What's your tech job like Sup Forums? I dont work in the tech sector and dont plan to, but ive always been interested in what my life would have been like had i gone the tech route professionally. What are youre favorite parts and least favorite parts of your job? would you become a techie again if you had the chance to redo this part of your life?
Technology job
i guess the memes were true. Sup Forums is actually unemployed
I'm a newfag IT tech, at school one week a month. I started almost two years ago, never touched a computer before that.
It's actually quite "fun" and interesting, I'm in an international company so I get to speak with people from all around the globe all day, really makes you think, almost like traveling for poor fagelito like me.
Favorite parts are: helping people, finding solutions, discovering more each day how fucking stupid people are
Least favorite parts: condemned to be minimum wage cuck if I stay there, that's why I intend to go for at least 2 more years of studies. Also manager is literally pajeet from another country so he doesn't give a shit about local IT issues but it sounds well to say "global IT Team"
would I redo this? Yes, but maybe choose a different school, this one is shitty.
Bamp Got an Interview for HD Manager tomorrow.
How Fucked am I?
>HD Manager
whats an HD manager?
>What are youre favorite parts
- I get to pick and choose what I want to work on
- I get to do the operations work that I like and split that between development, programming
- Pretty much anything I've written I can open source as long as I let my manager know
- Coworkers are great and atmosphere is good
- My team is small (just me, a senior guy that I get along great with, and some other guy)
>least favorite parts of your job
- The newest member of our team is pretty bad at everything we do. He was recommended as our one guy left to netflix (he was awesome, he would have stayed if it had not been for one person in particular, coincidentally a month after he left all his complaints were solved :-( ). He just takes much longer to do the same thing I'll do in a day or week.
- He asks many redundant or stupid questions; his troubleshooting skills are pretty bad
- he was hired as a mid level despite having no experience which bugs the shit out of me as a junior as I do 3-5x as much work and am much more effective
- he has a some weird social norms that bug the absolute shit out of me, e.g.: (1) trying to do work, have my headphones on, bugs me every 10-15s for some issue while I'm trying to make progress on something, ffs, let me work, (2) while you're troubleshooting something yourself he'll stare at your screen behind your shoulder, dude, wtf I'm doing this myself, do you mind? (3) anytime I have a conversation with my other coworker he'll get up and listen as a third wheel, even if the conservation has NOTHING to do with what he's doing
- our hiring practices are a little weird as of late, we hired a lot of people from a company that recently went under (they're not necessarily bad), but it seems like we're being a little bit too lenient just because they came from [x] company
- we apparently prefer to avoid hiring the regular white guy just because he's a white guy, despite the fact that he ticks all the boxes and is a perfect fit both technically and culturally
Hardware engineer here, it's p comfy desu. Been at two jobs so far since graduating and both were p laid back, projects were at least not boring but corporate environment/tech coworkers are pretty dull. Pays well tho so can't complain
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>would you become a techie again if you had the chance to redo this part of your life?
Yes, job is fairly easy once you learn the tech. The problems are interesting, and if you work for a good company you don't have to worry about paying insurance, saving 401k (I put away 12% they match 6% and they gave us a bonus of 19% to our 401k this year for example), get quarterly bonuses and random bonuses just because (our end of year bonus was 10% on top of the 401k bonus), etc.
I never really liked working with my hands or outside, so this is the best thing I could be doing to be honest.
A manager in high definition
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I work for a marketing company and I make their WordPress sites for our clients. It's extremely easy.
Best part is relaxed dress code, listen to music while I work, and within reason I make my hours. I work from home at times. People are impressed, but I made a couple themes and now use them for everything.
i want to get into programming or something for work but im currently just a technician, i build monitoring systems and servers and stuff that go out to the mines, its pretty cool because i get to mess around with lasers and stuff.
I'm 19 and have been doing IT for the last 3 years since i finished high school. I love it however the retail side of it sucks ass. Having to deal with old people and explain 5 times why some program from 2003 won't run on their new Win 10 machine gets old real quick. However it's mostly simple work and the corporate side of it is great. Doing a fair bit of department of education work at the moment as well and loving it. Get to meet a fair few interesting people and there's always something knew to learn.
