Opensuse tumbleweed kde?

[Jonathan Nguyen]

Bros, what are your thoughts on this distro? How stable is it for day to day use? How good is security? Is it good as a server distro as well?

[Gavin Carter]

Debian is better than Opensuse in everything, so don't bother with Opensuse if you are not an autistic person.

[Elijah White]

Does debian have a stable rolling release version?

[Christopher Hughes]

Sid.

[Sebastian Barnes]

Not as bad as I thought.
Package management is slower than Debian sid or arch.
Dependency resolution takes on more crap than usual.
Security is OK. Nice defaults.
Rolling release on servers is a no go.
Pretty much this without the hate.
Stable and rolling are not friends. People will say otherwise but it's not the best idea.

[Kevin Bailey]

Anyone use sid for day to day usage? How stable is it?
Opensuse tumbleweed looks to be much better tested since they have that openqa testing servers.

[Asher Cox]

Too many stale packages for me, even on tumbleweed.

[Tyler Wright]

Any examples? A rolling release by definition has the latest versions.

[Jeremiah Cook]

>thoughts
The website is phenomenally gay and useless. Pretty much telegraphs what the community & distro are all about.

[Jace Smith]

YAST2 is one of the best administrative tools for Linux, and is sad it is the only district that uses it, just because freetards need validation by using the command line and pretending to be leet hackers.

[Logan Jackson]

Been 2 years or so since I tried it, but I seem to recall to install xpra I had to build both xpra and some of its deps from source, and this wasn't the first time I'd been in that situation.

[Cameron Jackson]

>here is this car, it has a carburetor
>if the mixture is too rich, turn this screw this way
>if it's too lean turn it the other way
>you can replace the jets too to tweak the combustion
>did I mention you can even change the timing?
>honestly you can change everything using simple tools without lock-in and without bloat, isn't this nice?

>HERE COME THE GERMANS
>hurr durr durr traditional tools are so last century
>hurr durr durr here is a overcomplicated monstrosity to configure the car (yast)
>hurr durr durr you just answer some question and our system (yast) configures the car
>but your software doesn't cover all the conditions, that's impossible!
>but your software will inevitably get out of sync with the latest advance in engine design (new kernel, new libraries, new programs)
>hurr durr durr enjoy using the command line

Just say NO to germans

[Jonathan Martinez]

>Anyone use sid for day to day usage? How stable is it?
i do on a shitty old desktop and a thinkpad x220. works fine and is snappy, only issue is, that wifi does not always work on my thinkpad and i can't figure out what's wrong.

[Luke Cox]

An openSUSE thread! time to paste!

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>Why would I use openSUSE over the other distros?
-Graphical installer with many installation patterns for different Desktop Environments or minimal installations
-Built in snapshots(similar to Windows Restore Points) through Btrfs and Snapper: en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Snapper_Tutorial
Restore from grub: >64832871 >64832885
Restore through snapper: >64832824
-YaST configuration tools, just about everything can be configured through a GUI!
-Automated package testing through OpenQA: openqa.opensuse.org/
-KDE is stable, integration between KDe and Firefox
-Stable release with Leap, latest rolling with Tumbleweed
-Service status page: status.opensuse.org/
-Find and install openSUSE packages through software.opensuse.org
-If software.opensuse.org is down, try: opensuse.pkgs.org/
-openSUSE build service, build your own packages! openbuildservice.org/
-Mailing list, high recommended to follow if you use Tumbleweed: lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/

>updating in openSUSE Tumbleweed broke my system!
Be sure to use zypper dup --no-allow-vendor-change as recommended per: en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed

>The default fonts and codecs are lacking, can I have proper fonts, font rendering and codecs?
Yes, these are not included by default because of licensing issues: en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_application_blacklist
Try these:
Codecs and MS Fonts:
opensuse-guide.org/codecs.php
Official instructions here: en.opensuse.org/Additional_package_repositories#Packman
Bug reports regarding font rendering: bugzilla.opensuse.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=font rendering
Ubuntu font rendering:
build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:gldickens3

[Gabriel Peterson]

2/3
>openSUSE is horribly bloated by default!
Yes, the default installation patterns install quite a few packages, try the Server(Text Mode) or Custom option during installation to specify installation patterns:

>Why does openSUSE install all these dependencies I don't need?
The packagers determine dependencies, they've gone for features over slim.
You can turn that down.
After installation, open etc/zypp/zypp.conf and change:
solver.onlyRequires = true
solver.cleandepsOnRemove = true

>Can I use RX Vega with the opensource (AMDGPU) driver?
Yes but this does require using Tumbleweed and developer repositories to ensure the latest Mesa, Xorg, OpenGL and Wine version (and others), breaking some dependencies in the process.

sudo zypper ar download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/forkbomb:/turboAMD/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/ turboAMD
sudo zypper ref
sudo zypper dup --from turboAMD
Switch to turboAMD packages and keep kwin packages (break dependencies)

>Firefox is slow!
OpenSUSE will install Firefox ESR(Extended Support Release) by default because of its stability.
You can install the latest (and faster) Firefox from software.opensuse.org/package/MozillaFirefox
Click "other versions" to find the package for Tumbleweed.

>Can I replace systemd with something else?
Technically yes but this this is not supported in openSUSE.
Try one of these distributions: without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#open-source_operating_systems_without_systemd_in_the_default_installation

>I found a bug!
Please report it! en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Submitting_bug_reports

[Parker Gray]

3/3
> Boot is slow compared to other distros
Yes it is, you can speed it up by:
-switching the network manager from wicked to NetworkManager in Network Settings and disabling ipv6
-disabling the postfix service in Service Manager
To continue tweaking try sudo systemd-analyze and sudo systemd-analyze blame.

>I'm running out of disk space help!
Make sure to configure the amount of Btrfs snapshots by:
sudo snapper set-config NUMBER_LIMIT=2-10 NUMBER_LIMIT_IMPORTANT=4-10
Check disk usage with ncdu or k4dirstat
You can clean up snapshots with sudo snapper list and sudo snapper delete or even sudo snapper delete -

>VLC is broken in Tumbleweed!
Videolan has a new repository: videolan.org/vlc/download-suse.html

[Ian Collins]

installation patterns screenshots 1/2

[Noah Morales]

install gentoo

[Owen Diaz]

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[Aaron Allen]

How install minimal xfce on opensuse ? Procedure?

[Josiah Thomas]

Select Custom in this screenSelect XFCE

[Christian Evans]

>Package management is slower than Debian sid or arch.

How is it compared to dnf?

[Brayden Stewart]

As still a lot of packages are installed by default patterns, you can go to Details and untick these.
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[Levi Reed]

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[Justin Cruz]

opensuse rulz

[Liam Clark]

If you are setting up a server then use OpenBSD

[Charles Sanders]

YaST is bloated and has horrible UI.

[Anthony James]

>Is it good as a server distro as well?
The only good server distro is spline or openbsd with xen hypervisor

[Christian Foster]

tumbleweed is not "stable"
sure it might not fully break but you still should except things to change and you have to fix shit sometimes when something does change in a way that your old configuration and shit does not work anymore since it is rolling release after all
literally 0 reasons to use over debian sid, sid rarely breaks either if you know what you are doing and dont say "yes" to apt suggesting to remove half of your system to perform a upgrade

[Lucas Lopez]

>KDE
GNOME is way better