This thread is about the appreciation of horology, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch, clock, or other timepiece.
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Does taking the bezel off effect the water resistance enough that I cannot swim with it?
No, the bezel just provides extra shock resistance.
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>They're also always metal band.
Not 100% true, but you can change the bracelet for a strap of your liking. I wear a diver but very rarely use the metal bracelet.
My current collection.
Just sold two watches to fund a new one but now paralysed by choice! I have £20k saved and was planning to put it into a mortgage but thinking I wouldn't mind dropping a grand or two on a decent watch.
What kind of watch do you want?
Well I was hoping that £2k would get me into Rolex or Omega territory if I go used. I love Omega Speedy but get a bit baffled by the hundreds of versions.
For me the perfect watch doesn't exist. Except for pic related in 39mm but it never got made.
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How viable would that databank be for use as a password manager?
Are there any major convenience issues that would prevent its use as such?
Waiting to see what Basel has to offer this year
You're not getting a speedmaster professional for that kind of money no. And the other versions all have shit movements.
You could get an old Rolex for that money though I suppose.
Not an old Rolex anyone would want
You could store passwords in there as contact names but you'd need a backup in case the battery ran flat.
Well nothing wrong with getting the classic Speedy. Over 2k but a good watch. Maybe just spend a bit more and get that or a Datejust, Air King, or Oyster Perpetual.
Don't you like any Sinn or Damasko?
hopefully rolex doesn't decide to pump out anything too horrendously behind the tread
(and by the trend I mean this gradual reversal from the ultra-conspicuous dinnerplate style shit watches have become over the past decade)
So contact name listings are alphanumeric? Can you add symbols to that too?
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I visit this thread regularly just to see the new 'required viewing' videos. Keep it up OP. This one was particularly cool.
I;m not particularly fond of any Sinn watches. I'll check out Dmasko now.
I'm pretty tempted by this Stowa.
Someone who's desperate to get a Rolex on their wrist would want them. Honestly some of the cheap models aren't too bad, but there are better watches for the price.
Jesus Christ that movement is gorgeous.
>I'm pretty tempted by this [generic chinese made case].
Go more honest archimede, or go fullretard and get that lame iwc instead. The middle ground is full of peril.
(shitter peril)
only .,?!:'/+-
Also it's only uppercase.
The Archimede is like half the price...
The best Rolex for the lowest price is probably the 14000
>If a part of the watch is made in China it is automatically bad!
Stop
I don't think we'll see anything drastic. Rolex usually play it safe by updating existing models or releasing metal/colour changes.
My wish would be to see a return of the old case style for the Sub with thinner lugs
Show me a good running men’s Rolex for 2k
>14000
That looks quite nice in blue.
Everyone has their cases made in China. It's either China or Switzerland, and Switzerland is the same quality for twice the price.
>Everyone has their cases made in China.
No.
You imply that I think the cases are bad because they're made in china?
If the faggot is charging made in germany prices for his cases, but actually getting them made in china, you are just giving him free money.
I don't like the idea of just giving away free money to some company for no reason, especially for a generic flieger look no even unique to that (resurrected) brand in the first place.
It's like those retards that buy expensive sneakers made in vietnam for $2 and sold for 200++.
What brands (that aren't part of a group) get their cases from Switzerland for watches under $1000?
How much you think a Rolex costs to make, senpai?
comfy af user.
You never specified that you were limiting your claims to watches that retail for $1,000 or less. Under that price you are correct.
Which one?
Also, pretty surprising that the MM300 looks so much smaller than the Pelagos when held side by side.
>How much you think a Rolex costs to make, senpai?
Actually costs a fair bit since Rolex makes everything in western Europe and does so to a high quality standard. Yes Rolex overprices their watches, but don't make the mistake of thinking that their watches are cheap to make.
Yeah I obviously didn't actually mean "everyone".
But the problem with Stowa isn't that their cases are made in China. It's that they're overpriced (the Flieger in particular).
The cases are absolutely fine.
It's because of the smaller bezel and dial diameter, the MM300 case extends a fair bit instead of the vertical cliff that is the pelagos case.
I would go Pelagos. It's a more functional design and its movement has better shock resistance properties for both accuracy retention and damage due to the beefy balance bridge free sprung design.
Rolex reportedly has the craziest logistics system in the world. Every single component of a watch is tracked. A watchmaker can summon a component from the depths of the warehouses and it will automatically be delivered.
They put a fuckton of money in development. Actually making the watches doesn't cost them that much, but they're reinvesting all of those benefits and keep improving the movements and all aspects of production, at a pretty impressive rate compared to the rest of the industry.
>the first wristwatch with a coaxial escapement is a beat to complete shit nautilus
I don't know if I'm impressed or disappointed.
Tudor is way nicer. Seiko is so dull.
Pelagos all the way
I sure if you give it a bit of a lick and rub it would be spiff as crisp.
>Actually making the watches doesn't cost them that much, but they're reinvesting all of those benefits and keep improving the movements and all aspects of production, at a pretty impressive rate compared to the rest of the industry.
From an accounting perspective those research and development costs, both for technical aspects of the watches and for creating the capital equipment and processes to produce on the order of a million watches a year at the targeted quality levels ARE costs of making the watches.
Rolex essentially had to develop, from scratch, the capital equipment and logistics required to produce nearly a million watches a year at Rolex quality levels. It's probably the highest volume produced complex mechanical object at that level of quality ever produced in world history. It's incredibly impressive what Rolex achieves producing at the volumes they do.
