What's the best messenger app?
What's the best messenger app?
Other urls found in this thread:
de.m.wikipedia.org
twitter.com
Signal. Whatsapp. Telegram. Whatever.
Signal for when you're feeling cheeky
Whatsapp because I have given up on the "MUH PRIVACY" meme.
Telegram.
Anime stickers, download bots had me sold
Wire > Signal > Wickr > Threema > Riot.im >>> anything else.
Danka
I tried various stuff, but Messenger works best imo
You're already friends with your Facebook friends so it's faster
several entries on Riot are false so I guess this whole comparison is pretty much useless
fb shills
Hangouts. Google already has all the data. Might as well be just them and not Facebook too.
XMPP > these memes
Should have been an entry about pricing. Wire is not free
>free
I think what you meant to say was gratis
The only Sup Forums approved messenger is self-hosted XMPP with conversations / dino
DISA - combines facebook messenger and whatsapp, if you need to comunicate with normies best thing ever
its shit
no you
>no anonymous signup
>collects logs
yeah wire seems great
It's been awful for 5 years. I was one of the initial beta testers when it was first announced. Trust me, the only reason that thing exists is because Android doesn't have a dedicated messaging service, so Disa tried to unite them all and call it a day. It honestly just turned into AIDS when they tried merging WA/SMS back at the start.
well I dont care about sms, but what I care is that instead of :
Facebook
Facebook messenger
Whatsapp
I have :
DISA
One up to rule them all.
How do those download boots work?
We should settle on Signal.
Open Source, nonprofit, backed by Edward Snowden
iMessage. only non-compromised E2E from a company that isn't owned by russians.
requires phone number
where does snowden live again? whose ogliarch dick is he sucking to make rent / keep the kgb from putting a bullet in his brain?
and?
This.
Why is self hosting so important if e2e encryption is good?
What is the best client for windows?
Isn't whatsapp end to end encrypted? Or is that just a meme?
True, but if you want to find a replacement for Whatsapp you need something that works like it and trust me people will forget their usernames and passwords
it is, but they are using your phone number and meta data and send it to their mother ship
XMPP. So for app, that's either conversations or chatsecure
>multi end-to-end encrypted with omemo
>can fall back to gpg or otr
>as many account as you like
>can host your own server and talk to all people on other servers
>anonymous
>you can connect with tor
>platform independent
>open standard
If you think anything beats this, your a paid shill
There's no metadata to harvest, because the hole system is federated. CIA niggers can fuck right off
silence or xmpp
hahaha, you think they're not happy for the reveals he has made?
you think Russia-critical tweets in English annoys them?
you seriously think they won't trade him to the US as soon as they get a good counter-offer?
wew
Wire is free, you stupid mongoloid.
>anonymous signup
Nothing relevant, other than Riot, has this.
>collects IP logs
Every server knows where you're connecting from no matter the app. You can't have IP communication without IP addresses. As for why they store them is beyond me. Probably for some sort of security.
What is false for riot? The list has been updated a few months ago so there would be errors only if they've changed something recently.
Tried registering with wire using my phone, doesn't even work fampai.
>backed by Edward Snowden
This is such a stupid thing to classify as a plus.
For all you know, Ed Snowden can be a government plant.
Retard
>self destructing messages
dude just take a screenshot
>what's a secure surface
Open source or better GPL is a must have though.
There should be a better comparison. Something like this:
de.m.wikipedia.org
Here the Open Source Status is mentioned first.
Look at
Federated means you can control what your server will log, if it logs anything at all. It also has anonymous signup. Alternatives exists, you don't have to shill your walled garden shit service
>his phone prevents him from taking screenshots
cuck
Telegram & Conversations
I've been considering ICQ because I'd rather the KGB read my shit. What do you think anons?
Wire is good, but not the best. Signal is better if you are looking for the security.
>Wire is not open-source
>Collects data
>Was not recommended by Snowden, Signal was on many occasions.
>Signal already told the gov to fuck off at least once
>Signal is used by the US congress personnel, not Wire.
>Signal succeeded by the independent audits, with Wire there "were concerns".
There.
Use burner SIM or just land-line. Problem solved. And anonymous login/reg is the most requested feature, so it will probably get implemented one way or another.
Signal.
You're retarded.
Wire is completely open source. The apps, the server, everything.
It doesn't collect identifiable data unless you don't opt out.
