>Software minimalist standards - Using a TUI when necessary - Only using a window manager - Using the terminal as a file manager - Package count must be under 900 (unless you use production software such as gimp or kdenlive etc etc, it's okay)
Acceptable GNU/Linux distributions that aren't bloat
i mean those are some shitty opinions >not including arch >not including ncmpcpp/mpd >not including emacs (>inb4 vim vs emacs) >not including zsh >not including chromium (>inb4 botnet)
Alexander Butler
The other OP went retard by inviting shitposters in, tuck that, this one has the better title
Brandon Miller
oh no! not the shitposters! Clearly we need to have something to stop them! Maybe a document outlining how people should think and behave. Maybe something like a Code of Conduct? Yeah that sounds great.
Joshua Fisher
Is it the official Arch hating thread?
Cooper Nelson
Unironically, it's the most minimalist browser that supports HTML5, JS and images and that segfaults less than once a week.
Camden Phillips
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Cooper Barnes
>Is it the official Arch hating thread? >Arch Linux archlinux.org
can you read?
Gavin Stewart
Adding unix to the title is bloat, your comment is bloat
Luis Murphy
Was looking at the pic where Debian was more minimal than Arch (what a joke!).
Easton Campbell
I think chromium is better than firefox.
Oliver Jackson
we /gnu/
bsd fags out unix fags out noobs who aren't willing to learn out
i know gnu/linux isn't autistic minimal, but it is /minimal/.
Dominic Hill
it's an old pic from last year.
Leo Hall
>and other including Crux
Shit thread
Mason Harris
>.nu
William Harris
I dig this
Ayden Gonzalez
>xfce >firefox >minimal
Austin Nguyen
it is, arch is more about simplicity than minimalism. Core example is comparing the netinst iso with the arch installer iso. One is smaller and offers a set of tools specialized for the installation process, while offering the user to go through the process in both gui, tui and cli mode. The other almost twice as big, and consists of a cli "installer" (a glorified self extracting archive of a ready base system they call pacstrap) paired with bloated combination of a multiple variety of tools for each step of the installation process, available for one or two system architectures. You can see that debian went for the minimalism way, packing as much features as it can while managing resources and disk space, while arch went for simplicity, putting some simple programs required for the install together with a live linux root, which will require minimal effort from the developers.
Brody Barnes
its not minimal but the alternatives are only useful if you browse only very simple html sites.
People can have different opinions. They might think small DEs are not bloat and tiling window managers a retarded.
Landon Jackson
A desktop environment typically consists of icons, windows, toolbars, folders, wallpapers and desktop widgets (see Elements of graphical user interfaces and WIMP).[3] A GUI might also provide drag and drop functionality and other features that make the desktop metaphor more complete. A desktop environment aims to be an intuitive way for the user to interact with the computer using concepts which are similar to those used when interacting with the physical world, such as buttons and windows.
>A desktop environment typically consists of icons, windows, toolbars, folders, wallpapers and desktop widgets (see Elements of graphical user interfaces and WIMP).
DE is bloat. Bare window manager is all you need.
Lincoln Ortiz
What I was trying to say is that there is no definite cut line for what is and what is not bloat. While KDE and GNOME can be said to be always bloat, since they are the biggest DEs, Xfce LXDE are more kin personal taste.
Tyler Collins
Is meh better than feh? I heard it has gif support. Is there anything like those two that also supports webm? The only images I regularly view are all the porn I have saved and I have webms lumped in there too.
Brayden Wright
It's kinda meh.
Christopher Nguyen
i'm trying to debloat with debian netinst and i3 gaps but its giving me issues.
anyone here have any ideas?
Gabriel Jackson
You don't have write permissions on the directory. Use installed stuff should go under /usr/local/
Tyler Gomez
User installed*
Aaron Parker
not him but pale meme just werks.
Ryan Wright
oops. thanks
Julian Bell
why is void hipster? the only thing i could think of is it's package management but that's about it. it's minimal and rolling release distro and there's nothing wrong with that.
Evan Stewart
Reminder, if you can't mirror your setup on a ARM-powered SBC then you're not really minimal.
Evan Reyes
>arch Is and never was minimal. Why don't people get this.
Anthony Diaz
>gaps >debloat Pick one
Jack Miller
but its so pretty user
Easton Butler
LaTeX is bloat; only Groff is minimal.
