What's it like having a job in the tech industry?

what's it like having a job in the tech industry?

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kind of miserable desu, but the pay is good and I can browse Sup Forums at work in my downtime.

Miserable like having to go to work and do work is miserable, or in more ways?

fucking pointers!

On a good project you're making comfy code and get to show off your progress once a week.
On a bad project half the working time is meetings and the rest is herding Pajeets.

Have to work with Indians. The off-shore ones are the worst.

I'm lucky that I'm in a position where my managers are pretty chill, but some managers can be proper dickheads.

>Have to work with Indians. The off-shore ones are the worst.

This sounds like an opportunity. You can quickly become that one person who knows how all the things work and can fix the shitty offshore code and make it work properly. Managers start to notice you, and you can ask for raises and get them since they know they'll have big problems if they let you go.

Yeah it's great, and then after you get that promotion you wind up being in charge of them and your job is literally to fucking herd them and manage them.

As someone that's studying systems analysis and i've talked to alot of people in the industry (specifically in the area that i'm focusing on) around my city, they've all said the same thing. It CAN be exciting if you make it exciting. Alot of the posters here are merely codemonkeys, of course you're going to have a shit time just coding all day. Reviewing code and fixing it for a living is shit-tier. There's more to the industry to coding but this board doesn't seem to exactly reflect that.

What happens more often is that you're just replaced with more shitskins. Working in the tech industry has made me extremely racist against poos despite being normally liberal.

I'm in infrastructure and dealing with pooloos is even worse since they can actually fuck up machines,

Then you didn't make yourself very indispensable. If you did, they might fire you or lay you off, but then they'll call up in a week or two when shit starts hitting the fan, and will hire you back with the same responsibilities but higher pay if you're insistent.

Pajeets aren't as relevant down here in the southern hemisphere, thankfully. They generally choose to work in gas stations and supermarkets since they can get visas through there - most of them do a level 5 diploma and work in a help-desk because our payrates down here in New Zealand are good enough.

They did, I had already found a better job by then so I told them to eat the shit that pajeets were serving them.
That's another thing about working in the tech industry. You can get laid off very suddenly.and find a different job just about as quickly.

Wrong place to ask
No one on Sup Forums has a job

>work for ad firm
>leave because burnout
>work for ""weight loss" drug" company
>because desperate
>leave because learned to value time
>work for payday loans company
>because didn't learn lesson
>company implodes
>surprise
>work for company that assists law enforcement
>because benefit of doubt
>years later
>just another cog in absurd drug war
>company nonstop brags and exaggerates in chat
>still wringing my soul to this day

I'm doing good in the professional fulfillment department but I've been absolutely starving in the moral fulfillment department for a very long time. I've been like most people and working for survival. Don't be like me and work so hard for a living that you forget what to live for. You deserve better and the world deserves better. Making a living shouldn't mean having to be dishonest all the time.

This past week I've been spending most of my free time job hunting for a company that isn't soulless and seeking short term gains. There's so many job listings out there right now for generic and worthless companies. It seems a lot like browsing Sup Forums where you have to wade through a lot of shit to get to the gold nuggets.

I'm hoping to work with an organization that isn't solely fixated on profit. I don't even care if the pay or work conditions aren't ideal. I'd be willing to lose a lot of the things I currently enjoy. I just want my services to go to a worthwhile cause that, when I'm old and lose my abilities, I won't look back and be ashamed with my past self as I am now.

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Pretty sweet. Good pay, work is fun/interesting, nice office, great benefits, nice coworkers, good hardware for workstations, get to work on what I like, etc.

True. Tech has always had a huge demand and a great privilege of choice when it comes to employment opportunities that most other industries don't. Because of that privilege, I highly recommend employing some reservation and patience when you're off to get that new job or else you might end up miserable like me () and end up hating the new job the same. Just make it count.

Getting my first tech job is hell I'm just starting my own consulting firm.

I feel you user. I wish I could find a tech job that would actually make people's life less miserable.

I consider myself really good at what I do at the university I work on (infrastructure and a little bit of support), but this week I had some casual chat with a bunch of the higher ups and it got depressing really quickly.

They want things to work but they are not willing more IT staff to help out and there is a chance they will not buy the network appliances and computers I asked them to buy in order to replace failing and deprecated (9yo+) hardware.

