guy I Lyfted finished his 11th interview at Google and just did his orientation.
You have it so hard.
>blueberries
>the filling is red
wat
10/10
Sounds like you guys got gangslung.
Me and my buddies do this to get friends into higher jobs than they should be, works pretty well.
Get multiple friends to get interviews on the same day for the same job.
Most of the friends have god awful interviews on purpose.
Friend who is kinda qualified has decent interview.
Kinda qualified friend looks MUCH better to interviewers, than if they came in on a day where everyone interviewed well.
It works, it's fraud, but it's fraud that no one backchecks.
>I’m not doing unpaid work, on my own time
To me, "unpaid work" would be doing something of value to them without pay. Completing a take-home test isn't really valuable to them so I wouldn't consider it "unpaid work" any more than I'd consider going through the interview process to be "unpaid work." (Unless they're asking you to solve some real problem where the code you write will go into production -- if they're asking you to do that for free, then fuck that.)
That said, it's still kind of a bullshit request and probably a waste of your time. But there are a lot worse instances of employers asking for unpaid work (or spec work, etc.) than that.
>contribute to open source projects for a while
>company contacts me asking if I want to come for an interview
>have no schooling or professional experience in the field outside of meme online courses
I'm going to drive 3 hours to an office just to embarrass myself or be offered a janitor position. Fuck me.
I'm looking for a new job atm
I worked on one last week that took 3 days but at least I got a job interview from it for this week.
Fucking sucks when you're in a rush and recruiters spam you with 4-5 of this fucking tests. I shouldn't be on this site. Gotta shit out more tests
Yes i hate interview test as well... it's like right off the bat they don't trust you and controlling all the power in the process. I normally give them the finger and move on.
Took 3 days to get interview.
Posts about it.
Gets trips.
It's a sign from above.
You will get your job.
(999 upside down is 666)
I hope the AC at your new job site is good enough to keep you cool...
...
...
Satan...
I hope I get the job (assuming I still want it after the interview). You're right maybe trips is a sign
I travel 2+ hours each way to work. Need to cut that down or just give up on having a life. New job should be a bit better
We're already seeing the return of barter as a result of how fed up the people are with the manipulation of fiat currency by the Jewish banking elites. How soon can we expect the return of the apprenticeship system in response to the ridiculous credentialism that dominates the modern job market?
>(3) 052
>(3) 0 - 5 - 2
>(3) (3)
>took me 3 lines to explain the pattern
holy shit.
>things magic numbers on a Mongolian Vietnamese image board are real.
Yeah, I don't see much of a future for you. Better learn how to use a fry machine ASAP and the phrase "how can I help you?"
ever seen crushed blueberries?
they're pretty red
not as red as that product label but definitely a purpleish red
>Baked with Real Fruit!*
>*
[worried chuckle]
If it's actual production work they give you, fuck that.
If it's a small something to test your demonstration of skillset, that's fine imo.
Especially, if they don't have an active github or portfolio that showcases their abilities.
Otherwise, how are they going to know that you can actually do what your resume says you can do?
Also, would you rather whiteboard? because fuck that.
This is hysterical, but job interviewing is so backwards that it's just commendable.
>hentai waifu-rating projects
Has somebody actually put stuff like this on a CV?
What's wrong with SO? If you give out a problem before-hand that is already solved and the solution is out in public that's what you deserve. Do other shit to test their understanding and not ask them trivia. If you can't do that then you're not better an interviewer than the unprepared interviewee. It's just a shame you have more control than them.
>doesn't know basic directives. no idea what injection is. has a panic attack at the whiteboard.
You're going to have to give context. I've met my fair share of front-end developers who can "hack it", so to speak, but I know they aren't the type to have comprehensive knowledge over even their own tools so I can see how they'd be a mismatch for a lot of firms. How integral is that stuff to Angular development? What was the whiteboard problem that was given?
Uh fuck guys, should I just take on an unpaid internship at KIND OF SHADY STARTUP that only offers equity for their "paid" developers anyway?
I'm really desperate and no one seems to care about my open source contributions (I even see it mentioned here on Sup Forums). It's so shitty though, if I was doing shit unpaid I'd rather just keep on with my projects.
I just want SOME fucking money to sustain myself, I don't even care about equity.