>Pros
- Relatively easy a lot of the time
- Cost price from all suppliers
- Meeting a bunch of different people
- Always learning
- If you apply yourself is very easy to make money
- I work with good people
>Cons
- Dealing with spastic custormers
- Getting called at 2am because someone has had a server crash
- Fair bit of paper work for a lot of jobs
- Shit tons of book work for qualification.
Does internet marketologist count as tech job?
Does shit posting on Sup Forums count
>- The newest member of our team is pretty bad at everything we do. He was recommended as our one guy left to netflix (he was awesome, he would have stayed if it had not been for one person in particular, coincidentally a month after he left all his complaints were solved :-( ). He just takes much longer to do the same thing I'll do in a day or week.
>- He asks many redundant or stupid questions; his troubleshooting skills are pretty bad
>- he was hired as a mid level despite having no experience which bugs the shit out of me as a junior as I do 3-5x as much work and am much more effective
I had a boss like this once user. really makes you question how some of these people get through the interview process
Honestly he has skills, but not skills for this team. He should be in data science since he has ML/AI work from his PhD. On our team doing what we do he is terrible at it. He might have some ideas and utility on what he wants to do with the data, but that's not our team's primary job, that's more or less what data science is for.
I feel like he should just move to that team, it would be a huge burden off our shoulders.
>Hardware engineer here
Is that actually a thing? What is your actual degree?
I'm electrical engineering. Most people here are that or computer engineering. Tbh it's basically all just programming anyway
>Honestly he has skills, but not skills for this team.
at least he had some skills. my boss had essentially no skills
Context: I work as a software engineer
>What are youre favorite parts
I get to build something out of nothing and see people use it to do important things. I learn new things every day, and I can always find work even though I don't have a college degree. The hours are flexible, and my coworkers are great.
>least favorite parts of your job?
It's an enormous amount of pressure. I'm the only engineer with my skillset at the company, and that skillset is central to the most vital project at the company right now. Fucking up right now could literally mean the difference between the success or failure of the entire company. And because everyone is wanting to see my progress, I keep getting sucked into bullshit meetings when I have a million other more important things to do.
>would you become a techie again if you had the chance to redo this part of your life?
Definitely. I suck at school, so there's not much else interesting I could do anyway. But even if I could do something else, I'd probably pick this.
That sucks. My manager is awesome though. Management in general here is alright.
>pressure
>everyone relies on you
Share your stress and ask for a raise.
Software Engineer for a defense contractor here.
It is rather easy work. I just implement new features and do bug fixes.
Yeah don't confuse programmers with STEM
There is a reason why most computer and communication standards are done my EE associations.
Programmers are the "waste disposal engineers" of the technology field.
Already done. I was hired to be the less experienced sidekick to a rockstar they hired shortly before I joined.
Shortly after I joined, they realized the rockstar was not up to the task and that I was doing literally all the work. So they fired him and now I've got 2 engineers worth of work to do.
You better believe I asked for a raise.
lul. tho waste disposal engineers are in huge demand, that's why they get paid the most.
>What are you you are favorite parts
-enjoy my coworkers
-work for a lesser known (but huge impact) company, so no meme silly-cunt valley type brogrammers
-work at a satellite office housing only our team (no corporate chads and stacy from hr, and it's like a clubhouse)
-my company uses thinkpad laptops and all employees are issued one
-get to use thinkpad for non-work (good note taker and laptop for school)
-almost 80k salary as an intern
-work from home if i want
>least favorite parts of your job
-im an intern
Good. Well done.
Lots of people just put up with things without asking for a raise. Those won't get anywhere really.
>What's your tech job like Sup Forums?
>"Hey, my portfolio is slow."
>"Clean out your seven years worth of model data."
>"Hay, all the portfolios are slow."
>"You can pay down some of that massive technical debt with designs that haven't worked over time..."
>"Can we make a new interface instead?"
>"This sucks, I can't use it."
>"It's what you asked for and how you asked for it."
>"...but it's not what I wanted..."
Yet at the meetings, I do my best to try to get them to think things through.
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The best part is when they do this with another product and different product manager. They're all weak users and when it gets sniffed out, they get chewed out so hard.
>"Our integration with this second party service is blowing up"
>"Hey, junior, did you test this properly before handing it over to production?"
