Does VPN even work? Redpill me please. >Can log entire history of your browser. >Can inject anything into unencrypted traffic. >Can lie about whether it logs traffic or not. >Immediately knows if you are using TOR or other darknet protocol, can be used to deanonymize with additional big data. Even more if you host onions. Why would it be better than HTTPS in any way? Any VPN can be NSA honeypot, doesn't matter if it's hosted in the USA or in Wakanda.
Your ISP logs everything too and you don't have to pay additionally for this.
No amount of VPN/HTTPS/Tor/Darknet is enough to keep you safe from the people who care to prevent nasty shit like child porn, terrorism, trafficking, deepstate meddling, malware propagation or other global cyber threats from collecting and parsing network traffic telemetry including netflow data and pcaps in order to prevent said bad shit.
Nobody is safe. Unplug and airgap if you want privacy. Read your ISP ToS.
source: I work for the people who aim to assist LE & Govt in efforts to prevent the aforementioned bad shit by collecting data from global sources.
>Does VPN even work? Redpill me please. yes but with iknowwhatyoudownload.com you can see 99% of vpns are used for child porn torrent so it's monitored by CIA and some vpns are run by cia or interpol. Do you really think that they keep no logs? It's good to encrypt your browsing but your ISP can probably track you. If you want to stay anonymous don't use the internet or simply install a txt based browser to read tech news and linux/bsd newsfeed Some brazilians and canadians use tor to get drugs and they are careless and some of them were arrested by posting links on reddit about their degenerate purchases
Evan Wood
the only point of a vpn is to hide your torrents from jewish lawyers working on behalf of other jews in the riaa or mpaa
Jason Martinez
It is. Just avoid botnet countries.
Andrew White
basically this. Socks5 for torrents + OpenVPN 256bit is not a bad tool against torrent tracking but at the same time the vpns still keep logs and torrent trackers aren't safe
Luke Rivera
Pretty much
Landon Brooks
How about you learn how your tools work and what they do first before you post "does X even work?"
Jace Harris
I only use VPN for Kancolle and torrents
Asher Bailey
You should try reading about internet technology before you post inane shit
Aiden Johnson
>the people who care to prevent nasty shit like child porn, terrorism, trafficking, deepstate meddling, malware propagation or other global cyber threats >falling for the Four Horsemen of the Infocalypse propaganda Worked in the 90s, works today, I guess.
From en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Infocalypse > Cypherpunk FAQ,[2] which states: >8.3.4. "How will privacy and anonymity be attacked?" >[...] >like so many other "computer hacker" items, as a tool for the "Four Horsemen": drug-dealers, money-launderers, terrorists, and pedophiles. >17.5.7. "What limits on the Net are being proposed?" >[...] >Newspapers are complaining about the Four Horsemen of the Infocalypse: >terrorists, pedophiles, drug dealers, and money launderers
>It is also used frequently to describe the political tactic "Think of the children".
>How to get what you want in 4 easy stages: >1. Have a target "thing" you wish to stop, yet lack any moral, or practical reasons for doing so? >2. Pick a fear common to lots of people, something that will evoke a gut reaction: terrorists, pedophiles, serial killers. >3. Scream loudly to the media that "thing" is being used by perpetrators. (Don't worry if this is true, or common to all other things, or less common with "thing" than with other long established systems—payphones, paper mail, private hotel rooms, lack of bugs in all houses etc.) >4. Say that the only way to stop perpetrators is to close down "thing", or to regulate it to death, or to have laws forcing en-mass tapability of all private communications on "thing". Don't worry if communicating on "thing" is a constitutionally protected right, if you have done a good job in choosing and publicising the horsemen in 2, no one will notice, they will be too busy clamouring for you to save them from the supposed evils.
Cooper Ramirez
>Worked in the 90s, works today, I guess. never worked darkweb is manly used for organ trafficking and most agencies stay silent on this because it's run by jews and muslims in 2004 I developed a script injection to hack some very powerful russian servers I could ddoss any website in the world but I never used for my personal interest or to blackmail anybody. I realized the internet was made to be broken and shit. You don't even need https or encryption. The only thing you need is a stable protocol that is build with no tracking backend and tools. We need to replace DNS. Not to make people 100% anonymous but to stop giving money to marketing companies I'd start by developing a web browser similar to firefox from scratch with javascript emulation running in a sandbox with no access to your actual browser. The browser would output the sandbox and the processes inside the sandbox would have no permission to write to disk This is more important than building your own ISP or TLD the internet sucks so much today that you find people making 80k a year to be diversity consultants but no one is interested in fixing/creating browsers and javascript if I had a team of 3 devs and 300k I could develop a firefox/chrome killer in 6 months. Maybe that will happen in my lifetime. After that you only need to start an organization that develop your own www protocol and dns, making it work with the current one by emulating the behavior (so you can browse the regular web) without having any of the W3C features implemented in your software
Christian Phillips
What did I say wrong? Basically VPN is like browsing internet from the other computer except your traffic history doesn't belong to you. How is this safe.
