If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >NO R3 1200/1300X or R5 1400/1500X. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY THE R3 2200G AND R5 2400G >G4560 - non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 2200G - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) or for gaming WITHOUT a graphics card >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming (especially the i5 8400) or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 1600) >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200 >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
here. Last time polluting the thread i promise. Here is what i ended up going for de.pcpartpicker.com/list/srbYJ8. I read in the op that ryzen is picky with ram, i found a list but it doesn't list F4-3000C16S-8GISB. Should i just go straight up for the fastest ram?
Carson Wright
I want to buy a 1440p monitor, but my GPU is just a 1050ti. Is it okay to game at 1080p windowed? if so, how does it look like?
Austin Reed
>being triggered by components it's more likely you'll suicide before anyone here
Brandon Russell
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Benjamin Ward
Looking for a cooler to go with my Ryzen 1600x since apparently there's no stock cooler with them.
Suggestions? I have a Cooler Master HAF 912 usb towe
Henry Collins
>drop the cooler onto the cpu socket >bent some of the pins kill me
how do i start becoming competent at judging what components are good and bad? the most confusing things to me are the cpu and ram. all i see with cpus are the ghz, and for ram, the amount of memory. basically i want to become one of the people who's competent enough about hardware to suggest things to others.
Zachary Wright
>GeForce GTX 1050 ti >8GB RAM >AMD RYZEN 5 1600 Six-Core >runs worse than my 6 year old rig I had previously
I can't even maintain 60 fps on World of Warcraft on low settings. What the actual fuck.
James Long
likely people bitching about it interfering with ram kits. The Wraith Max is an updated version of the Wraith, and the Wraith Max itself is getting an update this year to become the Wraith Prism.
Ayden Powell
No need. Clumsy shitter like you is bound to stumble and fall out of a window any moment.
Mason Moore
Almost entirely unrelated, but after only playing WoW on a Laptop for a few years I recently built a proper desktop and fuck me, but the graphics of the game sure got updates. Shit's looking great with everything at max.
Austin Bailey
realistically speaking will the nvidea's april announcement have any impact on the current gpu prices? is there any hope for price drop?
Landon Flores
2200G or 2400G? A lot of reviews seem to think the 2400G isn't worth the extra 70 bucks
Adam Fisher
>poozen there's your problem
Ryan Gray
There's not going to be an April announcement. And if there was it still wouldn't effect things. There would still be the "ram shortage" and miners will still be buying everything they could get their hands on.
Jackson Baker
I forgot to specify, our flooring are TILES (pic related) and we go barefoot. I might use a large wooden table. I'm this poster btw. So there are no problems as long as I keep touching the unplugged case like a kids game/anti-static wristband clipped to case, and build it naked?
Sebastian Hill
Anybody else find the concept of using an nvidia gpu with AMD could to be weird? it feels awkward like mixing chocolate with ketchup
Jason Gomez
Reminder to not be memed into buying a dual core central processing unit in current year. Fucking phones , TVs and refrigerators have quad core processors. >>G4560 Get sick of cancer, braindamaged corporate tool.
Samuel Ross
>imagine being nr.2 at everything you do
Connor Murphy
Save the $70 and get high speed Ram and OC that 2200G and you have performance on par or better then a 2400G.
I'm starting to think that the 2400G drivers a fucked though it'll be fixed at one point.
Nolan Martin
2200G if all you want is an APU that can play vidya with the iGPU. 2400G if you're going to use the computer for things other than vidya and shitposting or if you're planning to get a decent GPU later. The extra CUs on 2400G don't really make a difference because it's bottlenecked by RAM bandwidth, but SMT is pretty significant benefit for CPU.
Noah Fisher
Best monitor set up /PCBG/?
Jayden Richardson
27 or 32" horizontal main, 21" vertical for reading/ reference material and a 32" or larger on the wall for media/ background stuff
Adam White
I currently have a gaming PC i bought cheaply in 2010 with a dual-core processor, some new games actually seem quite interesting today though, what do I need to just play modern games decently?