>Junior: "Uhhhhhhhh....."
I'm not even mad.
I can't even break out of this shit because my skillset is weird at this point and explaining why you want to leave after more than 5+ years is more difficult than I had originally anticipated.
Never work for a small company if you don't have to and if you do, don't stick around even if you do like your boss.
>It's an enormous amount of pressure. I'm the only engineer with my skillset at the company, and that skillset is central to the most vital project at the company right now. Fucking up right now could literally mean the difference between the success or failure of the entire company.
user, youll look back on this one day as probably one of the most valuable experiences of your life. many people never got to a point where they are given real responsibilities. even if you end up failing at this project, youll still end up with extremely valuable life lessons
100% agree. I'm learning so much (sometimes through ridiculous fuck ups), and I wouldn't trade it for anything. Even though I'm the only person who can really work on this project, everyone at the company has been incredibly supportive and patient with my failures.
>Tbh it's basically all just programming
In what language? ASM? C++?
Tech support and IT consultants should not be allowed to post here it's too depressing.
You guys are to computer scientists/engineers/otherwise professionals no different than normalfags, really.
Luckily no essential function in society is going to break down if your incompetence catches up with you so we're all in luck.
>explaining why you want to leave after more than 5+ years is more difficult
no it isn't
telling someone you're leaving to seek better opportunities is easy as hell, the hard part is not hitting the pavement at 80 mph after you quit
>this gatekeeping
Get fucked mate, we all started somewhere.
Maybe if you spent your time being more mindful and less toxic you would find that your enjoyment of life increases.
I started on 1st line and now do 2nd line support in the public sector, you'd be damn wrong if you think tech support is not an essential function. Do you not want any government or public service project to ever be completed?
Jesus Christ, this reeks of newbie blissful ignorance, we were all like you once upon a time.
But things change, and rarely for the better
Considering you computer scientists barely manage to form a coherent sentence in real life interaction and never manage to make your shitty code monkey code work outside of your dev vm someone has to be able to juryrig your shit together with every other poorly written shitty system
Well giving normals the internet was a huge and irredeemable mistake. Simplifying the networking protocols through high-level web browsers made sure Average Joe Blow could feed his addled brain on bullshit media to no end... and it allowed the Pajits of the world to copy-paste their way into minimal effort
I work in a Datacenter and help maintain Microsoft Azure infrastructure. Going on 3 years now and my job prospects for other things are looking better. Feels good man.
Nah man. My software is great. It's just that users don't know what they're doing.
user friendliness has devolved into such a tedious concept. The retards should just give up if they need us to stupefy everything. Clean abstraction is easily understood, and any software worth a damn has sufficiently descriptive manual pages.
Company?
Field I'm in (semiconductors) there's lots of C, Verilog, and some shell/perl/python scripting for tools and automation. Code quality is a lot worse in hardware; lots of EEs (including me lmao) never had to take ds&a or other programming fundamentals in school.
Tho we have a software intern here for the summer doing Qt gui stuff.
I do freelance webdev (and sometimes other programming, apps etc) from home.
>favorite parts
I can set my own schedule, there's zero dress code, I'm judged on results, and I can work on interesting projects for small companies from all over the world. I could move to a different country tomorrow and my clients wouldn't even need to know. When things are going well, it feels like a very comfy and modern way to live.
>least favorite parts
The lack of a schedule can be a problem too. It erodes work/life balance and over time I've found it harder to stay productive and motivated. The inconsistency of income is also very stressful and I essentially need to be a manager and salesman as well as a programmer.
I'm seriously considering looking for normal local full-time employment instead. It's going to be a bit of a culture shock if I do, because I've never worked in a traditional 9-5 employment environment in my life.
>Tfw considering going into tech support as a pathway to Sysadmin
Is this a good idea or is there an easier way?
completely viable with work and study, don't listen to his bait
holy shit you're retarded. do you even work in technology?
Work and study are something's I'm used to. I've planned out my certificate timeline
>A+
Before entering the field. May not be required as I have A levels in computer science and a BTEC in IT
>Network+
As soon as I have enough money saved up for it
>Server+
Mostly going to take it so I can motivate myself to create a home server.
