/FSG/ Free Speech General

In a world besieged by censorship we need a way to publish our opinion.

Usefull:
The Onion Router
Mastodon
ZeroNet
IPFS

Other urls found in this thread:

ipfs.io/blog/24-uncensorable-wikipedia/
maidsafe.net/
safenetwork.org/
my.mixtape.moe/utyttb.pdf
github.com/blog/2503-deprecation-notice-removing-anonymous-gist-creation
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

>hate software freedom because maaah commi meem
>mainstream kicks you out
>come crying to take shelter

when can you not express free speech?

Delete this thread.

free speech is overrated

Criticising the mainstream political corectness.

I don't see any reason to use ZeroNet, all I've heard about it are restrictions and technical faults. IPFS seems to supersede it anyway.

On facebook, the only page used by about 90% of internet population used mainly for communication.

but facebook is a private company so it doesn't count

The problem at the moment with IPFS is that there is no incentive to pin content. I think an app like PopcornTime is needed for IPFS. An application that has an easy to use GUI. And people can follow the publishers they like. And when the publisher, publishes something they automatically repin it.

facebook is a private company, they don't have to respect your free speech

The CIA, FBI, and NSA have taken over onion routing, assume your exit node is compromised especially if over plaintext HTTP and any .onion domain is a honeypot

It is not only usefull for anonimity. It can also be used when you cannot get a domain name. Take the Daily Stormer for example. They have survived thanks to the onion router. dstormer6em3i4km dot onion

That still doesn’t make their policies okay. Yes, they have the right to censor their network as they see fit but I have the right to say no to facebook and recommend alternatives

hehehe

You can have anonymity in ZeroNet since it has built-in Tor support.
IPFS doesn't have anything to protect the identify of its users so good luck having "free speech" when every user can be easily tracked.

Also, stop spreading disinformation.

The incentive is the same as bittorrent (which ZN uses), content availability. There's no inherent incentive to seed content on ZN either other than wanting to keep it alive.

For IPFS there are already pinning services both paid and co-op, however the team itself is working on a token system called Filecoin that will be valued with time, i.e I'm willing to host your content in a verifiable way for X days if you give me Y coins. This creates an economy not based around monetary value necessarily but hosting time. For people like me this is great since I can just seed for other people during the night while I sleep, earning tokens, and then spend them during the day when I want to use my own bandwidth.

Likewise you can target geographical regions this way too, maybe someone will pay me more to host content in the US since that's where their users are, like traditional CDNs but extremely competitive.

>bittorrent over TOR
JUST

Your anonymity on onionland can be easily ruined via javascript or a browser exploit. Besides, how can you really trust the FBI doesn’t know everyone who’s connected to the daily stormer onion or that the midget andrew has competent opsec

>Facebook is censoring free speech.
>Private company bucko

>Facebook isn't censorimg free speech.
>Germonkey and other Islamic countries flipping their shit and threatening Facebook with massive fines for not caring about some irrelevant and unconstitutional hate-speech laws

Guess it's only a private company when it fits the narrative.

Canada

what do you have to say that's gonna be censored by govt?
if Daily Stormer still has surface web domain why wouldn't you have?

IPFS can be routed through TOR as well, there is already a fork that has native integration, it is pending an audit before being merged upstream.

In mainline there is support for private F2F type networks.

In addition to that the goal for IPFS is to be modular, eventually you'll be able to swap their routing system with i2p or whatever else you trust.

I still feel like this currently does and will continue to supersede ZN.

>what is redesigning the protocol
The key is in the words "built-in".
They are not just stacking a socks proxy on top of a regular bittorrent client.

>Also, stop spreading disinformation.
I forgot to address this. I just don't want anyone to get fucked out here. Despite the fact it's not required, the fact that you can do it at all, and by default, is REALLY bad especially since once it's there it's there forever.

>what is redesigning the protocol
a security nightmare

>At 8am local time on April 29th, Wikipedia went dark for everyone in Turkey. According to the independent watchdog group Turkey Blocks, the Turkish government has issued a court order that permanently restricts access to the online encyclopedia.
ipfs.io/blog/24-uncensorable-wikipedia/

>since once it's there it's there forever
What? It's not blockchain, lad.

Maybe if some people have thicker skin and don't take a "ur ghey lol" comment seriously, then we wouldn't have this issue.

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> If I don't agree with your point of view. I'll throw my ideals about free software over board.
Nice try commie filth

Practically forever then, pedant. If someone views a thread they have to download that data, as long as they're online they're mirroring that data and so is everyone else that saw it.
As with most if not all p2p systems, it's going to remain available as long as 100% of the blocks are on the network from any number of nodes.

Every update is timestamped and digitally signed.
Clients only keep track of the latest valid digitally signed content.
If someone wishes to remove or modify something that they have published in the network it's possible for them to just update their content file, changing the state of the content that they wish to modify, and publish the updated version and virtually all clients will overwrite any previous versions that they have stored.

Of course, someone could copy and store all the states of a given client but that's true for literally anything posted in the internet.

REMINDER: Freedom of speech does not give you the right to hateful speech

ur gay lmao

Please stop posting.

Oh the irony.

Rude

You have to go back.

Sup Forums wordfilters (((desu)))

Stahp, that is hateful speech.

What's wrong with desu?

This doesn't look like Sup Forums thread to me.

>muh political correctness
>muh 1st ammendment
>does nothing when daddy Trump tells the CDC they can't use certain words

?pol?