Aaron Harris
>>State the budget & CURRENCY for your build ~1300€ including monitor >>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work Gaming: PUBG, GTAV, WOT, Kingdom come, Fallout 4 >>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable) gaming anything cost effective Monitor 1080p 144hz 1ms
Asher Cook
just spent £3000
>fractal design define mini c >acer xb252q 24.5" 1ms frameless g sync (240hz) >asus rog strix z370 g >i7 8700k >evga 1080ti >32gb corsair vengeance rgb >samsung 960 pro m.2. 512gb >seagate barracuda 7200 4tb >masterliquid 240 aio
already had all my peripherals prebought
>logitech g pro >hyper x cherry mx red tkl >cougar gripped mouse bungee >vivo single monitor arm >corsair polaris + mm200 >sennheiser hd 650s
desk ikea alex/karlby walnut 240cm and a maxnomic chair since I couldnt find anything that had serious lumbar for a decent price that wasnt a tatty office chair
thoughts? should I delid the i7? or should you only do that with liquid metal paste - where can I find some? newegg only has one option for £400 which is dumb
all thats missing is speakers and a mic which I cant afford right now
Liam Parker
Will more ram save me, my computer is running faster overall, but, games run like shit for some reason
Eli Nguyen
its the cpu without a doubt, you could go for 16gb but the cpu is the culprit here especially for nu-wow
Justin Price
Ryzen sucks for WoW since it values more single core performance. Intel was the way to go with this game.
Jose Green
Is there a way to simulate old GPU performance using modern ones? I know you can easily underclock the GPU itself to match the clock speed of the old one but can you like turn shader units off, disable specific amounts of VRAM, cap memory bandwidth, etc?
Evan Sullivan
I think you can downclock VRAM as well. But even if you COULD do all of that, it still wouldn't simulate the performance of old GPUs accurately.
Samuel Gonzalez
I mean, I don't know shit about anything really but my old CPU was fucking old. I just thought an upgrade would be an upgrade.
Landon Lewis
so what are my options here, just bite the bullet and overpay for 1050ti or hope for better next year?
Juan Barnes
Sounds reasonable. I just built a similar rig. Only thing I'm unsure of is the XB252. Is the 240Hz really that important to you that you'd go with a 24" 1080p over 27" 1440p IPS? I bought the 271HUT and it's fucking great.
Lucas Allen
buy it msrp from evga/ nvidia store
Adrian Cook
Do you know what cpu it was?
Ryzen will be good for newer games but games like that aren't so well.
Alexander Cruz
I had an i7 3770
Tyler Morales
Served you right for listening to pajeet shills. If you want to play game Intel is still the undisputed king. Period.
Julian Cook
Technically the i7-3770 beats ryzen in single core performance. Although it might match it if you overclock it? I also believe if you get a kit of 2x8GB 3000 MHz ram it will improve speed.
The thing is ryzen relies heavily on ram speed in order to catch up to i7-3770. Ryzen was technically a side grade in your case. Sorry m8
Bentley Adams
So how long should I wait to build a decent PC? I just want to play some AAA game on the highest settings
Jose Bennett
Nice OP Vandalism juan
Henry Rivera
It will be a while, honestly just do your best to find good deals right now because it's really unsure how long it will take.
Estimating at least one year but even that isn't really accurate.
James Hughes
Technically you are a mongoloid
Grayson Thompson
Damn, guess I'll just wait for a while then.
Carson Butler
>@3500MHz
Intel can go higher that's why its better, pajeet.
Landon Watson
PUBG needs a GTX 1060 6Gb at least.
Ryan Torres
i can always upgrade later since I didnt cheap out on the card
Lucas Nguyen
>imagine being sued for anti-competitive practices constantly and having to bribe prosecutors and judges all the time
Isaiah Butler
I’m about to buy a used PC from a shut down business. I5-4590 and 4GB 1333MHz Ram with a 500GB HDD. £100
Or get a complete build in a small optilex case that comes with a cheap monitor and operating system, 8GB RAM, i5 3470, and 500GB HDD. >£150
What do I go for? I want to put something like a RX480 in there.
Jordan Reed
You go for save a little longer and buy new you retard
Liam Gray
>You go for save a little longer and buy new you retard He's going to save for a while though. if you want something easy and fast I guess Option #2 would be good to plug and play.
Although i5s are dying so not sure how long that will last you.
Tyler Campbell
I just want something that’ll last me 2/3 years that doesn’t cost me £600+
Wyatt Davis
>small optilex case forgot this... not sure if a rx 480 will fit though. And I think these prebuilts have weird mobo form factors. I think you could get a better deal?
Charles Carter
I was going to rip the Mobo out and chuck it in another case
But yeah I might just get a second hand Real pc
Grayson Sullivan
Depends on the Optiplex in question. If it's an SFF, than only a low profile 1050Ti would fit as the highest end video card you can get in it. If it's a mini tower, any RX 480 should fit, though you'd need to upgrade the power supply
Camden Martinez
>I was going to rip the Mobo out and chuck it in another case I'm not sure how you would deal with the proprietary fron i/o connectors...
Landon Clark
My 280x just died, is there a decent GPU I cp ould get for ~200€ that would go with my FX8170 or should I just buy a fucking laptop ?