>Security+
At this time I've most likely gotten up to level 2 tech support
>CCNA
Going to take a bit more work to get. At that time I'll be ready to become a Sysadmin.
Thoughts on this?
>culturally
Die.
certs aren't everything, but the ccna is definitely worth it. either way, experience trumps everything, so if you're studying and trying to work your way up in IT at the same time, you'll do great, especially if you're willing to relocate/change jobs when things get stale
I recommend getting into a company first as help desk and learn what you can about the equipment and software the company uses. Then focus your certs in those systems. It will endear you to the company and your coworkers and depending on the company's educational support, it might even be paid for. It helps to align a career path with the certification.
oh noes, he posted the banned word that triggers stormlards.
Finishing a software eng degree, working helpdesk for a pretty waspish Engineering (Civil) company. I actually really enjoy it even though it's only like 10% coding, the people are really good to work with and the work is extremely varied, I've learned shitloads about other areas of computing on the job, mostly relating to the scale of enterprise tier tech.
Code monkey here, not junior anymore. Clojure programmer, but slowly transitioning to DevOps.
>Pros:
+ You get to program and be paid for it
+ You can play with the newest/shiniest/coolest features of whatever technology your company is using.
+ The colleagues are mostly cool people, a little bit on a hipster side though - beards, macs, craft beers, overpriced shit collectors, etc. - but that's exactly what you get 99% of the time when you meet anyone under 30 with a 6 figures yearly salary. Apart of that, they're not bad.
+ Writing clojure is not bad, it's just not that reusable. I can cheat a little bit by saying that I worked with a JVM language, but that's about it - which is why I'm switching to DevOps.
[spoiler]Also because almost nobody among these damn macfags knows wtf is a shell...[/spoiler]
>Cons:
- You can't fix whatever you want to. You better do that useless crap the customer asked the company for, 'cause you get paid more for that. The secret is not to get invested emotionally, at the end of the day it's you who will have to fix it and get paid for it.
- Management shenanigans, these people only think about the money. It's kinda universal, I guess.
- My company has a hipster startup public image, and because of that I happen to do some overtime, sometimes. People fuck up - including myself - and a DevOps gotta always be ready to fix shit.
- Project managers can't into project management, they just do PR and think that it's enough. And the C*Os just don't get why it's a problem - which is why shit is so unorganized, sometimes.
I wouldn't change a lot about my job, apart some minor things. The location, maybe. But if I could go back, I would definitely study more, reaching master's degree in my university. I could shoot at a """"data scientist"""" or some other meme overpaid job then.
Modern work is slavery with a few extra steps
every work is a slavery - unless you're working for yourself (i.e.- have your own company).
But, I guess some people like to take less decisions and just follow with the stream. For some of us the job is not the most important thing in the life - people have hobbies, families...
I'm , and I tried to conjugate my job with my hobby. Unless you own your company - or have a lot of decision power in whichever you work for - it just doesn't work out well, because you can do fuck all toying with your hobby, but not on your job. At the end you become jaded and uninterested just like with any other one, but slightly later.
>get contacted on linkedin
>are you excited for this position?
>yes, *sends resume*
>could you please add your skype?
>sorry, I don't have skype
>what about whatsup?
>...
I mean, even if I had skype or whatsup I would tell them to fuck off, I gave them my email/number, why can't they use it?
It starts to looks like some of the memes posted here
m8 don't worry about your skillset being weird, just think of yourself as specialised and do consulting/contracting for way more money
What do you do instead? NEET? Self-employed?
Current role: Director of Software Development (aka head code monkey trash) at a virtual reality software / media startup. Started out fun as I made the prototypes that got clients interested in the company, now it sucks as I’m one of the only people capable of executing / delivering in a company full of egotistical “ideas people” who think they’re fucking genius but have no respect for the people who actually execute the insane shit our clients want. Boss is an egotistical asshole with ADHD, thinks of tech people as slaves and glorifies the “ideas people” which is stupid because ideas aren’t worth shit without the hard work of the developers i’ve been mentoring. Everyone is on minimum wage (including myself), boss has 100% equity despite the 24/7 hard work of myself and other director to get the company to where it currently is. Seriously want to move to an area where I can get a normal mundane programming job where I could make decent money, but personal life won’t allow it because wife is sick and we need that shitty pay check...