When I get home I do some freelance coding and It's also depressing. The project I'm currently in as a subcontractor is a complete mess from the non-existent project design to the code itself. The guy who hired me doesn't care and just want it done while the client are paying thousands on maintenance every month. The client doesn't seem to give a damn about burning money either and neither do their in-house IT team.

It's just a massive chain of people who don't care.

On one hand, i've been able to do some rather fun things and travel quite a bit as a independent contractor doing various IT projects. Its a lot of fun and generally people treat you with respect if you work in the corporate side of things. You also have a lot of job options if you are in a big city and it helps to have a diverse skillset.

On the other, the amount stuff you need to be familiar and have a decent amount of knowledge of is staggering and daunting. Dealing with recruiters can be a nightmare and getting a job directly with a major company can be next to impossible when you are working with 3-4 different corporations and all of them don't hire unless there is a absolute need. Benefits are non-existent unless you want to pay out the ass for a shitty plan.

Getting to a point where getting call backs can literally take years of taking lesser jobs until you get a decent amount of experience or certs under your belt, and the market will almost always be flooded with people with way more experience or make getting certs a literal fucking hobby.

TLDR: Its fun but tiring as fuck, and I am sometimes jelous of someone that has one skillset and can retire on that without having to learn a billion different things.

How did you become a contractor?

>There's more to the industry to coding but this board doesn't seem to exactly reflect that.

No, it's about accurate. 99% of the work in the tech industry is mind-numbing garbage mixed with corporate bullshit.

>It's just a massive chain of people who don't care.

For real. It's almost bizarre that so many people can just operate on cruise-control every day not giving a shit about anything and only acting on behalf of preserving their ability to continue operating on cruise-control.

I guess finding a purpose in life is not a simple matter. In all honestly it took me years to even recognize the importance of defining my own purposes in life and thankfully I'm still in my 20s. It just dumbfounds me that people much older than I am are still fucking up so hard and taking everything for granted and making the same careless mistakes they made when they were my age.

Certs are overrated in my experience. Most of the ones that matter are the ones issued for AWS. Your ability to demonstrate your skill set will always be more valuable than some arbitrary token attesting your skills.

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Either you have a sociopath complex that makes you believe you're better than everyone else, or you hate it.

>I wish I could find a tech job that would actually make people's life less miserable.

Even at the very top tier firms, most people are writing infrastructure to track user behaviour and deliver advertising.

comfy
t. freelance programmer who just did his first pentest (hoping to change over to pentesting)

>sociopaths think they're better than everyone
this is true for neither psychopaths or sociopaths

But it doesn't have to be like this!

Where my virtuous companies at??

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90% boring
5% wanting to die forever
5% PANIC

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There are almost none. Private companies exist to make a profit and in the case of the tech industry, shaft their users in the process. Working for governments or their contractors is even worse unless you just want to get away with being completely incompetent.

Oh god this.

You're fucking naive. These Indians churn out code that's twice as shitty as a good developer's code twice as fast.

When it does work, the code is unreadable and unmaintainable and doesn't follow coding best practices. Managers love them because they're delivering results quickly without realizing the long term costs they are imposing on the entire team.

If it doesn't work, you get to fix it (good fucking luck) after their contract runs out, or they fix it themselves and all the manager sees is them resolving a bunch of bugs, so their numbers look great, even though they're just creating more work for themselves because they couldn't do it properly the first time around.

And don't even get me started on their English communication or their teamwork/leadership/management style. I fucking hate these god damn shitskins, I would exterminate their entire race if given the chance. Rather work with niggers and Jews than Indians.

How did you get hired for that first pentest?

Where do you work and how do you cope?

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pure luck in my HS there were two tech students (i.e students that knew about tech) me and another, the other guy set up his own tech business, we've never really liked each other because he went the make money route and I went the have fun route, but we obviously respected each other any way to end my faggy little story I asked him if I can pentest his business he said yes so I got it by pure favor

Years of experience. I've enjoyed testing pens since I was a kid.

Ah, I guess I could pentest my friend's company.

What kind of tech business did he start up? I'm looking to start something myself.

web design, what you looking to start up lad?

My title just went from "Help Desk IT" to "Service Delivery Agent" What gives? My job title already sounded like I'm a bottom of the barrel pleb.

