Does anyone else already feel alienated from a lot of technology and trends taking place among younger people...

Does anyone else already feel alienated from a lot of technology and trends taking place among younger people? I'm only 22 years old, and I yet I feel like I'm from an entirely different world than kids barely 3-4 years younger than me.

What the fuck is music.ly and why do kids become famous off it? Why do people enjoy watching corny personalities play bad video games on Twitch? What about Instagram's design made it come out on top as the social media king for normies? Why do they now all constantly share and spread obviously stolen videos buried across non-indexed platforms like facebook and instagram?

And this isn't even getting into the general cultural and social divides, as I'm trying to keep it Sup Forums related. Am I the only one that feels this? I already felt alienated from people my own age growing up, and the sentiment has only deepened.

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I don't feel alienated because I don't care.

Because kids don't care about Facebook. Get with the times gramps.

Alienation does not necessarily imply "care". I feel utterly detached and disconnected from these people.

Is that a problem,user?

What is music.ly because i went to it and it's not a real site faggot. But musical.ly is

>le born in le wrong generation Morty!!!

Came here to post this.

Is that a problem? I don't feel very connected to the average Sup Forumsentooman either.

Yes. There are too many social media apps for me to keep up with. I still don't really get the point of snapchat, by the way.

I guess that proves my point, eh?

Not necessarily. Was simply positing the question to see if others shared my same sentiments.

>my baseline cultural reference to insult people with is Rick and Morty

Consider euthanasia.

>Was simply positing the question to see if others shared my same sentiments.
I feel connected to those I consider my friends and my peers. There are plenty in my generation that behave in ways I will never understand or relate to, but I've never considered this an feeling of increased alienation. This is pretty much how I've always felt since I was a child.

nothing you listed is a new trend you're not old enough to complain about young people

sounds like you're just a retard

Snapchat is live action intimacy and a good alternative to SMS. ITs simpler and more trendy to use amongst ages 8-20, anyone older uses Faceberg or whatever.

Yeah i didn't know what the fuck it is but looks like it's some sicko shit where leftists can expose their children to predators. goodhousekeeping.com/life/parenting/news/a45652/musicly-app-disturbing-messages/

Why the fuck would you let your kids use this shit. Even if predators don't harass them you're just starting them down a path of social media whoring which is also very damaging. Social media is a mistake and is not healthy for anyone.

It feels off, don't you think? Kids have shorter and shorter attention span, you can barely talk to them without hearing some fresh meme or le pop culture reference, that kind of thing only someone who has been watching youtube videos and livestreams or on reddit 24/7 gets. Might be a generation thing, but still sucks.

>leftists
Jesus.

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How old are you in particular?

I ask because I feel like at my age, I was one of the last groups to really grow up to at least early high school without the total influence of computers/smartphones/social media utterly dominating adolescence. Sure we had Myspace, but without a phone to constantly drill attention grabbing notifications into your brain, it couldn't nearly compare to the crystallized addiction that has become facebook and then instagram.

I guess I really would not know, as I've never been on any sort of social media. It just sort of drip feeds to me from people I know.

Regardless, I'm not complaining. I'm just trying to understand. I don't view my generation or cultural values as superior in any way. I view them to be just as obnoxious and degenerate, so try not get too upset, sweetie.

>It feels off, don't you think?
No.

“The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.”

>Kids have shorter and shorter attention span
I don't think so, but then again I don't spend time talking to kids.

Rhianna and kylie kardasian both recently told their followers to dump Snapchat. While it was likely motivated as an insider stock trading move to allow investors involved to short Snapchat stock, doesn't this also mean Snapchat is no longer cool for young thots who idolize these whores? I never understood Snapchat either but obviously someone is trying to destroy it via twitter celebs.

This. Leftists don't exist, and even if they do, there's no problem with an insane fringe ideology with 20 million genders that will attack you if you accidentally call xir a she. NO TRUMP! NO KKK! NO FASCIST USA!

>How old are you in particular?
I'm 31. Born in 1986.

>mfw it's commonplace today to stop a film or an episode of a series partway through to do other shit

*OR*, degenerate or harmful behavior isn't indicative or exclusive to left-leaning politics, and you've just spent too much time on the satirical politics board and enjoy derailing threads.
As someone who is surrounded by snapchat users, nobody gives a shit. Theres no alternative to it aside from Instagram which isn't as powerful in terms of publicity. It aint going anywhere.

No, I've just spent too much time on my university campus.

>le every generation is just the same bro

Nice fallacy, dipshit. Succeeding generations have definitely never had vastly contrasting, sometimes degraded values and ethics from their parent generation. That's totally why societies have always remained exactly the same with no social, cultural or economic change through the generations of cycling power.