Oh god please help me get through tomorrow...
I feel you, user, shit sucks. What area do you live in - as in state/country?
Because IMO the wisest thing to do for you is to find another job with equivalent/higher salary, and then say all you just wrote here to your boss. Tell him that, if you go away he's either stuck with no lead dev and thus loses tons of money and customers - or just searches for another one, loses tons of time and money to train him just to get to the pace he is now, which ultimately makes him lose clients.
Either way, he loses - unless he does shit your way [spoiler]and gives you a raise to match or overshoot the other job offer you found[/spoiler].
You just can't reason with the business people if you haven't got any immediate tangible benefit for them.
P.s. According to your description, the part 1 might be the hardest one. Think about the fact that even searching for another job would give you a somehow better feeling - at least you're doing something to change the status quo.
Harley Davidson
>You just can't reason with the business people
period
they will never give you the same salary you can get at another shop. There is literally no ration explanation for this if you discount conspiracy theories.
>sufficiently descriptive manual pages
>expecting programmers to EVER write any form of documentation
Got some news for you senpai
Well, it's a cost/benefit ration thing. If you are the lead dev and the CEO knows that without you his growing revenue curve is going to take a ride down because of the slowing down development times - he might give it a shot. And, if he doesn't - it's your job to explain him why losing devs in a startup is dangerous, especially the lead one.
Still, at the end of the day it depends a lot on the area and on the job market you're facing.
>Nah man. My software is great. It's just that users don't know what they're doing.
get-a-load-of-this-guy.jar.MANIFEST
writing a UI is harder than you think
>>sufficiently descriptive manual pages
>>expecting programmers to EVER write any form of documentation
>Got some news for you senpai
this
sysadmins were getting paid for being ready to solve everything whenever shit hits the fan. Nowadays we got """cloud-hosted""" services, so the sysadmins disapeared and got replaced by the """""DevOps""""", who are basically a bunch of expert AWS GUI button clickers. The actual sysadmins now work with gigantic data centers with monstrous server racks, and the job is not inflated as it was before. It's basically blue-collar now - you read tons of manuals, replace servers when needed, manage cables, etc.
>What's your tech job like Sup Forums?
My job is semi-techy but not full on programming etc.
I am an engineer working for a very large North American bank. I build financial models based off public and client data for my sector. Some models are used to report financials to the SEC, some are sold. I also do a lot of data analytics and am trying to transition into strictly doing analytics (analyzing and ranking companies' positions, projecting future growth potential for companies, etc. It gets much more specific than this but trying to remain anonymous). I have a few ideas (like setting up a private SQL server, etc) but I need more time to do this.
>favorite parts
Very good pay. My own personal office. Boss is very chill and doesn't manage me at all, just distributes work and makes sure I'm alright, sometimes we collaborate on big projects.
>least favorite parts
The bankers have no idea how I do what I do and they have an ego problem. They just see the cashflows I send them and some analysis to how I derived them, but they don't really understand how I do it. This may seem like a pro, but some of the shit I give them requires a lot of work that they don't know about. So sometimes they just stroll into my office and ask me to generate a huge amount of work they're oblivious to. You need to be able to tell them to fuck off a lot.
You're also expected to be there until the job is done. Sometimes that means leaving the office at 1AM or 4AM. This usually does not happen if your team is organized and does not wait until the last minute to tell you about something.
>would you do it again?
I think I would. I like working with numbers, critical thinking, and computers. I would want a career that gives me that.
well I’m in Queensland, Australia. Would need to move south to find something sane... Building a company for an egomaniac is not sane, I found out about this guys true colours way too late. I got the short end of the stick and I just want out.
I work at SAP in the US as a software engineer. I made $64K starting, I'm making a little over $100K USD/yr (salary + typical bonus) a year.
Pros:
>money is good
>used to travel a lot, now I barely travel
>different customer problems give me an outlet for creative work (I find varied work gratifying, it's not repeat task XYZ all the time)
Cons
>money can be a problem
>I could make more money doing the same thing elsewhere but I'd have to consider the work/life balance impacts
>company is large and german therefore kind of slow and rigid.