>interviewers respect my experience and knowledge from the getgo
>the team is highly competent and whether they hire me or not I know they're going to be movers in the industry
everytime
I find it's the "lmao $20,000 in Silicon Valley" types that are the most arbitrarily stringent
how long?
damn I wish my contributions meant jack shit to anybody
tfw my only open source contributions are to anime projects, fml
>what's a joke
don't let this place scare you off, if what you did was the least bit technically meaningful it's worthwhile
i'd rather see a developer using their skills with passion than someone, even if "talented", just doing something by the numbers
Less than a year on a popular/big name project.
>If it's actual production work they give you, fuck that.
This. This is why the other guy's "build a house for a job in construction" example doesn't work.
>Things that have never and will never happen
Do the project, add a half dozen skills to your resume.
Test
You're a lazy fuck who can't even be bothered to do some basic coding, enjoy unemployment.
Most everyone posting in this thread is in mom's basement and think they can bullshit there way through an interview with their codeacademy knowledge.
First of all no company is going to open up their actual code base to you. There are going to give you something simple just to prove you know what you say you know. For example on an online interview was given 24 hours to implement a simple mockup in React from some psuedo code they gave me, just simple stuff like you would see in a book exercise. Of course all the fizzbuzzers here could not pass such a test and so think 'homework' is unfair.
kek that's actually great
ITT: people who do it for no financial compensation
I throw out half the resumes we receive, I don't want to hire unlucky people.
Not so, I once went to an interview for a startup in SF. They put me down in front of actual production code and told me to implement a feature.
They didn't reject me, but they did give me a terrible low offer hoping my financial situation would pressure me into accepting.
These people deserve to be shot.
what's your point?
I wouldn't have a job if I didn't do it for free.
how to get people to work for free:
>step 1.) say you're hiring
>step 2.) make each candidate do something for you for free to prove they can
>step 3.) don't hire any of them
>step 4.) profit
how is this not already a popular get rich quick scheme?
Waste of time unless you find it difficult to get interviews
in which case you aren't specialised enough
Because you need office space for that
How do you know it's not?
How is research on the company going to help you at all? An interview is about evaluating the persons skillsets/merit, and ability to communicate with other humans, that's about it.
Going in there knowing what dress the boss's secretary wears or saying you've been using their products for a decade isn't going to help you get a position.
Do it for free(paid)
...
holy shit that's genius
>Being this unemployed
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
DID YOU COME UP WITH THAT ONE YOURSELF?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OH MAN THATS AMAZING. I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT """JOKE""" BEFORE. WOW I WISH I COULD UPVOTE YOU.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
IF I COULD BY YOU REDDIT GOLD OR A Sup Forums PASS I WOULD. BECAUSE THAT COMMENT WAS A REAL GEM.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I'M GOING TO TAKE A SCREEN SHOT OF THIS POST AND UPLOAD IT TO MY FACEBOOK. MY GREAT GRANDMA TWICE REMOVED WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
IT'S SO FUNNY AND ORIGINAL. YOU SIR OR MADAM (BECAUSE YES, EVEN GIRLS CAN BE FUNNY IN 2018 AND I THINK ITS ABOUT TIME THAT US MALES BOTH CIS AND TRANS APPRECIATE WHAT A WITTY COMMENT THAT IS) DESERVE A MEDAL. I COULD JUST MARRY YOU AND WE COULD HAVE KIDS THAT ARE AS FUNNY AS YOU.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Not an argument, present your case in under 60 hours or I'll get someone else.
I found it pretty funny desu.
stfu retard
Pretty sure they did too.
>score IT job at a state university
>everyone sucks your dick because you work for a place that has a prestigious nigger handegg team
>still can't get laid
It was just never meant to be
If you give them your git and completely forgot about that one awkward 4chanX fork you made 15 years ago it can happen pretty easily.
>has IT job at state university at handegg team as a student
>nigger wages 16$ hourly nbd
>get 33$ software internship as a result
>meet qt chinese programmer gf
>get 6 figure job doing javascript with good worklife balance
>have daughter west coast
feels good to be a normie sometimes
racemixer produces los ogres y el creatuera
1488
i appreciate that though, makes it real easy to toss your resume in the trash
i agree these aren't quite choice genes especially if I had a son, hair loss, dementia, depression, bad vision, doesn't mix to well but I'm a manlet with perfect eyes so maybe she'll grow up to not look like a pacific mudlander
>Baked with Real Fruit!*
>*
GNU/Neet doesn't have this problem.