Asher Hill
You installed under /usr/local, right?
Hunter Wright
nah get dwm
Connor Diaz
This, is a great exercise too What about texinfo?
Charles Hill
Neither is Gentoo or Debian netinst. Void is only minimal because the repo is smaller than my penis.
Luis Collins
>Void is only minimal because the repo is smaller than my penis.
Leo Morris
>texinfo Might as well use AsciiDoc or Pandoc Markdown, which are better.
Julian Wilson
What is this love for gaps? Is literally wasted space
Austin Richardson
For some it allows them to easily distinguish where one window ends another begins.
I prefer without gaps because I don't have that trouble.
Ayden Ross
I love pandoc but holy shit that thing is heavy
Asher Ramirez
>never use most before >use linux for years >install most, uninstall less >casual manpage >instant culture shock
Jack Hall
I use a tiling wm to keep my screen uncluttered, I barely use more than one window when I have shit to do, keybinds are godsend in tiling wm anyway. Maybe gaps are aesthetic but I am unsure of their productivity.
Cameron Bennett
Can you link your rice config?
Brandon Peterson
Some things I'd add/remove from that list: >replace void with slackware >remove xfce, add kde1 (it can be installed on a modern system, but takes a bit of compiling, has a very small memory footprint and is very usable) >add mplayer to music player >add nvi to text editors
Also >firefox How the fuck is firefox not bloated? Lmao
David Campbell
It's not that heavy in relation to what it can do.
Brayden Perry
Which is the better macro set? -ms, -mm, or -mom?
You should say mirror it COMFORTABLY since even Xubuntu will WORK on a Pi, but it will be utter trash.
Jordan Walker
yes not my image
Oliver Barnes
what editor is the eta next to vim
Jaxson Price
its much better on high res monitors i find. i run gaps on my 4K desktop. and no gaps on my laptop
David Powell
GNU nano
Jace Thomas
Laptops are usually best done with one window dominating the screen. It might just be personal taste, but whenever I tried to use multiple windows (unless it's something like `mc` or some other temporary utility like that) it just seemed like they were fighting over real estate.
As far as I can tell, xterm is near identical, except xterm can go seamless fullscreen with Alt+Enter even when you don't have xfce. Also xterm comes on almost all distros, without me having to go install sudo dnf install rxvt-unicode-256color and then start aliasing urxvt256c to urxvt and making shortcuts. The font spacing also doesn't need fixing.
Oh and my xterm is truecolour 24bit while my urxvt256c isn't, though I've not exactly looked into it and :set termguicolors seemed to do nothing in my vim for gruvbox etc.
Nicholas Fisher
Same here, this is what I love from ratpoison, full screen by default unless you explicitly change the frame
John Brown
Start writing text files.
Benjamin Cruz
>Spend 1000 burger units on hardware >make sure not to utilize it by "debloating" all the fun stuff >crye
Isaac Long
more lightweight, can run on a deamon. Just as customizable if not more than xterm.
Dominic Baker
>doesnt utilize hardware in things not needed to be utilized for >utilizes hardware when doing something you should expect to be hardware-intensive >it just works >crye of joy
Jonathan Robinson
When would the moment come where you decide you're going to tap into your hardware's power? Wobbly windows?
Sebastian Evans
Serves you right for not just buying the hardware you need.
Sebastian Kelly
Only messing around. Gonna install some distro soon. Tested a few out a couple of days ago. Gonna look at a few more later. Feel less sleazy using Linux, I'll give it that.
Is groff considered for text files? Will Jason Scott approve?
Chase Walker
I'm installing gentoo on my desktop, and I intend to use VMs with it. >How should I lay out my partitions? My only drive is a 1tb nvme and i have 32gb of ram. Can I encrypt everything while using uefi/kernel command line to boot i.e. not grub? Can btrfs or zfs negate the need for lvm? help
Eli Hughes
>Acceptable GNU/Linux distributions that aren't bloat >Alpine Linux (Not GNU) this should be removed from the list, it's a server distro and sucks ass at being an even acceptable desktop distro
Ryder Torres
>they consider this the """perfect""" web browser lmao
Aaron Perez
But that is a work in progress user, and not sure if that particular pic is from a recent branch.
Jackson Jenkins
name one (O N E) [ 1 ] { 1 . 0 0 } "Sup Forums project" that ever surpassed the "duhrr its a work in progress" phase.