>people these days are lazy and do nothing but
That's a good thing. People activating themselves and spending their time on something meaningful rather than being lazy fucks.

I understand your sentiment, but honestly I watch some twitch stream recaps from time to time, specifically Jaboody. I see people drop 100s of dollars within a few hrs, and all the guys do is play a few games or RP on a private GTA5 server. Seeing as how the fucking guy got an art degree instead of something viable, a couple grand a day doing stupid voices is pretty smart. If people are that dumb to waste money on that shit, then they deserved to be swindled. I recommend it for drop outs with no talent and autistic people.

Interesting. So you personally don't feel an extra layer to that disconnect has been added by people who have been raised entirely submersed in connected devices and internet?

Nice strawman argument, but that wasn't really my point at all. My point was in fact that the current generation has always felt disconnected from the next and always will, this is not something new.

>Spend most of your day on instagram/snapchat socialising
>Spend most of your day playing vidya (I have a younger sister, 15yo)
>something meaningful

Not disconnected, but then again I get annoyed and sometimes even angry when people I have a conversation with or doing some activity with starts looking on their phone or whatever instead of paying attention.

I feel people definitively are ruder in that aspect, but I don't feel particularly disconnected, no.

That divide was not nearly as wide in Socrates' time as it is today. Since the dawn of the 20th century, 20 year separations between groups can be like being raised in an entirely different world. That gap has only gotten smaller and smaller, hence what I think the OP is getting on about

Being social through communication on these apps is way more meaningful than bingewatching Netflix desu senpai.

>Complaining about people not being able to watch a film without being able to interrupt it and do something else equates me saying people should bingewatch

this. once you grow older OP, you just don't care about other people but yourself and your close ones.

Well, people are also living longer and having kids later. In the 1900s, it wasn't uncommon to have kids in your teens and early 20s. In the 2000s, most of my friends in their 30s are only now considering to start a family.

So obviously, this gap you're talking about is affected by more factors than just social media.

>watching a film is something everyone has time to do
I rarely have the time to watch an entire film because I have stuff that needs to be done, such as preparing dinner or washing clothes.

Well user, I'm sorry to hear that you're so bad at managing your own time you can't even spend two hours on something.
My condolences.
You should've also realised my point was merely an example and I was agreeing with the other user on the attention span thing.

>if you don't have time to waste, then you're obviously bad at managing your time
Or, you know, I'm not an entitled brat that has everything served on a golden platter, dipshit.

You are currently demonstrating what's wrong with the current generation, btw.

I hate the phone zombie shit too but it's already spread across generations. My boomer relatives are on their ipads and phones at inappropriate times as much as my younger relatives.

What do you call posting on Sup Forums then you retard? Not wasting time?
I work hard for the stuff I got and my opinions not being to your liking doesn't make me an entitled brat - going around called people entitled merely for the opinions they hold seems rather entitled.

i've always felt disconnected with the majority of my age
no superiority complex crap,just that i think my priorities and taste are different compared to them

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i hate seeing parents giving their phones and tablets to kids
give em a computer for fucks sake

>What the fuck is music.ly and why do kids become famous off it?
to answer in tyler durden's name: we've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars ....

humans are social animals, everything we do is to survive and increase the chances to have as much healthy offspring as possible. being famous or wanting to be famous is more or less a trigger that is programmed in your DNA. the internet is a platform where you can achieve fame, because social circles don't need that much maintenance as they used to, plus the likelihood to find someone who shares the same views on certain topics is relatively high, so finding new social circles and manifesting a togetherness based on terms defined within that group. you have basically 3 types of people: 1) the content produces, 2) the content consumer and 3) the sceptic. 1 and 2 attract one another (availability and demand), while 3 is rarely interacting with 1 and 2. obviously, people from category 1 and 2 will form social groups among another, supporting the construct that has manifested itself through supply and demand.

>Why do people enjoy watching corny personalities play bad video games on Twitch?
why do people enjoy watching paintings in a gallery? such a stupid and easy to answer question.

>What about Instagram's design made it come out on top as the social media king for normies?
looks clean, organized and sincere, who doesn't like to be viewed from that perspective?

>Why do they now all constantly share and spread obviously stolen videos buried across non-indexed platforms like facebook and instagram?
again, because we are social animals. sharing information among one another increases solidarity, affections and it plays into tit for tat. if i do something for you, you do something for me.

>What do you call posting on Sup Forums then you retard? Not wasting time?
I'm communicating with another person half-way around the globe and engaging in a discussion with him or her on this taiwanese
basketweaving forum.

If you can't marvel and see the beauty of modern technology, that allow you to communicate with total strangers and exchange opinions with eachother, why are you even on this board?

