sane thread for people interested in the subject instead of feeding an Apple costumer's fetish for young boys:
Jacob Roberts
>costumer wew
Nathaniel Gutierrez
I've started using evilwm I like it a lot but I wish clicking on a window would bring it to the front Also uwu
Nolan Long
looks pretty comfy as a stacking WM option!
Caleb Green
y'know, Sup Forums, before I met you i didn't care about systemd, or window managers, or minimalism. i just wanted a system. Now I see beauty in computers. Thank you~
gonna move to arch soon. It's been a long time coming. Anything in particular I should make note of before the transition?
Jaxon Moore
Follow the installation guide carefully, and be sure to read the GRUB part first beforehand. If your system uses EFI, or you want to use GPT partitioning, then you're gonna have to partition your system in a specific way.
Jose Hill
oh and i'm glad you see the beauty of computers now!
James Perry
is this arch linux general now? Is the ILoveCandy option bloat? It's very cute.
Leo Sullivan
Arch is not minimal
Lucas Reyes
I'm looking for a new web browser. Obviously I want something minimal, preferably with vim-like keybindings. IT also needs to support user scripts and user styles, as well as adblocking. Ideally, I'd be able to run something like uMatrix in it.
Haven't found anything usable. The only things I've seen even remotely close to what I want are usually broken dead projects.
Why are web browsers so shit?
Levi Price
>raw install, without desktop environment or window manager. witohut any bloat. >not minimal please do tell me what os you use to have that kind of stance
Nicholas Jenkins
Every god damn time, my machine ends up bloated with random packages I needed for certain failed experiments, random fucking build deps, all kinds of other shit, and I wind up reinstalling to clean it up.
It's like winrot, but entirely my fault, and I hate it. There's got to be a better way.
Thomas Hall
>Why are web browsers so shit? Because the web standards are not minimal. Honestly the best sane solution to browsers, from my experience, is Pale Moon.
Dominic Campbell
Void has this neat feature in it's package manager Removing a single package and recursively all packages that were installed as dependencies
# xbps-remove -R pkg
Cleaning up the cache directory
# xbps-remove -O
Removing all package orphans
# xbps-remove -o
Note: here "orphan" means packages not installed manually and no packages depended. In Debian, "orphan packages" refer to packages abandoned by their package maintainer. Removing all package orphans and clean the cache directory
don't all half-decent package managers have this concept? I know apt tracks unused dependencies. This is basic functionality.
Matthew Thompson
Yeah Debian/Devuan does this.
Chase Robinson
d-does arch ?
Cooper Edwards
It's better than a browser imo but it definitely needs work still and I really wish it wasn't using Qt5 oh well
Noah Baker
dunno, I use a real OS.
Cameron Rodriguez
what cross-platform gui library do you recommend?
Andrew Turner
>Note: here "orphan" means packages not installed manually thats the problem isn't it: you install a few deps manually to try make a build go through and then at the end you don't uninstall the unnecessary ones or do much clean up at all. repeat a few times a year and your install gets bloated with a lot of manually installed dependencies which you don't remember the reason for.
Oliver Green
Yep, that's the thing, I wish there was a way to like, tag packages while installing them.
Like, let's say I'm compiling some program foo. When I install the deps, I pass a --tag 'foo-build' arg to the package manager.
Then later, I can list my tags, and I can do a remove foo-build or something. Essentially virtual packages, I guess, but local and easier to work with.
Brody Cook
Threadly reminder decimal kilobytes and bibibytes instead of proper binary kilobytes are bloat (1024 are good, 1000 are bad)
threadly reminder you cannot understand basic unit conventions and have more confusion and misinformation than a cs beginner at his first class, but still pretend to be a pro and act edgy. Also anime faggot. >1024 - kibibyte >1000 - kilobyte as kilo=1k, derived from latins, a patrician civilizations so ancient yet so ahead of barbarians/burgers like you. >bibibyte - exists in your head, 1 byte = 8 bit >any multiple of a kibibyte follow the same power of two scale >any multiple of a kilobyte follow the same power of ten scale All this rant coming from someone who uses different distance and weight conventions from the rest of the world sounds pretty pathetic and out of place anyway.
thats a nice idea, though subtle enough that I would definitely forget to use it a few times. perhaps a retroactive switch so i can tell the package manager "every package i installed in the last X minutes should be tagged `foo-build`"
Carson Martinez
I would fuck that boipucci does Len have programming socks?
Gavin Turner
>t. pretentious goonfaggot
Grayson Morris
Daily Reminder that Forth is the most minimal language.
Hii! I want to OwO him too! Hes a boi not a trap so he doesn't have programming socks From what I've heard from anons, Qt is at least somewhat less harmful than GTK (doesn't GTK use HTML and JS for some of its shit?) That said, most of the super-/minimal/ stuff like urxvt and st doesn't seem to use any GUI toolkit at all.
>Software minimalist standards - Using a TUI when necessary - Only using a window manager - Using the terminal as a file manager - Package count must be under 900 (unless you use production software such as gimp or kdenlive etc etc, it's okay)
Acceptable GNU/Linux distributions that aren't bloat
>arch is minimal, kinda Never said it isn't, but it's just a generally mediocre distro.
Cooper Taylor
>including alpine minimalism isnt about a lack of features
Lincoln Garcia
>first time back on Sup Forums in a while >see people talking about void linux >oh is this the new flavor of the week? >let's check it out I should have known.
another thread another degenerate image removed. Yet people still follow this perverted piece of shit and mods still cannot ban him and all the Apple Cafè he uses to post these abominations. You're all into little boys, minimalism is an excuse, in fact the vast majority of the posters has no clue how to use a linux system or the terminal.
>inb4 meanie >inb4 no bully
Animals like you should be locked out of society for good.
consider he is a Apple fanboy who installed void in a vm just to have an excuse to hijack minimalism threads, originally created by this guy , just cause they have much visibility across the board and are the perfect excuse to post those digusting pictures. And you all are replying to his threads instead of just saging, reporting and ignoring his ass.
>mods still cannot ban her Was getting banned part of her plan?
Parker Hall
What's a good alternative to pulseaudio? It fucking wrecks my battery life even though I have everything on mute. Also how do I make powertop tunable settings persistent? Every time I reboot I have to reset them again
Well right, normally there are multiple developers on projects, but they usually contribute to a single repo, otherwise you've just got 6 crap versions of the same product
Ryan Allen
how big of a meme is exherbo? how does it compare to other source based distros?
Ian Clark
Why aren't you using GuixSD yet?
Jeremiah Peterson
Does it have USE flags yet?
Jonathan Jenkins
I did for years, the ended up running some other lunix distro and had to deal with ALSA crap for a couple years.
I'm in the middle of setting up a real system right now, which includes installing OSS.
It's amazing how lunix fags threw out OSS and migrated to ALSA, then refused to use OSS once licensing crap was fixed.
Kayden Howard
Change is not free. I wonder which is the best system and if migration to OSS is painless in the case OSS is still worth it.
Benjamin Wilson
OSS, but a lot of crap has been explicitly removing compatibility in the last couple of years. Some things break with ALSA even, requiring pulseaudio.