What nations would you consider to be "great" nations? Nations that have done a large service towards the progress of mankind and exemplify some of its best qualities?
In no particular order:
>UK
>USA
>France
>Germany
>Italy
>Japan
>Russia (Or the USSR)
UK
USA
France
Germany
Russia
You're going to have to explain the inclusion of Japan on that list weeb
>a large service towards the progress of mankind
So, do we count in Nobel prizes for lobotomy and such?
Robotics industry desu. They're light years ahead of most
Poland
anime
Portugal and Spain.
We're just resting desu
Why list Italy? If you're going back to Rome you surely have to include many other very old civilizations. What have Italians done in the last 500 years that was near uk, us, france, germany?
I'm also not sure Russia deserves a place among those countries. Their practical, lasting accomplishments aren't that meaningful. Their only claim to fame is that they tried to do what America would have done anyway or, in many cases, did before them/more successfully.
They were and are powerful for sure, but I don't think their accomplishments will mean much for the way of life people experience in 200 years.
>Russia
I can only think of the space race, but what else is there..just asking
China and Poland is great nations considering what they achieved in ancient times
*are
And the space race wasn't even relevant, because America was better at it in the end and would have done it anyway.
If we're dealing with ancient achievement then a whole bunch of places are going above Poland.
russia sent the first man to space thus won the space race, wtf are you talking about?
also add spain and remove japan ffs
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Upvoted. Thanks to ethnical Pole Jan Czochralski, who lived in 19th century and worked for some German abteilung, what of course makes him German and me butthurt, we got technology of making cheap and large silicon monocrystals. This key advance allowed us to develop modern, semiconductor-based, miniaturized electronics. And without that we could not enjoy the Internet, its memes and valiant shitposters on it.
Really makes me think.
Russia really didn't do great with space though. They were fast, but very ineffective. Simply put, America wouldn't have launched the rockets Russia used to get to space. NASA waited until they were entirely sure their guys would be safe and the technology was perfect.
Russia shouldn't get responses for irresponsibility, and their countless failures in other missions clearly show their ineptitude.
thank u polan
why are americans incapable of accepting their defeat?
canadians: winning is losing
amerisharts: losing is winning
dont add this philosophy to your list of accomplishments ffs lol
praise polan t b h
This is a stupid criteria for achievement. Can't take this seriously.
It's not about winning or losing, it's about the long-term implications and success of an achievement. We're talking about countries that have contributed the most to the state of humanity. Countries that have done things that make us proud collectively to be human.
Russia sent up a sloppy rocket and have done hardly anything since. America has accomplished a thousand times more than Russia has in relation to space, Russia can only claim that they were first.
In 500 years America's pioneering of space travel will still be remembered as the root of space exploration, whereas Russia's technicality of being first then literally doing nothing will be a footnote.
Fun fact: Yuri Gragarin had a 60% chance of dying on that mission due to Russians deciding to skip the extra week of stress tests like the Americans did (who would have considered the mission unacceptably risky).
> Nations that have done a large service towards the progress of mankind
>exemplify some of its best qualities
>USA
Are we deducting points for all the outright fucked up stupid evil things they've done?
They also had no way of aborting the launch if the booster malfunctioned in the first 20 seconds after liftoff. Sergei Korolev felt terrible about it, but there was nothing he could do.
I think cunts that progressed the notions of freedom of opportunity despite their contemporaries are great, as are cunts that consciously chose to go against the grain.
Examples could include
>Dutch Republic during the early Reformation period, letting a new economic model flourish
>Swiss during the early modern period, for trying out what would've been a radically different political structure
>Mongols for their egalitarian approach to recruitment and governance
>Ancient Persia for actually codifying the rights of the citizenry
Plenty of examples, but those are some obvious ones.
>Russia sent up a sloppy rocket and have done hardly anything since
The Vega probes in the 80s were the last time they did anything cool.
always knew poland was great
Don't bother he is eternally asspained at the us fire some vague reason. I'm just waiting for him our some one else to post the butthurt russia won the space race image so i can laugh at him
T. Butthurt Aztalan Activist
Many of the early Russian launches were stunt flights designed to one-up the US, but had no real scientific value. There wasn't originally any plan for manned missions beyond Vostok, until Kennedy's Moon challenge forced them to react.
That's the Mexico is White troll, Spongebob.
All beaners have been eternally butthurt since 1848. It's natural for them.
UK and France. France just flew too close to the sun in the early 1800's.
The Russian space program is just a low-cost freight service now.
Folding swords
lol amerisharts cant possibly conceive that russia has done contributions to mankind included significant advance of space exploration which won them the space race?
it was all ruse of no value to make americans 'seem' like they were losing! but thats impossible because even when losing americans win right!
how asspained must one be to hallucinate like this? lol
Those that are existing right now?
France
Germany
Britain
Russia
China
Japan
Polanki.
Nope, try again
Not at all but putinboos live to exaggerate what Russia has done. Without taking into regards their actual culture and accomplishments.
modern world we live in today is a product of clash and cooperation among these countries after all
*love
the space race was about more than who sent what into space first, it was a decades long competition for supremacy in space.
list of panamian space accomplishments.txt
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>no America
if it was decades long id say russia won since they created the space station and still launch people into space
heck, everyone else agrees that they won. if anything, its only americans that arent capable of understanding this somehow
>if it was decades long id say russia won since they created the space station
Most of the ISS modules were made by the US though.
> and still launch people into space
Using a 50 year old spacecraft on a 60 year old rocket.
Maybe in 500 years we'll talk, but right now America is hardly comparable to any of those.
We're punching well above our weight in terms of historical relevance for such a new country senpai
>they created the space station
no they didn't
>still launch people into space
most of the people who go into space aren't russian. and the only reason people use russian boosters is because it's cheaper and there's a mutual agreement.