>I work hard for the stuff I got and my opinions not being to your liking doesn't make me an entitled brat - going around called people entitled merely for the opinions they hold seems rather entitled.
I don't particularly enjoy films, I don't even own a television and instead of literally sitting still for 2 hours and doing nothing, I would rather do something useful such as washing my clothes or preparing dinner for me and my kid. You jumped to the assumption that this obviously means that I am bad at managing my time, which means that you have little to no understanding of other people's lives which makes you an "entitled brat".

The fact that you had to earn money for your precious big flat screen TV you spend so many hours in front of is irrelevant in this regard.

>why do people enjoy watching paintings in a gallery? such a stupid and easy to answer question.
>watching manchildren/bimbos play video games is logically equivalent to attending a gallery full of hand crafted artistic works

I think this might take the cake for dumbest thing I've read all week.

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Same here, my parents are always on their phones even when watching their oldtime TV shows. But then again some of us aren't on facebook or stuff yet here we are posting on Sup Forums.

There's nothing at all sincere about instagram. It is the most phony platform I've ever seen.

>REEEE people aren't wasting their time in the right way to waste time

Why the fuck do you even how people waste time?

>You jumped to the assumption that this obviously means that I am bad at managing my time, which means that you have little to no understanding of other people's lives which makes you an "entitled brat".
You yourself said "you don't have any time to waste" which led me to believe you are bad at managing your time because you cannot afford to spare some

>The fact that you had to earn money for your precious big flat screen TV you spend so many hours in front of is irrelevant in this regard.
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but I don't own a TV, nor do I stream films online.

>I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but I don't own a TV, nor do I stream films online.
So you watch films while using your computer and then complain that other people are doing the same? kek

>Me not owning a TV means I'm unable to leave my own house and watch films at a friends

>having friends and a functioning social life yet feeling disconnected from the current generation
?

I'm not OP

> being famous or wanting to be famous is more or less a trigger that is programmed in your DNA
to backup that statement a bit more for the brainlets in Sup Forumsaytown. most species on this planet are tournament species, living beings that compete against another with the goal in distributing as much seed as possible to have as many copies of your own gene in the world as possible. what makes a famous person different from one that is not? being famous helps, since usually people who are famous have social circles that are very comfortable because of their riches and the reward in tit for tat is much greater than with poor people. that is attribute that makes a person attractive because it can ensure, depending on the case, that the person and his social circle will provide security to his or her partner.

I'm 30 and didn't get my first smartphone till last december. Yeah, I held out till then.

I see

>everyone should feel the urge to become a youtube celebrity because biology and shit
That's one hell of an extrapolation, user.

just watch your superbowl or whatever faggot, nobody cares about your braindead kindergarden logic

well, that is your opinion, which i agree with, but overall geometrical layout and coloring have lots of impact on our behavior, especially those who don't know anything about that.

>Why do people enjoy watching corny personalities play bad video games on Twitch?
I'm 29 and the concept of the "Let's Play" is totally baffling to me.

OP here. I have plenty of friends and even a loving girlfriend. That doesn't mean I don't feel disconnected from the culture at large.

>just watch your superbowl or whatever faggot

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not everyone, but a lot of people try because from the perspective of executing it, representing yourself on the net, that is very simple. it's also a question if you appeal to people, if you are attractive, if you have a nice voice, if your articulation is good, etc.

everyone whines about attentionwhores on the internet and you know why? because the facebook/instagram/jewtub faggotry aka the internet is the modern version of courtship display

I agree with your sentiment that it is only normal for people to seek attention in this way, but I think your explanation is mostly BS. I think it's more about seeking validation and popularity in itself than following natural instincts in order to reproduce.

>I have plenty of friends and even a loving girlfriend. That doesn't mean I don't feel disconnected from the culture at large.
So move to Iraq and join the Islamic State or whatever, where everyone is ultra-conservative. I don't see why you're seemingly so worried about not fitting in?

The ultra-connected modern world has made nearly everyone neurotic in some way. The speed at which trends come and go, and that things age is getting faster and faster.

I'm not sure what the solution is, but I doubt it's to be found anyone online, but good luck getting people (even myself, really) to give up their delicious dopamine.

But really, it's been a while since I've seen a web site or even a file that has genuinely interesting information. I think the web has, in general, just become something that it's not really worth caring about, or rather how much you need to care about it to partake in the larger culture isn't worth what you get back.

> I think it's more about seeking validation and popularity
>validation and popularity
>popularity
first there is fame, then there is popularity. validation from outside contributes to the construct. everything anyone ever does is of instincts, the concept of being in control over yourself is a lie.

go take some biology classes if you are still in college, i'd recommend it

Kids have always been kind of like that. In your generation, it was probably just focused on something different. Kids, especially teenagers, want to put on a performance and be viewed positive by peers. They want to fit in.