I'm the only R programmer in my epidemiological research group.
Pros:
> I have a unique skill that allows me to do things nobody else in our group can do, thus I'm hard to fire.
> I can do the things other people need a week for in 2-3 hours, thus I get easy coauthorships.
> I taught myself, I love programming (yes I know R is not C), I love statistics.
Cons:
> I'm now a resident and can only do scientific work in the evenings and weekends, it's tiresome.
> Still just a codemonkey that gets milked for as much contribution for as little cost as possible.
> In the end what I do is calculate all kinds of correlations and make shiny figures, it's not intellectually exacting.
"Company culture" is absolute cancer, companies caring about people that fit in with their culture forces me to act like a completely different person during the interview process and at work.
Sorry, but if you're an insufferable asshole to everyone and aren't enjoyable to be around you're not going to fit in.
>R """""""programmer""""""
It's pretty crap.
IT Helpdesk operator here. Bored to hell most days
Am very well paid for what I do and also there are precious little chances for advancement either here or externally. So I stay and browse Sup Forums
I have a full time technology job at major game studio
I want to kill myself every day I go in
quit
Well, atm I don't work in the IT field but I may be soon. Went on interview for Help Desk job last week, sometime this week they'll let me know if I got it or not. While I'm qualified for the job, I've not actually done this type of work before so what am I getting into here? The scope of the job covers help desk IT for whole branch of state government which is statewide. I don't got a clue how many co-workers I'll be around. I know that for some things I pass it up the support chain but I don't want to look like a dumb ass to co-workers/bosses either.
I'd love to, but I need to eat
I don't understand, but what do devops actually do?
>worked helpdesk since high school, no degree
>got sick of it after 5 years, called myself a UX expert since I had made a website once and knew what Angular was
>got hired as a usability tester at a small company
>they didn't give a fuck so they let me call myself a ux lead
>leave there after a year, move to big company making 6 figures
it's pretty fun, happy with this career path except i don't know what i'm doing and neither does anyone else really so projects are kind of a mess, but i don't really do much so it's all good
The same thing as everyone else, scam those above them into thinking they have value
DevOPS feels more like those team leaders you used to get as a help desk that did jack shit, but managed to get paid more.
Feels like its more about organizing your code monkey coworkers than anything else.
>Simplifying the networking protocols through high-level web browsers
um.. wut?
Is it worth trying to get a job through a Linkedin recruiter? I got this email.
>Nigger McNiggerson
the american dream
>Nigger McNiggerson
kek
I ascended the ladder to IT manager in a very high demand industry, and then quit. By that point, some warez I wrote 2 years prior was getting licensed by some big businesses. Four years later, my resume has not been updated since. I make sure my clients don't have any conference calls prior to 10 AM :)
I work as that guy who fixes computers in office aka younger it techie.
What i like in that job?
- I most of time stay on my "lair" near server room, alone in peace. I dont like to deal with people for long time. So i love it.
- I dont work all day, i just have to stay in my room for 8 hours and ocassionally do "Daily quests".
- I dont deal with asshole customers
- My family dont see me as loser.
- Money
What i dont like in that job.
- E-mail related problems
- That 1 PC (Always problematic)
Why is he stealing code?
>Still just a codemonkey that gets milked for as much contribution for as little cost as possible.
your moral duty is to do as little as possible to achieve your goals i.e not to get fired or earn the promotion you wish. Free work is charity, be a professional.
low tier shit lazy ''programmers' don't want to do. I continuously contacted for devops job because my past experience, how docker/aws is a skill is beyond me, but these HR people were probably hired based on their MS office and Skype excellence so it is all good.
I work in an open space and it is killing me. What should I do? It seems that open spaces are everywhere but how can I concentrate on programming when there is always such a noise. ;_;
protip, you are paid for visibility, join the buzz to look productive, create a company hackathon or evangelize some hip language, found a coding dojo for females
no one cares about code, you are playing the pretend to be in IT game now, it is the current year ffs
>Pajeet
He's take 10% of your paycheck for the first few months as his commission.
Dat nigga be like: "I wish this was my actual job instead of LARP-ing in front of a camera about having a normal job."
Thanks I needed that
You forgot
>Con
>have to work with SAP
High Density?