>everyone else agrees that they won
lol no
OK, so please tell me where's the finish line of this race? LEO? Moon? Mars? Proxima? Where is the end of space, so we can see without a doubt, who reached it first?
If for a decade Russia for some reason stops to shoot its rockets on the orbit, would you say Russians still won the second place and Americans (or whoever will carry the duty) were one before last?
America will define the last 200 years in history books. America shapes culture right now. America is by far the most powerful country, like it or not.
If America fell apart today it would still be among the most important all-time countries. Any argument against this is wilingful ignorance. No country has ever had as large of a military advantage over the rest of the world. No country has ever produced more revolutionary technologies than America has in the last 40 years.
Japan's machines are incredible, for example, but America has a level of ingenuity that really hasn't been matched in the technological age.
Your country exists for 300 years and achieved less then the Netherlands or Portugal did in the same amount of time. You are on par with other former colonies.
Oh please
>Your country exists for 300 years and achieved less then the Netherlands or Portugal did in the same amount of time.
Netherlands and Portugal dominated as a sole superpower?
>achieved less then the Netherlands or Portugal did in the same amount of time.
Proofs?
The scary thing is, I think you are actually serious.
yeah they created and launched the first space stations
did they take that away from your history textbooks? i guess they would because nothing could have possibly happened after you decided you won ... lol wtf. "all a ruse"
I would refer you to history books, but that is an insurmountable challenge for you.
Prove him wrong?
The only country comparable to the U.S. In terms of total innovations would be the UK or Germany.
>Russian history books
Jesus.
>industrial revolution
>digital revolution
>gulag revolution
Pick the least favourable.
>make an obviously inane, outrageous claim
>get called out
>start asking for proofs
American logic 101
Does your country not teach how debates work? If you say someone is, you're supposed to support why. You can't just ask them for further evidence or act like evidence for your unpopular opinion is common knowledge.
No history book places America as anything less than astounding - this is coming from a very proud German who is presently teaching in America on a grant.
>>make an obviously inane, outrageous claim
The U.S. is important is an outrageous claim? Kek
>yeah they created and launched the first space stations
Skylab was the first to be completely successful and didn't fail in orbit or the crew died. :^)
>I'm totally not american, you guys
>btw America is the bestest
This is North Korea-tier.
>America will define the last 200 years in history books.
Maybe 60.
Russia will define the last 200 years in history books. Russia shapes culture right now. Russia is by far the most powerful country, like it or not.
If Russia fell apart today it would still be among the most important all-time countries. Any argument against this is wilingful ignorance. No country has ever had as large of a military advantage over the rest of the world. No country has ever produced more revolutionary technologies than Russia has in the last 40 years.
Poland's machines are incredible, for example, but Russia has a level of ingenuity that really hasn't been matched in the technological age.
75 or 71
either when we joined the war in force or when we dropped the bomb
20 at best
are u stupid ?
USSR + Russia and the US defined the last 67 years
Maybe the bomb.
Regardless the USA becomes big after Europe tries killing itself the 2nd time. Before that it's irrelevant.
>Mexilards and Ruskies claiming the U.S. Dindu nuttin out of sheer butthurt.
Too funny desu
Exactly, before it was both USSR and USA.
this is more akin to mk ultra where the subject creates an alternate reality to cope with things he denies. its beyond propaganda.
absolutely, however imagine if every american person and american unit of equipment magically melted and disappeared in 1941
the world would be a very different place
it definitely gradually rose from 0 to 100 starting in 1941 and culminating in 1945/1946
Nah, the U.S. was relevant by 1900. Even the Germans acknowledged that in Venezuela
>Does your country not teach how debates work?
It doesn't actually, we just blame all of our problems on the stupid Americans.
oh sorry, i thought you were saying america didn't matter whatsoever
you must agree that the USA is the most powerful militarily and that USSR/Russia was/is the only country that is a conventional military threat to them in any way
war vs russia would be devastating while war vs turkey would be cute
That's not even what MK Ultra was about
A better one. Can you melt away right now? That would be swell. Finally, world peace.
>World peace
But Russia and Russians still exist?
US military is obviously the most powerful, no one argues about that.
kek
i wish u could melt the americans who want war, but sadly they put us at risk because they do not have sex and only get sexual pleasure when they cause conflict and death
You mean non Russians?
European theatre would have took a bit longer to finish up, Soviets would have had a bigger chunk of Germany. Pacific theatre would have been a mess until India goes war economy.
Economically yes, however the USA was still isolationist as shown by your sub-par showing in World War 1.
No, Ivan. We are the world peace.
Yes, we. Maybe I'm small part of the play here, but still the part. On your side things were and still are... different.
kek, if u could melt the faggot warhawks in government i'd be happy
yea
>the USA was still isolationist
Not really desu. We even participated in the Boxer rebellion with all the cool kids
Hey, this a thread about countries that contributed the most besides Poland. Obviously, Poland is beyond our mortal comprehension, it's influence on humanity is innumerable.
lewd
Barely. When compared to the actual relevant nations of the time you did nothing of note.
Remove proxy, Putinbot.
Really because the image of America as the world police or arbitor started during that time
>When compared to the actual relevant nations of the time you did nothing of note
We sent more troops than Germany, France or Italy
In fact, the only ones who send more were Japan and the UK.
you said they created THE space station, not that they merely launched the first one, boy.
>did they take that away from your history textbooks?
haha holy fuck how would you even know what a textbook is? do they even have books in your shithole non-country?
That Kremlin shill ITT possess surprisingly good English skills. What happened? Last time I checked they used Google translate for propaganda purposes.
Nah it didn't. Your military was awful.
>We sent the 3rd highest amount of troops, we relevant.
K.