P2P onion messengers

The privacy-conscious part of Sup Forums shills Riot.im pretty hard and seems to like Signal and Wire, but all of these rely on a having server connecting the clients. You hardly see any mentions of true peer-to-peer messengers -- not even Tox any more. Why is that? Is anybody here aware of Briar (briarproject.org) and Ricochet (briarproject.org/), which are not only P2P but hide your IP address using Tor? Have you used them?

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ricochet.im/.
matrix.org/docs/guides/faq.html#what-is-the-difference-between-matrix-and-xmpp
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Ricochet is ricochet.im/.

Moxie wrote about the downsides to P2P. For one thing, it drains your battery. It must be ever worse with TOR.

>battery
stay on your laptop, nurd

Tor is for terrorists you idiot

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Riot doesn't rely on a centralised server owned by a company or anything, you can easily run your own server.
It's still not P2P but that's a lot better than Signal or shit like that.

You can also easily run a Signal/Wire server. The problem with Signal/Wire is that you will have to recompile the client with your custom settings and get other people to install your custom client app. In other words, it's the client, not the server, that's the problem.

Federation could be a viable alternative, but Signal has disabled its federation and Wire's developers have only "considering implementing" it "in the future".

Why do I need a P2P IM? I'm genuinely curious what's wrong with some open source XMPP client + OpenPGP?

No it isn't, silly!

>It's for people trading child porn for drugs.

Nobody uses encryption unless it's built in.

p2p means you're sharing your computer with jews, spooks, and pedos

wat

Why would I want a true P2P service as opposed to a federated one?

>XMPP + OpenPGP
Who the fuck does that, instead of XMPP+OTR/OMEMO?

Who the Fuck does that instead of using Riot

Why did XMPP fail, anyway?

Signal is a botnet.
Use Silence.

Doesn't Silence work over SMS?

matrix.org/docs/guides/faq.html#what-is-the-difference-between-matrix-and-xmpp
It's a comparison but brings out the negative points of XMPP

Thanks, user. I bet
>Baseline feature set is so minimal that fragmentation of features between clients and servers is common, especially as interoperability profiles for features have fallen behind
was key to killing it. I remember running into custom feature incompatibility a decade ago.

Just use fucking Tox

Just audit fucking Tox.

bump

Tox is a poop

Non-p2p means someone has access to what you have said, which they can leverage against you. For example, a honeypot server can be setup easily. Not to mention you can be banned from a room for arbitrary reasons, single-sidedly in a way that prevents discussion because people must suck up to the server owners. p2p fixes these issues.

why?

I'll give briar a spin, but I doubt I'll use it for long since I have nobody to talk to.
But the project itself sounds like a great idea.

>I have nobody to talk to
How about other Sup Forumsents?

It's phone-only
>into the trash

It's still a good concept.

Why the peppers?

Yeah, I especially like the inbuilt support for forums and blogs on top of chatrooms. Now if only it allowed anonymous posting.

>but all of these rely on a having server connecting the clients
They point is that you can have your own server, same as with e-mail.

XMPP nigger.

And that's not good.

Nigger have you heard of end to end encryption?
XMPP is decentralized just like email, everyone can host a server.

(You)