But not only are you older now, but you were also probably an autistic asocial fuck so you never took part in this.

It's literally nothing new. Just now, instead of watching the shitty fake hip teen show on whatever TV channel to stay current and going to parties to show off how cool they are, they watch shitty fake hip people on youtube and post on instagram to show off how cool they are.

OP is talking about 18-19 year olds, not kids.

>first there is fame, then there is popularity
Then you are using different definition for those terms than I am. Being famous is being well-known among a large segment of your field or society in general, while being popular means that people like hanging out with you, even if it's just a close group of friends.

>everything anyone ever does is of instincts
Not true.

>the concept of being in control over yourself is a lie.
This is philosophy, not biology.

No! MY generation is better! The things we had have meaning! Everything now is bad, everything back then was great

Those are still teenagers, bub.

I feel the same too, to be honest

Ever considered the possibility that you're suffering from depression?

I don't see why you're taking my observations so personally, unless I've offended you in some way. We can certainly have a dialogue about this, if you desire.

Depression doesn't exist.

Good point. It's easier to forget the bad shit of our generation as we get older.

Please elaborate

see: Don't mischaracterize me.

>I don't see why you're taking my observations so personally
What the hell are you talking about?

>We can certainly have a dialogue about this, if you desire.
Isn't that what we are doing right now? I asked you why you are so worried about fitting in with younger generations, if you already feel well-adjusted to society in general. What has this to do with me?

There is a big difference between skateboarding and staring at a screen all day.

You told me to join ISIS in response to me asking if anyone shared my disconnected sentiments. I'd say you came across as pretty miffed.

That's a false dichotomy. Most teens in your generation didn't skateboard, and modern teens do shit other than sitting staring at a screen all the time.

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>Sup Forums complaining about the damn kids these days not getting outside and living life and staring at their intsawhatsits and whosagrams
the irony

I want old Sup Forums back

>le strawman

please go away

Sup Forums never liked social media you retard

>Most teens in your generation didn't skateboard
I didn't say they did. I was just making a point.

>and modern teens do shit other than sitting staring at a screen all the time.
Of course, but figures show that they spend a hours doing so, which isn't healthy as they've studied the effect his has on things like self-esteem and depression.
>Using data collected between 2010 and 2015 from more than 500,000 adolescents nationwide, Twenge’s study found kids who spent three hours or more a day on smartphones or other electronic devices were 34% more likely to suffer at least one suicide-related outcome—including feeling hopeless or seriously considering suicide—than kids who used devices two hours a day or less. Among kids who used electronic devices five or more hours a day, 48% had at least one suicide-related outcome.

This is why it's different to other trends teens and kids used to be involved with.

>strawman
That's literally what OP is complaining about.

It's just incredible to me that modern Sup Forums is full of so many tech-hating soyboys.

It isn't, but keep telling yourself that if it helps.

Yes, because "old Sup Forums" were really into social media and smartphone apps.

>Of course, but figures show that they spend a hours doing so,
Just like literally every other technologically-literate segment of the population. People spend more time on screens now. That's a problem with society, not teenagers.

But for teenagers it's happening at a time when they're still learning how to socialise. What would I need to show you to get you to admit there might be a problem here?

Yes, because no one loves tech as much as the "what's a computer" crowd. Go jump in front of a train.

>You told me to join ISIS in response to me asking if anyone shared my disconnected sentiments. I'd say you came across as pretty miffed.
And I'd counter that, by saying that you took that comment way too personally. You said you felt disconnected from the culture, much like people born in western countries that went to join the Islamic State, so I made a joke about it (it being "the feeling of disconnection from culture/society").

If you have friends and a loving gf, then I'd say that you come off to me as pretty well-adjusted to society and I don't get why you worry about not feeling a connection with younger people.

>What would I need to show you to get you to admit there might be a problem here?
I'm not denying that too much screen time is a problem, and certainly younger people may be more susceptible to negative effects.

I'm saying it's not a *generational* problem, which is why OP seems to be concerned about.

I really don't care if some old boomer spends all his time on the computer, and the Millenials are worthless generation anyway so I don't care what happens to us, but teenagers should be made aware of the issues because they still have a future ahead of them.

Life is driven by the instinct of survival, how the fuck can you be so fucking ignorant about a fact.

the definitions both are correct but you ignore the fact that, you can't be popular if you are not famous.

this is biology and this exactly why I am telling you, go take some classes, you are missing a lot of connecting dots and your counter argument are flawed.

It isn't so much that I care as me trying to rationalize the "why" behind it. I don't choose to feel this way. I don't think it makes me any more interesting or superior to anybody else. I genuinely just can't wrap my head around these things.

You did this too
If you don't think so you have no self-awareness

The rate of progress has vastly increased. Whether or not that's good can be debated.