Is that a prototype or something? 'Cause roger smith says patek never actually adopted the coaxial escapement.
Yeah, the article is on Hodinkee. They never adopted it but they tried it out. This was one of the prototypes that Daniels modified with his escapement.
Anyone know where I can get good quality leather in 19mm?
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Thanks user I’ll check it out, hadn’t thought of that
Get something custom made by either ABP Paris or Camille Fournet.
Pelagos no question m8.
I don't even like that watch but that one is cool as all hell. I would wear that as a daily if it wasn't a museum piece.
Yes a return to the pre-maxicase era cases would be ideal.
Seiko because no-one should have to live with the Tudor’s crown placement.
I do love Tudors, though.
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that actually looks pretty nice for some reason. I might attempt that
Been looking for a GMT/Dual Time watch that I can use while traveling. What do you guys think of pic related?
Around $220 shipped.
Jesus Christ what an ugly pile of shit
Found the seiko male
>Been looking for a GMT/Dual Time watch that I can use while traveling. What do you guys think of pic related?
idk are they plastic lol what movement kek
2 tone is shit. also watches without quickset date have no place in a collection (which most of us have)
not him though
A gold 2 tone is worth a lot more than that if it is in running condition
only good if you are 60+ tho
IDK they are stainless I supposed, the black one cost more because its Ion something. Movement is made by ETA which is not made by Seiko so I have no idea where it came from. I have no idae if its battery or the swirling kind.
oh wait that's pounds not euros or dollars
yeah maybe you could get an out of service old man watch for that
eta means generic swiss, if they are steel case with an eta that's not a bad price, never heard of that brand though
Do you recommend something cheaper? I just need anything with quick dual time zones. Like I own a G-Shock for work but to get to the fucking local and home time I had to change modes, I just want to look down and see what time America is.
You switched the names.
The Seiko has much more interesting compound shapes and alternating finishes; while the Pelagos is blocky and all matte.
I am personally not a big GMT guy but I am sure you can find one cheaper that is OK, you will probably not find an ETA GMT very much cheaper.
Just depends on what you want, a lot of chronographs have the ability you are talking about
I am sure someone here will suggest something but a mechanical steel ETA is going to be $200+ unless I am mistaken
When are these parasites going to fly to japan and leave our watch threads be? No one wants you here seiko.
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I honestly don't need a 200m swiss made whatever for $200 just to tell time for a few months. I also don't want a timex either, like a Seiko automatic maybe for around $100.
Why?
#BornToDare
Riddle me this /wt/. You people complain on and on about generic ETAs cased up and sold at a high profit. Well I recently discovered your precious little Al Archer who everyone jerks off to here (because apparently all of wt is in southern Ontario) makes his own brand of watches. They are literally just pocket watch movements in big ass cases and only tick at 18k. How can you possibly defend this, he charges 1k+ for them. Please I want to be wrong here but this forum is a southern Ontario circle jerk
Here you go.
>when he pays for dinner and smells nice but isn't really #borntodare
For one thing, Al Archer's reputation and skill as a watch repairer have nothing to do with the watches he assembled and sells. His reputation on the vintage Omega forums is as solid as it gets.
Secondly, why don't you email him and ask what work he does on the watches that would result in that pricing. I'm sure he'd be happy to answer what he is putting into them.
Everyone scroll up and see the samefagging on both sides for the purpose of trolling.
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Nigga they don’t even hack
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Probably one of the nicest implementations of a date window. It fits perfectly and does not ruin the dial.
The whole watch overall is pretty neat looking.
One poster was shitposting in favor of and against Seiko to stir up arguments. I deleted my post responding to one of his trolls when I saw that all his posts got deleted and he got temp banned.
Why so defensive? There are way better looking datejusts. This one is super ugly because of the bland dial color and the fugly indices. Datejusts with roman or arabic numerals look way better, imho.
What is wrong with Seiko brand Seikos?
Also why would anyone get banned on Sup Forums for talking about watches in a watch thread?
Nothing is wrong with Seikos, something is wrong with a troll trying to turn /wt/ into OS-wars by false-flagging and shitposting in both directions.
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I wish Rolex made a $500 watch, just saying
Their entire production line would be pointless if they did that
Buy a Tudor then
Dont waste your time, its probbably the same dude, posting andy sixx all over b for months.
I dont get the seiko solar meme. I miss when trolling was good.
Just time travel back a few decades then.
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>posting andy sixx all over b for months.
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They call it Soyko because of the soyboy meme.
Lurk moar, faggot.
Nice to see that the marketing department was always cringy.
Fucking hiroshima needs to put a wordfilter on soy, I'm so sick of these shitty Sup Forums memes escaping their containment board.
I personally don't even know what soyboy means, and I have been here 10 years.
Like soybeans? I honestly don't get it
They should start enforcing board containment rules on Sup Forums with the same level of viciousness they did on /mlp/. It's the only way to stop the cancer turning half the boards on here into sub-boards of Sup Forums.
>board containment rules on Sup Forums
>people are glad to have a possibility to be as non pc and mean as they want
>Hurrr, lets censor it because the memes fit me.
You are part of the PC "culture" problem. Whats the problem when somebody says soyboy or soyko or kike or other pol stuff? Are you that weak that you need to be completly shielded from those words? Well, reddit is just a few clicks away, my friend.