Web design seems extremely oversaturated. AI seems to be hot, and I have some skills in it. I feel I could sell a service related to that to small businesses similar to how people sell webdev, but I can't think of exactly what it is yet.

I can't offer any advice but what my friend did was setup all his ideas at once under the same format of names, then whichever took off he used to drag the others up

What do you mean by the same format of names?

like xweb, xsocial, so the start of the name is the same - like amazon - amazon video - amazon music

bullshit ITIL terminology

>what's it like having a job in the tech industry?
This is exactly what it is like. Everyone thinks you can get the job done in 5 minutes. When you get the job done nobody thanks you. The worst thing is when you meet tech-illiterate people who are somehow intimidated by the fact you know a great deal about technology. They feel compelled to laugh at you when things go wrong and encourage others to make life difficult for you. If you are self employed and work for other companies, at invoice payment time you often hear "Can you reduce your prices, I could have got this cheaper elsewhere", to which your reply must always be, well why didnt you go elsewhere before you hired me? Is it because I am better than them and now you dont want to pay any respect at all to my skills? Other than that, it's ok, the job isnt work its a passion and so it dont feel like work, people are the work not the job. Like Jean Paul Sartre once said "Hell is other people".

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This is me getting a taxi to work

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I can't speak for programming, but you know that XKCD about forensic scientists on TV vs reality? Doing advanced troubleshooting for ISPs and working with WAN peers is like that. My job is to basically make sure the internet works - not 'The internet works for my company' or 'The internet works for our customers' but literally - make sure the internet works. There are a lot of things I know that are maybe interesting to certain people.

>There are a lot of things I know that are maybe interesting to certain people
keep going user, I'm here all night

that's a crock of shit!
making sure the internet works, my arse !
hahahahaha kiddo none of us here were born yesterday

Why is level 3 always down.

Most people want to know about government spying stuff. What can I say that isn't too much but is satisfying? There probably isn't a big pipe that funnels all your data into MI5 (Or the NSA as far as I know) but there is hardware that literally just port mirrors a certain amount of data from our switches to dedicated breakouts that go to said parties (Once again, NSA I'm not too sure about but from what I've heard it seems to be standard across the world). It is legal and above board. In general, ISPs and peers are not evil and 95% of the time they are not doing sneaky things behind your back.

This is quite corny but absolutely true - in a certain part of the UK there are men in black who covertly monitor undersea cables. I think I know what they do and if I'm right it seems redundant but I think they have to because of political reasons.

Okie doke - but I would consider the internet as a whole to be pretty broken if the entirety of Western Europe was to vanish from it (!)

Hahaha I'm glad someone said this. A 'Switching issue' normally, I can't remember the canned response they always used to give. I am 90% sure they can't figure out MTU and just wipe/reload the config on their switches every time it screws up and end up taking a few thousand connections down. They fucked something up recently because of a 'config issue', it's the first time I've seen them be that specific about it and so far it's just confirming my suspicions even further.

>In general, ISPs and peers are not evil and 95% of the time they are not doing sneaky things behind your back
You glow in the dark

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The pajeets I've worked with in NZ complain about the pajeets back home, one dude had a shouting match with some offshore shitter. I am convinced Indians hate Indians more than Sup Forums hates them.

>work at home while watching TV because you constantly feel like you didn't get enough done because you're expected to get an "exceeds expectations" rating for your impact
>>"we don't reward for potential impact"
>>"the work toward impact is what matters, not just launches"
>catfished into your project
>hundreds of people in the same building and you can feel every footfall of everyone that walks ungracefully or runs near your desk reverberate through the floor through your seat
>they're running away from the bathroom so they can wait for their code to compile sooner
>standing desk and you still feel it
>free beer
>manager who wrote most of the product and was at least 20y.o. when emacs came out, is confused why you don't take knowing what executes where and when for granted
>catfished into current product, but get to work on cool maths in "20%" time
>cope with whip-its and northern lights cannabis indica

shut up guilfoyle

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I've had an idea, make an anonymous image sharing site much like Sup Forums, but make sure you lure in a shitload of indians into it, maybe with the premise that they'll be able to shit talk each other without repercussion, but it all had to be in english. Screencap the hilarious threads they'd start and mock them over here, a zoo, as it were.
>thinking now, what if that is what this site is for?
My paranoia is kicking in t b h