Take a look at 80s rock bands: music was all about fucking, partying and enjoying life.
Then grunge took over, and rock started to be about depression and angst. Same applies to its heris, like post-grunge, nu metal and crossover. Only pop punk was about fun and girls.
Even 90s and 2000s rock was quite "dark" themed, it still rocked and kicked ass, with fast beats and hard guitars.
Now rock is all boring and great only to do yoga to. Concerts of recent bands are a pain the ass, full of people standing and staring each other.
Woah thank you for making me discover this band. Cool and funny too
Lucas Gomez
Music industry panicking when it became christianised and anti Jewish socialist agenda. Grunge did that. Nu-metal too. They tricked the industry and now it's paying big time.
Even hip-hop is doing the same now. They're getting rid of that too.
Nothing left but radical feminist whores and the occasional "feminist" doing the same grunge thing and tricking the industry.
It's probably better today at local gigs because the alternative scene is alternative again.
Big things about to happen I suspect. Lot's more bands again.
Cooper Walker
So you think feminism is changing hip-hop too? It's definitely the most mysoginist genre ever
Julian Thompson
Because '80s had Reagan.
Currently Obama's government is trying to impose their agenda in everything. Their #1 goal is pushing white male guilt.
For pushing male guilt and female supremacy to the mainstream, they have feminism. Performers which have successfully incorporated it in their music include Meghan Trainor, Miley Cyrus, Beyonce, also that really fat singer but I forgot her name.
As for white guilt and the idea of black supremacy, see racist rap, again Beyonce, Kendrick, and general predominance of blacks in entertainment in general.
Nu-male music simply agrees and approves these ideas. It imposes the role models on young people to accept their guilt and inferiority for being born white, straight and male.
Rap is the black equivalent of hair metal. It's raunchy, offensive, it's about sex, drugs and male sexuality.
Female pop is the female equivalent of hair metal. It's pushing the female supremacy and sexuality.
Logan Myers
It was because of MTV. Everyone had to have a music video and bands became more about their image than their music. Hence all the glam shite
Logan Harris
As young people we should really all feel guilty for being born. Read some Ligotti bitch.
Jeremiah Ortiz
>So you think feminism is changing hip-hop too? It's definitely the most mysoginist genre ever Put it this way. Most people over the age of 18 does not listen to that mainstream bullshit.
I personally hang out at gigs with mates.
Why? Because it eases us in this screwed world we're in.
Aaron Perez
Hip-hop doesn't "need" to change at all. It fits the neo-liberal narrative perfectly.
It is meant to show that when black people blame white people for crimes they didn't commit, engage in pure racism, misogyny, and hedonism, it is good and "current year"; but when white people do it, it's fascism, disgusting bigotry, problematic, and should be suppressed at all costs.
It is also meant to show that black people are "cool" and white people are "old and boring".
Michael Price
Motley Crue were a bunch of talentless pedophiles making music for the 80s equivalent of the "muh moosic scares people xD" crowd you want music that still rocks? ok here you go: youtube.com/watch?v=qLYoJgbybes
Colton Perry
>It is meant to show that when black people blame white people for crimes they didn't commit, engage in pure racism, misogyny, and hedonism, it is good and "current year"; but when white people do it, it's fascism, disgusting bigotry, problematic, and should be suppressed at all costs.
My theory has always been: if they keep pushing this, eventually a bunch of really bigoted Neo Nazi and Uncle Tom Rappers will start making head waves because the Established "Culture" will be rolling over outraged by it. Black adults will hate it, Nu-Fork will all review it poorly but all the kids will like it so it doesn't matter.
Logan Cooper
Shit taste detected. Motley Crue were the best glam metal band of the '80s. What you posted is not even plebian, it's middle school wigger-core.
David Richardson
>It is meant to show that when black people blame white people for crimes they didn't commit, engage in pure racism, misogyny, and hedonism, it is good and "current year"; but when white people do it, it's fascism, disgusting bigotry, problematic, and should be suppressed at all costs.
kek
All people are slaves. All.