Nicholas Rogers
Maybe you could find a good deal. Ideally I would at least get a second gen i7 or higher, 8GB of Ram, and At least 1050ti or higher. Overclockable would be great too. Windows 10 you use for free and get a $5 code on ebay if you want. An ssd would be nice for the Operating system.
Blake Miller
>needing to overclock to be better so intel is pentium 4 now?
optane is a terrible meme >only compatible with expensive platform >more expensive than large SSD >basically glorified cache >not even enough capacity for muh games
just get a 250 or 500gb SSD and a 2tb mechanical HDD
This seems like a really good, perhaps best even, buy at $1150. Am I a fool to do this or just wait for prices to go down on RAM and GPUs (if ever)?
Hunter Thompson
Sounds pretty based. Are they a hindrance or do they become useful once you get used to them?
Nolan Campbell
i waited last year and prices only climbed, i just pulled the trigger last night,
id like to convince you to do the same but literally noones knows, I asked this in like nov and people told me to wait and it cost me 1k more
just buy something you can afford that will last you at least 5 years to ride this all out
Thomas Williams
It all depends on your usage case. Great for software (lets be real here, its for vidya) that has lots of actions - many of which you might want to do at the same time. It is why MMO's and RTS games benefit immensely from such bindings. Even a simple example might be an FPS game - binding weapon choices to your mouse keys instead of 1-9 can let you switch weapons faster without awkward finger positioning associated with a keyboard.
I personally don't have a mouse with extra buttons as they get in the way of my concrete crushing grip I have.
>find a good prebuilt with ryzen 1600, b350, 8gb 3000mhz, 1tb hdd and gtx 1070 for 1k € >don't buy it since Sup Forums told me to wait for ryzen2 and new nvidia gen >apparently nvidia won't announce anything and ryzen2 is only a 0.3ghz frequency boost >check the prebuilt again >costs 30% more thanks Sup Forums.
Eli Thompson
That does sound cool. It could definitely help me in Dayz because it's such a fuck around using the keyboard to do certain actions. My previous mouse was a £4 one with two buttons and a scroll wheel, the kind I'm used to. This fucking thing is like an aircraft carrier in comparison and is taking a little getting used to. Thanks for the help senpai.
Ryan Hughes
Well, I never do prebuilts, but this would be #2 on a whim. I am actually fine with this stupid $500 HP with an i5 7400 and 1060 3g, just the cooling is a mess. I figure the Dell would have better components and a total upgrade.
Hunter White
You're welcome.
Lincoln Thompson
Should have listened to the intel shills telling you POOzen was going to be shit this year.
>.1GHz difference >$99 more This is why Intel is a fucking joke.
Brody Collins
>2600k @ 4.5 GHz >comparing a gold sample massive 1.2ghz overclock to a small 300 mhz bump Every Intel cpu overclocking to the moon is a fucking myth only perpetuated by shills, and you really seem like one now
or it will just stutter and be unusable because it only had 8 threads
Bentley Garcia
I picked this up on Wednesday, it's a great deal for a solid computer. The GPU and CPU alone cost nearly $900 right now, and you're getting a decent looking case, standard MB, 16GB ram and a 7200 1TB HDD on top of that.
I never buy pre-builts. The last one I bought was in the very early 2000s, since around 2006 I've been building my own PC every few years, but sadly this was the most economical solution right now for me to just get a better system / videocard over my aging FX 8350 / GTX 970 setup I had before.
That said, I had many problems getting this thing set up. Fair warning; DO NOT cancel the Windows update that starts automatically after turning it on for the first time. I learned that the hard way, had some real strange issues happen with Windows update and disk usage and had to do a clean install again just to get things working properly. The update takes several hours, just let it run.
Also, despite all that, I'm still having some strange as fuck disk usage 100% problems when I boot up every now and then, and I'm currently trying to figure out how to stop it.
The only con I really have is the GPU runs kind of hot, as it's a blower configuration. Running Deus Ex Mankind Divided at 1440p at maximum settings I'm getting decent FPS, around 50-60, but GPU temps soar to 80C+. CPU temps mostly go around 50C maximum under heavy load, idle around 30C.
Daniel Flores
The $99 cheaper one, the 8600K, is literally higher rated too.
Ryzen >>> Intel. They cannot get their fucking priorities straight.
Jacob Young
read the OP, and get a 2400g instead
Mason Wood
But the Gs don't work with B350 or A230 MOBOs.
Joshua Young
*A320.
Aiden Miller
yes they do you just need a bios update
Camden Wilson
are you running single channel? that can affect wow quite a bit if your ram is not a dual channel config