Sup Forums is an extension of Sup Forums where we all claim to be proponents privacy and freedom but say nothing when republicans shit all over the constitution

>republicans shit all over the constitution
i don't care

Maidsafe, distributed filesystem
maidsafe.net/
safenetwork.org/

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>Free
>As in freedom
>Commie
Communism is free as in free beer. Libertarianism is free as in freedom.

>Criticising the mainstream political corectness.
Where?

Nice to know you have nothing worth saying

When it means you'll be sent to prison(China), lose your livelihood/job/career/academic (Everywhere), killed (Russia).

Agreed

GPL = Free as in free market
Prove me wrong

PROTIP: You can't

this

>replied

What behavior are you expecting on a public forum? I know you're anti-free speech but are you just anti-speech in general? Why did you reply to them? What point are you trying to make?

true freedom of speech can only exist under socialism/communism.
In capitalism, the bourgeoisie controls the worker, and although we theoretically have freedom of speech, as the bourgeoisie has power over us, if he deems what we say to be wrong, he can end our jobs.
Also there is copyright under capitalism, which violates freedom of speech in itself.

Tell me again, why has all attempts of communism fallen to dictatorship? Because communism doesn't work.

Because there never were an attempt at communism in the first place

Because those "attempts" weren't actually to implement communism, but to implement dictatorships under the disguise of communism (possibly with the help of corporations, as it would help with anti-communist propoganda.)
Anyone who honestly things that Mao, Stalin, lenin, and alike were trying to implement, would be an idiot.
The only major politician I think in the soviet union that actually wanted to implement communism was trotsky, and you know what happened to him.

go back to Sup Forums

> Sup Forums is an extension of Sup Forums
please don't say that even as joke, that boards is cancer and so are all it's users

Of course. I forget. Every communist regime that called themselves communist aren't actually communist but everything even slightly involving the trading of goods is capitalism.
Listen, I've lived through communism in Poland. I know what it is like. Everyone called it communism and it was. All the means of production were siezed. Life was good for me at the time as I didn't know of any other life. Looking back now though it was awful. Low food, high work need and communist propoganda in all education. Everyone knew the means of production were siezed so it was communism. It was awful. My parents would regularly go hungry to feed me.
>>>r/leftypol

In other words Sup Forums is cancer

Really says a lot about the left and the general state of contemporary western society when any talk about free speech is met by furious leftists.

clearly not the board for that

Free speech is technology

Indeed.

One would assume that being the most destructive and genocidal ideology ever to lay waste upon earth should discourage people a little about it, but nope.

I don't care if you're desperate for attention or what but can you please not do that. I know people just want to have fun here sometimes but can you please do it in a different thread, topics like this don't deserve to be snuffed out by people posting inflammatory statements for the sake of attention or enjoyment.

A librebooted-X200 with a FSF approved OS on i2p/tor/etc should be enough to ensure my free speech? (And hide me from raging leftists)

IPFS is my jam, man.

oh fuck off

No.

I am a GPL and copyleft fanboy but no.

If a market is post scarcity such as the information realm, yes socialism works. That's why we have free software. You can copy it infinitely and everyone benefits.

If you have a scarce economy you try and foist socialism on someone will take control of something you can't fork or clone and thus the decline begins.

this

Archive.is
Niggers

KYS commie scum

*postmodernist scum
Not all them are gommies, but all them are post-modernists.

This. It really worries me that people at my old uni would call themselves commies. It's like they don't know anything about history. Sup Forums memes aside, calling yourself a commie should be on the same level as calling yourself a nazi.

I can concede to that.

>mastodon
>free speech
Read that.
my.mixtape.moe/utyttb.pdf

You don't understand the no true communism meme. Communism is a moneyless, stateless society. Those were authoritarian socialist states. You can still make fun of socialism but Communists wouldn't take you seriously otherwise.

What about Freenet? You can safely do just about anything on there.

The only thing I have yet to figure out is how to make my own website on Freenet.

"Real communism" doesn't exist

Any mainstream website

Exaclty. It never has and it probably never will.

kys faggot

github.com/blog/2503-deprecation-notice-removing-anonymous-gist-creation

>Github

He's right though.

All communists are right when they say there has never been real communism, and they'll be right until the end of time.

>free speech discussion
you're only discussing politics in this entire thread. This shit should be on Sup Forums.

a thread that's actually technology-related died for this

Wow, you're retarded.

And yet there are still people that try. What makes communism dangerous is this. Attempts at communism have always ended in an utter shit-show.

This

>Well that wasn't "Real Communism" so lets try again
>Woops we killed millions of people lol
>Well that wasn't "Real Communism" so lets try again
>Woops we killed millions of people lol
>Well that wasn't "Real Communism" so lets try again
>Woops we killed millions of people lol
>Well that wasn't "Real Communism" so lets try again
>Woops we killed millions of people lol
>Etc...

I hate how Communists are practically not censored at all despite having the most obscenely unreliable and violent political history of any fucking ideology. You either censor Nazis and Communists and shut them both down, or neither.

I'm not quite sure you know what communism is you dumb inbred.

Tell me more, the pdf doesn't mention what is wrong with Mastodon.

I see political correctness criticized in the comment sections of mainstream sites all over the web. It's like you're in a cave within a cave.

You mean being racist?

Yeah, get the fuck out

you mean say no no word? get out. this if grups swamp!

2/10 see me after class