Snowden is an idiot and saying something is recommended by him is completely irrelevant.
Signal is used in US because it is an American platform.
All concerns about wire have been recently corrected since everything was fixed 3-4 months ago and it's server source has been released. It now has the same minor issues as Signal. Except, Signal needs a fucking phone number to register. That's a huge deal for anyone who's even slightly serious about privacy. I'd rather use Riot than Signal just for that reason.
Use Wire, user.
It is free though
> phone number
and? where's the problem?
This, Signal.
I don't have one nor would I want to depend on it. SIMs provide a backdoor to your phone.
Until it lets me register with email, or not have to register at all, it's shit.
Stop shilling signal, xmpp is better in all regards
>conversations
>Thank you for choosing conversations.im as your XMPP provider. Your first 6 months are free. After that it is only 8 Euro/year.
Fuck off
>centralized garbage
>requires a phone number
>jewgle libs bundled in the apk
>shitty electron desktop client
Fuck off moxie.
Why so touchy, Wireshill? Wire is mostly untried, as you said, fixed only three months ago.
>"Wire servers "keep a list of all the users a customer contacted until they delete their account".[34] Wire Swiss confirmed that the statement was accurate, saying that they keep the data in order to "help with syncing conversations across multiple devices", and that they might change their approach in the future.[34]"
Also muh number. Stop being dumb you kikelet. Just use VoIP or land-line or burner/secondary one. It doesn't have to be a SIM inside your phone.
Host it yourself faggot or if you are too dumb/lazy just use some community server.
>list of all the users a customer contacted
Irrelevant. They can't see your messages.
>It doesn't have to be a SIM inside your phone.
I don't give a fuck about SIM cards. they're a shitty outdated technology. 90% of my communication is over a PC. Wasting money on burner phones or cards is retarded when superior methods exist (Wire)
>Asks about the best messaging app
>posts pic of the one that's giving out their alledged unbreakable encryption keys to the FSB
OP, never stop being the biggest faggot alive
Lies
>conversations is good!
>it's paid
>REEEE don't use it then!
Fuck off
Everything is true, other than google stuff bundled in. I can't confirm that it's true for the app they have on their website, but play store version does have google services framework in it.
Can you read you prostitute? You don't even need a SIM. Goddamn you dense.
>use any free server
>it's free
???
Can recommend jabber.ccc.de and magicbriccoli.de
See
Viber
>chatsecure
>iOS exclusive
>the Android fork "Zom" is unavailable on fdroid so updating it would be a nightmare
JUST. Does it even have VoIP and videochats?
>what is conversations
>what is pix-art
Also
>voip
>videochat
Fuck off, this is a messenger not a multimedia clusterfuck
>communication software
>lacks communication features, even a basic one like calls
This is why XMPP is shit
it doesn't matter whats secure since nobody gonna use it anyways
>waiting for others to change the world
Sheep
oy vey use wire you goyim
Can you really trust a messenger if its not on f-droid?
Wire has an open issue on github for more than a year now to include it on f-droid. But proprietary blobs dont allow wire on the f-droid repo.
Really makes you think..
Nope
Nice pasta
signal.org/android/apk
You can have Signal without even coming close to the (((Google))) services you nigger.
>nope
Nice argument, faggot
F-Droid compiles for their repo. Downloading some random apk from github is not the same
>Has directly linked apk straight from the devs themselves exactly two posts above
>"Hurr muh random apk from github"
Your mum liked her vodka too much when she was preggo, didn't she.
Stay mad
They lost a case recently in Russia
t. corporate shill
not telegram considering theyre giving encryption keys to russia
>if it's not on fdroid it's bad!
Kys
whatever you say boris. he started out as an embarrassment for obama (what the russians really gained) and now he's just chilling and laying low in moscow since putin owns both his ass and the white house now.
Ignore literally every other post on here - the only indisputable answer is Snapchat.
Nobody on here is capable of giving a sound, logical reason against this, only senseless anal-pain garbage from soyboys.
Interesting suggestion
I write it twice onii-chan, since I dislike moxie's shills who like to ignore it.
You haven't even tried to deny any of the points, just like them.
>No personal cloud storage
>No shiny sticker
>No themes
>Boring UI
>Needs phone to be active when using other platform
Fuck off
>Apple
>USA
>Home of the NSA
Uh huh, sure
"self destructing messages"
How exactly is that supposed to be possible if they allow third party clients?