Even the richest.
Bentley Nguyen
Sup Forums meets Sup Forums
Nolan Reed
Same person? No offense mate, but I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories. They all sound edgy to me.
Actually I plan to do a "moonman" band just to tell the world - Look let's sit down, figure this shit out, try new things to fix this cock-up.
People are giving up too easily. I want to trigger enlightenment. Even if I lose all friends and family. I will do it for people.
Nathaniel Perry
Pedophiles? I didn't know that fucking hot young sluts was pedo stuff. And they actually kicked ass dude
Gavin Lopez
Rawk of the kind in the 60s-70s-80s isn't possible anymore because Millenials aren't the same kind of people or have the same mentality as boomers and Gen Xers. Young people now just don't go out and ride on motorcycles and smoke, drink or fuck anymore. They live in their parents' basement at 30 and have sex with an Applejack dakimakura instead of a female.
Anthony Nelson
I did a kickflip over your post, now what
Jaxson Robinson
Only conspiracy is that we have to get the guillotines out for the rich.
It's time. They're pure evil and not listening. They don't care anymore.
We'll make them care even at the cost of our lives.
Do it for the young children today.
Nathaniel Garcia
The problem is that labels won't allow it. It won't earn money; moreover, it will result in SJW withchunt on the people who made it.
Easton Gonzalez
Hipster bands are really what reflects the Millenial mindset, which is wearing a fedora and a scarf and being a Tumblr nu male.
Noah Fisher
Holy god, he's not making this up.
Mason Cook
I'm a millennial and definitely feel I was born in the wrong time. I love smoking and drinking (as all people in Europe) but hate that fucking rap and EDM that everybody is so enthusiast of.
Aaaand actually you're right. It was all mostly shit. "Glam" monicker was mostly just for the image. What most bands like Poison did was just rehashes of NWBHM or even rock'n'roll with some tapping.
Motley Crue were different from the rest though.
Kayden Harris
with the internet we have a pretty safe way to test the water when it comes to finding out what makes money. if a bunch of really offensive shit began gong viral and all the "muh white peepl sux xDDD" cancer stopped going anywhere what choice would they have?
Juan Sullivan
When was the last time we had a pic related or a Chili Peppers? a band that didn't give a fuck about race and just made music for everyone to have fun? why does everything need a social message now?
Dylan Myers
But that music had a social message too
Jacob Green
>Take a look at 80s rock bands: music was all about fucking, partying and enjoying life.
Just listen to modern rap and it fits all that, unless you don't like the fact that they don't dress up like women
Sebastian Turner
30 posts and only 8 posters. This thread is literally being controlled by the same guy. Check the numbers in the bottom right
Jaxson Collins
barely and even if it did, you know what I'm talking about. Led Zeppelin for example, say what you want about their music but they just liked playing their instruments they didn't give a fuck who was "moved" or even who was offended by it.
Kevin Sanders
Check these numbers
Landon Wilson
Well it's not about the fashion, it's more about the music which was netter imho. I wrote that even the depressing grunge and nu metal had at least hard music
Tyler Hernandez
You're missing a few pieces of the puzzle, notably that bands like Poison came along after glam metal was already past its prime (1982-85). They were just a diluted parody of glam metal for little kids.
Jordan Reyes
>I want to trigger enlightenment. Um, sorry mate, but you're starting to sound like Reddit.
Look, I don't deny I read Sup Forums from time to time. You know why? I don't buy into their memes like "jews", "eradication of white race" and so on.
I'm simply sick of predominating social dogma that's being shoved down my throat by movies, websites and so on. I think it's not about equality anymore but about reverse oppression.
They are simply mainstream. People with no personality will eat it up. People who easily accept propaganda will eat it up.
The problem is, you'll have to stay anonymous to avoid witchhunts (meaning no live performances), and write actually good music to get popular.