Jeremiah Cook
Basically came here to have us explain what a VPN can and cannot do. Go read a fucking book on basic IP layers and routing.
Camden Collins
>darkweb is manly used for organ trafficking and most agencies stay silent on this because it's run by jews and muslims juicy >javascript emulation running in a sandbox with no access to your actual browser. The browser would output the sandbox and the processes inside the sandbox would have no permission to write to disk How do current implementations fail to do that already? >sucks so much today that you find people making 80k a year to be diversity consultants but no one is interested in fixing/creating browsers and javascript It's the case for every market. The things that get resources are those that can get a decent ROI, with a few exceptions here and there. >if I had a team of 3 devs and 300k I could develop a firefox/chrome killer in 6 months So, about this bridge I've got to sell you...
Oliver Flores
>implying global monitoring is used to bust child-raping uncles in their basements instead of to control freedom of speech and international conflicts
Nolan Carter
VPNs are useless for most people, just not sending sensitive data over the MCDonalds wifi is much easier than paying some questionable company to protect your shit. And for people like me who run a private tracker Last year I just banned them outright because 99% of traffic from them were coming from attacks or compromised accounts. I also had to ban access to the tracker from all of Africa, Russia and all the former Soviet states because the legit traffic from there was non-existent.
Adrian Mitchell
>How do current implementations fail to do that already? because they don't you brainlet. They are the opposite of what I described but I didn't say they monitor fat pedos, I said they run the pedo nodes to see what's the activity and select their targets when they need it. That's not where they waste their money on btw. Most pedos are in the high level of society and they get their stuff from there, but sometimes you have to arrest some people so CNN can make sure to the american people there are police officers and federal agents taking care of their safety
Jose Brooks
>They are the opposite of what I described So you mean the current JS sandbox in Chromium allows you - complete access to the browser - complete access to the filesystem Are you sure about that?
Benjamin Wright
>sometimes you have to arrest some people so CNN can make sure to the american people there are police officers and federal agents taking care of their safety Gotta maintain optics, strengthens the "Think of the children" strat.
Justin Taylor
>So you mean the current JS sandbox There is no current JS sandbox I'm talking about emulation from some exterior process in a place like firejail. A JS sandbox wouldn't leak your windows/linux time for instance. Why? because it wouldn't have access to your system
Grayson Long
>A JS sandbox wouldn't leak your windows/linux time for instance Depends on what interfaces you provide to the sandbox.
>There is no current JS sandbox >I'm talking about emulation from some exterior process in a place like firejail. blog.chromium.org/2008/10/new-approach-to-browser-security-google.html 10 years behind the curve, m80 Given that and your "3 month browser killer" bit, I'm guessing you're some skiddie with more confidence than knowledge.
Carter Martinez
Not that your "better sandbox" idea is bad, I think it'd be great to put in some additional restrictions. But still, some of your writings don't exactly inspire confidence, and this is coming from your average relatively clueless twat.
David Davis
JS emulation would only work if you make a browser from scratch. The virtual server running JS should be executed on system ram In theory you could make this emulator to work with hyperlinks on emacs forget about chromium or any other browser. You need virtual js + browser integration that way it could never leak your adblock filterlist for instance. Or even html5 canvas for that matter
Oliver King
>JS emulation would only work if you make a browser from scratch. Seek help >You need virtual js + browser integration that way it could never leak your adblock filterlist for instance >virtual js Just plug it into the government matrix dude, and we'll go hack the Gibson.
Landon Gutierrez
>virtual js A javascript emulator. You don't want your browser to have any js execution you want all your js to be executed with some default profile in a separate environment that way you can control the js profile instead of blocking js with addons. Doing so you would get rid of 90% of tracking too
Kevin Allen
>you want all your js to be executed with some default profile in a separate environment How are the current JS sandboxes not literally doing that? Cmon mate, you're pretending you can build a browser killer in 3 months, try to be a bit more specific with your lies.
Owen Smith
>can't, not how a VPN works, they can log the root domain on the other end and that's about it >then don't visit non SSL protected sites >it's easier for them to not log or log the minimum required by law, shit that's what we do, it's easier to say "we don't have anything on that user" than to waste time compiling reports, if we did we'd be doing it all the fucking time
Landon Bell
The wild west days are over, time to be a good citizen now.
Carter Williams
Anonymity is merely one reason to consider a VPN.
I run my own VPN server, not for anonymity, but to a) protect myself on public/untrusted WiFi b) improve speed (compression for everything including DNS) c) access my home server without exposing its ports to the public
In rare cases latency over VPN is better. ... got one server where my VPN yields 10% better latency than my native DSL connection. It's on another continent and my DSL ISP apparently has sub-par transatlantic peering, but my VPN server does not, so Ping(DSL ... Destination) > Ping(DSL ... VPN Server ... Destination)
Jack Hernandez
You aren't wrong. There are always agencies with different motive and goals. Sometimes those goals change. The bad actors that you are generalizing are largely outnumbered, unorganized, outgunned, and operating from countries with poor network infrastructure. But they do exist, as you implied.