If you will get controversial, you will actually receive PR from all the haters; but good luck making money with such records. Also, if your voice is recognized, you might have problems.
But if you do succeed, you will become the white N.W.A.
Colton Reyes
holy fucking cringe batman
Cooper Sanchez
50% of rap songs now: Muh White peepl is ruinin our erf I dindu nuffin other 50%: only exist because of constant pushing of brand names in every song so it's either Boyce Watkins style pandering or commercials now. I suppose there is also some stupid shit about relationships and feelings thrown in but who gives a fuck? still terrible
Lucas Stewart
Blame the pussy acoustic rock bands like Oasis that got popular in the 90s
Wyatt Kelly
You forget
ROLL DAT BLUNT HIT DAT AYSSS LAY DAT BEAT DROP THAT BAYS
Leo Butler
>only exist because of constant pushing of brand names in every song those songs are what I was referring to
Dylan Bell
Checked
Yep, but even at its prime it wasn't exactly soaring high. I love Def Leppard, Quiet Riot and Hanoi Rocks were ok, but Ratt not so much.
After that it was full of unashamed hacks with no talent whatsoever.
Isaiah Rivera
"Rock music is dead. Rappers are the new rock stars. They're edgy, they have attitude, they flash around big stacks of money, they ride in a limousine with girls hanging off their arms. I mean, we all love that, right? They make you want to be them. The point is that rock stars aren't supposed to be ordinary people. And then at some point, they became ordinary people. And the music got bland, it got boring, it sucked, and people stopped listening to it."
Tyler Moore
Shekels the Jew Clown needs to watch his obnoxious mouth
Adam Hernandez
Rappers are blacks hanging around with white girls. That's what most people find not acceptable.
Asher Baker
Rap is music by black people, for black people.
White music has always been more about melody than beat. It has much more changes, hooks and all that.
Rap is purely black music rooted in African rhythms. You have to be black to truly eschew all melody and like music concentrated ONLY on looping beat.
Not to mention I don't understand half the lyrics in most rap (I'm not talking your Drake or Aesop Rock stuff—I'm talking average stuff black people listen to). What I do hear sounds like Spinal Tap to me.
Juan Bell
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Connor Garcia
After grunge happened, the Kiss/Motley Crue/GNR brand of misogynistic cockrock completely fell out of fashion - only rappers could still get away with objectifying women.
Owen Sanchez
>White music has always been more about melody than beat. It has much more changes, hooks and all that. That's simply because of the European symphonic tradition which always emphasized melody and which carried over into popular music.
Luke James
I think it also goes hand in hand with fact that Reagan era ended. During Clinton's presidency it was so-so, and rock still rocked.
Landon Campbell
Yes, that's true. And that's also about black rhythm tradition.
Polyrhythms didn't really stick in pop music. And vice versa, black music often relies on beat. THis doesn't mean there can be exceptions from both sides; but they don't change the general picture.
Carter Kelly
"Where are the legendary musicians of today? Going down the list, I can name Elvis, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Michael Jackson. But after about 1984, who is there? And you can't say Nirvana because making two albums and then killing yourself doesn't make you a legendary artist."
Gabriel Russell
>Clinton era >rock still rocked Dude...you put on MTV in 1994 and all you see is Smashing Pumpkins, Bush, Stone Temple Pilots, Green Day, Hole, and Korn whining how bad they smell and how much their mom sucks.
Christian Jones
Cockrock basically started with Led Zeppelin and Exile-era Stones though, not in the Reagan years.
Benjamin Hernandez
>Now rock is all boring and great only to do yoga to >like the 80s didn't have that
That's the thing that bugs me. In the 80s, most anti-Reagan whining was confined to punk/alternative bands. The big stadium rock acts of that time seemed pretty apolitical for the most part. The 2000s however had everyone however mainstream or not whining about George Bush.
Julian Torres
BASED
James Bennett
Just curious, but why does he make 1984 his arbitrary cutoff point?
Tyler Lewis
Oh, I dunno. Possibly because Bu$h Nazi verifiably stole two elections and slaughtered 600,000 Iraqi civilians so Haliburton execs could afford a new Ferrari.
Julian Richardson
Stop listening to p4k core and listen to extreme metal
Anthony Flores
>music designed for white trash 11 year olds in the 80s >good LOLno.
Michael Murphy
I mean, at least they had distortion.
Aiden White
Of course it is dead. Black people appropriated "sex, drugs and rock'n'roll" dogma.
The gradual liberalization of music occured in stages. First labels pretty much ended heavy metal and started the grunge "wave". It gave us some good artists, but ultimately they made the rock whiney and edgy.
Then came next stage: indie. It started introducing nu-males, manlets in skinny jeans as "rockers". All while rap received more and more money from labels.
Finally came Obama era. Black became the new cool; "wigger" became an offensive, problematic word. Guitars have been pushed out of mainstream; terms like "dadrock", "rockists", "mixtape" appeared. The flow of money to rock was obstructed, and the recording industry went down with the rise of internet, hence the lack of new rock.
Final stage: Obama's second term. Feminism, LGBT, fat acceptance and white guilt in music; "Indie too white" meme. Increasing SJW bias in media, including p4k. White music is made irrelevant unless it isn't from women/LGBT/effeminate men with no balls. Total cleanising of music from any sign of white masculinity.
Jonathan Hughes
>being a close minded retard lol
Lincoln Russell
>Black people appropriated "sex, drugs and rock'n'roll" dogma
They invented it in the first place, they were just taking back what was theirs.
David Williams
I think rock was on its last legs during Bush's second term and that was happening before Obama. For all intents and purposes, American Idiot was the end of mainstream rock.
Juan Gomez
Motley Crue were rock and roll as fuck though. They weren't bad.
Nikki Sixx even died on the hospital table a few times after overdosing.
Andrew Reed
You can see elements of it in blues and rock'n'roll, yes, but not
> They're edgy, they have attitude, they flash around big stacks of money, they ride in a limousine with girls hanging off their arms.
Remember how BB King destroyed hotel rooms with groupies and nearly overdosed on heroin? Me neither.
Today rap took it all way too far. Rappers are almost like pimps, they boast their crime and don't hide drug usage. Motley Crue and GNR were more restrained than that.
Charles Carter
FWIW, Lemmy preferred Motley Crue to Metallica.
Brandon Wright
No one outside of your internet world feels guilty for being white.
Henry Jackson
>Then came next stage: indie. It started introducing nu-males, manlets in skinny jeans as "rockers". Nope, that was the 70s and 80s. Have you seen post-punk bands from the 80s? They're all 5'6 manlets with plastic rimmed glasses in skinny pants that cling to their 120 lb frame
Brayden Harris
Yep, that's true. But it raises the question if Bush was a true republican candidate, if he has managed to become the most unpopular president in history.
It was his presidency that opened the doors to post 9/11 liberalism and subsequent rise of PC and SJWs.
John Morris
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Samuel Richardson
I do the same. Motley Crue wrote better songs.
Christian Howard
Sorry but you are retarded, hiphop is easily the most redpill genre of music
It's all about attaining social status, getting rich, fucking numerous women. Rapping is almost always about bragging about being more dominant than the competition. It's about men being strong and not being pussies.
If you don't think hiphop is the most redpilled music, then you're just racist
Jose Turner
When you say redpilled, are you implying that's a good or a bad thing? I mean obviously you'd be generalising if you were to say literally all hip hop is like that.
Christopher Rivera
>Remember how BB King destroyed hotel rooms with groupies and nearly overdosed on heroin? Me neither. A lot of those bluesmen lived pretty rugged, debauched lives desu. To quote Pinetop Perkins (who lived to 97), "Lots of blues musicians died young because dey got inta things dey shouldn'ta been doin."
Leo Rivera
I know that perfectly well. It is a dogma that's being pushed by media. No one thinks, for example, Caitlyn Jenner is "sexy" or beautiful. But one risks getting fired from his job if he says otherwise. A slightest jab at blacks can destroy one's career and earn them reputation as "bigots", aka persona non grata.
Gabriel Miller
>if he has managed to become the most unpopular president in history Until the guy who came after him anyway.
Chase Johnson
>I don't buy into their memes like "jews" if there's one and only one thing that anyone should take from Sup Forums to heart, its the jews. not degenerate, white genocide, cuck and certainly not assjaydubya. at least that's what i think..
Bentley Edwards
It is getting pretty out of hand. I think Jenner is fucking disgusting and basically a murderer. How he got away with hitting someone with a car and killing them is beyond me. Complete fucking sell out hack that even the LGBT community doesn't respect.
Oliver Ramirez
>It is also meant to show that black people are "cool" and white people are "old and boring". White people can't be cool by definition, 'specially old white people. It's just not possible for them.
Aaron Anderson
Obama is far more popular than Bush was at the end of his presidency you suburban bubble child you
Isaac Bennett
The only Motley Crue you need is the first two albums and Decade of Decadence. Rest is just 12 year old girl poodle rock.
Jackson Smith
Obama is a puppet. All I ever really see him do is make appearances on late night tv shows trying to appear as if he's just "one of us".
Caleb Brown
Huffington Post polls are not a credible source of information.
>each successive Congressional election since Obama has been president cost the Democrats more and more seats
Jace Powell
Yep, you're right here. As I said, bluesmen predated in a way their ways of life. I'm not sure they "invented" it though—I can see white country musicians doing just the same.
See, that's why I never will agree with "red pill" individuals.
If you mean "promoting male surpemacy", then you're right. But I never liked that in music. I can't listen hyper-raunchy rap about "hoes", "pussy", "bitches" and so on. It all sounds like Spinal Tap's Sex Farm to me. It doesn't matter who sings it—white guys or black guys.
Also, you're not mentioning that most rappers despise white people. They feel pure, unrefined racial hatred to anyone white. If redpill means pure unadulterated racism, I don't want it.
Luis Powell
As he called working-class Americans "bitter people clinging to their guns and religion".
>smoking if it's not too late, quit. it's absolutely awful
Gabriel Johnson
I mean he's not wrong.
Landon Martin
This. I just went to a funeral of a woman who had two strokes, undiagnosed stage iv lung cancer and went into a coma. They pulled the plug because she was a goner.
James Martin
Blues clubs were pretty seedy places; Albert King was known even in his later years to carry a pistol around with him, a rudiment of his early days gigging in clubs.
I read a concert story about BB King from a few years before he died when people were complaining that he was spending the whole show chatting about nothing instead of playing, and he apparently told one of the hecklers in the audience "It may not look it, but I have a knife under this tuxedo."
Kind of hard to imagine BB King saying that when most people alive in the 2000s only knew him as a benevolent grandfatherly figure, but once upon a time, he was a young man playing in clubs where you had to be on guard for your safety.
Nicholas Jenkins
Pic related. This is you.
Julian Adams
You need to get off the internet kid and go live in the real world where people actually exist. Nu males aren't a thing.
Angel Lewis
Add this and the pretty good Saints of Los Angeles
Jack Reyes
>Then came next stage: indie. It started introducing nu-males, manlets in skinny jeans as "rockers". All while rap received more and more money from labels. The other problem was that metal after 1992 forgot how to write songs instead of gnash fragments, so that was the end of metal as a mainstream, commercial genre.
Jeremiah Sullivan
Their downfall started with Theater of Pain. Admittedly the B-sides are still balls-out rockers, but the singles show a disturbing shift towards a lightweight pop rock feel.
Aaron Thomas
Yeah, it's pretty obvious. Before the civil rights movement, violence towards blacks was much more likely.
But I wouldn't say it was the same as the lifestyle popularized The Rolling Stones'. The latter was about destructive hedonism. Bluesmen certainly wouldn't dream of that.