/prod/ - Music Production General

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Made some Godspeed-inspired trap.
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How bad is it?

bump

fl isn't a good daw

Never used it. Mind explaining why it's bad?

I heard it's basically babby mode for new producers as a stepping stone to other DAWs.

it's meme (that guys post not fl)

speaking of brickwalls
does this sound too smashed?
clyp.it/rykewd1y
also how do the vocal cuts sound in the mix?
there's one in the intro and at 0:54

HAHA YEAH TOTALLY BRO THAT'S WHY WE USE ABLETON AND FUCK PRETTY BITCHES AM I RIGHT? XD

I'M SECURE

you pretty much nailed it
it's like the difference between script kiddies and actual hackers

>not fl
FL (or Fruity Loops which is his official name (he's embarassed by it though)) is literally memes in daw form.

how do you get this pretensious

>pretensious
kek

and cuz i make le best music in /prod/

Why does slapping on some piano chords make everything sound better with little effort? I have to actively prevent myself from using the piano cause I already use it on too many tracks.

Not bad, but keep working on it, it sounds like it was sampled from Castlevania.

I really enjoyed this. user. Nice job. Are the vocals a sample, or are they OC?

thanks man
the raps are sampled from here
youtube.com/watch?v=3gY8Jue9N1Y

and the female vocals are just from that black octopus veela pack that everyone and their mom uses

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what do you guys think? does it get to be too much? also, should I add in a bit more drums? any mixing advice would be nice too.

this is not trap

Oh the irony

Loving the tone/mood you got going. The snare gets a bit old. Maybe vary its velocity or layer other snare parts at different parts of the song. Good work at making a very straight-line oriented genre have a little more dynamism and progression.

I know heaps of secret stuff about producing and I thought about sharing it here but I don't want you guys to know. Why should I? I read all the books and studied hard and you just drop a drum loop into a grid and put zany stuff on top and wonder if you're good

nice b8 m8 i r8 8/8

jk it sucked

lmao post your music senpai

Damnnnnn Dawg let's see that clyp.it

arturia.com/v-collection-update/overview

Anyone seen this? Does this include all the actual plug-ins that it lists or is it just a big paid software update? Arturia's giving me a $50 discount on it because I already own one of their products (promotional free version of their minimoog plugin)

how often do you find yourself surrounded by yes men?

people who tell you what you want to hear and don't want to tell you what you are doing is bad.

so, I have a decent grasp on music theory. I understand how to use my production software rather fluently. but the music I still make isn't up to my own standards? my melodies just don't really ... flow, and I have immense trouble moving a sound forward, building upon it, expanding etc. I can usually make a short two bar melody but building anything upon that is so hard for me

never because i don't show my half finished generic shit to stranger online begging them to tell me it's not that bad

hum the melody out in your head and imagine where it should go... envision the whole song progressing....

copy the way another song you like progresses...

make a skeleton of the entire song before fleshing out those two bar parts...

etc

That one is an update to the instruments in V-Collection 4 and it updates them to the same versions found in V-Collection 5, it doesn't give you the newer instruments that are only found in V-Collection 5

So yeah you'd need to already own V-Collection 4 to make use of it, should have added that.

what makes you think this is trap?

Anyone here own an octatrack? I'm thinking about picking one up

All I want is to be able to make convincing dub techno:
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I'm usually told I need to add either more elements, or more reverb or delay whenever I post here. I'm still leagues away from being able to compose a full track. Just going in circles trying to get that perfect loop. So how shitty is it this time?

I own one. It really isn't as complicated as everyone pretends it is. Anything specific you want to know about it?

Where do you get your obscure samples? Soulseek runs like shit for me, need an alternative.

youtube

seriously

how do you even sift through the terabytes of shit on that site

Cool whip'd this up this morning. Thots?

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What do you use yours for?

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What could i add to this? And what do you think of it?

soundcloud.com/decemberbeaches/sets/june-tommorrow/s-eGgzH

Thoughts on this?

Just riffing off my Werkstatt 01

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This is way to fucking sharp, tone down the highs

Sampling drums and pads + sequencing synths. It really depends on how you want to use it t b h. It's a very open ended machine. People say it's like ableton in a box but it's more like an old school tracker in a box.

someone post the discord

>songs to sample
>playlists

Read the sticky

Its alright, pretty samey throughout atm. Maybe try something in the higher register, some sort of arpeggio could work. Also, a faster form of percussion (maybe a high hat).

I would also play around more with panning.

hey /prod/ so i make hip hop beats
i've always mixed my drums relatively loud because i figured that's what drives a hip hop beat so it should have a large presence, but a few people have told me to make them less prominent

my question is should i try to get them as quiet as they can possibly be while still maintaining an impact in the mix? is that the goal?

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rate & feedback pls

In radio friendly hip hop the drums are usually super loud, same with most electronic music, you can look at the waveform and see the kick and snare hitting roughly 0 db each time they play. But for more "indie" type stuff like Madlib or a lot of RZA's beats, the drums are almost more like an old rock or soul recording where they just kind of sit at the same volume as the rest of the mix. If you're trying to go for that style I'd say just A/B your beats with RZA or Madlib stuff until it sounds the same.

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is it good?

It doesn't necessarily need more elements but it needs more movement - think about what dub is and what dub techno takes from the original dub sounds.

It uses effects like the reverb and delay that you're already using but it doesn't apply them in a smooth fluid manner - like the original dub artists and DJs they will apply fuckhuge amounts of reverb and delay to single drum hits not all the time, but they'll pick out their own rhythm within what they're hearing (which might not even be already implied by any of the instruments) and they'll basically flick the effect send in time with that rhythm, building up and dropping out to create brief periods of polyrhythm that weren't there before - pretty much using the effects as another instrument.

It's about layers of rhythm snaking around each other to create this swirling hypnotic...thing and I don't mean "lots of panning" when I say "swirling" because a whole load of the original dub sound systems were mono - it's all about the constant movement.

how would i sample a song by recording myself scrolling the playmarker around the song? is that how producers do it? and just keep going until you find a 1 or 2 bar pattern you like? or do they actually sample bits up and assign pads to them?

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hello there /prod/
i need your help, im helping some friends finish a metal demo and im totally lost on how to make the vocals sound "evil" or whatever.. its underground metal.. kinda deathrash or something(sounds like mutilator demos on speed). by the way i work doing location sound and post production, so i can help with that.. dont usually mix much,.. the instruments and shit is sound cool, everyone happy, just need more spice on the vocals.

so whats the usual things someone could use in this situation? tips? plugin chains?
im playing around with eq, compression and verb. im gonna try putting some od and maybe some slap delay.. dunno.. but im all ears, please help!

and if you have any questions regardins location sound and post production just let me know. i also produce harsh noise (lol) so you can ask me about that but i dobt anyone really need s info on that.

thankssssss

and heres some references (yep, they are different, i want to abel to try different sounds).
youtube.com/watch?v=U52-5QL-o8o
youtube.com/watch?v=ZLVbnBhInv8
youtube.com/watch?v=EAZnHJ9-0EA
youtube.com/watch?v=nPzd9ijrxUE
youtube.com/watch?v=8mG-x5E3daM

if you're making it evil by how you record and master, reverb can make things chilling, recording at a faster tempo and then slowing the track to the correct bpm will make it eerie, trying singing backwards and reversing recording in the master for some eerie stuff. You can beef that up more by recording into a cassette, then sending the zux into your interface/input and changing the speed or shaking the player while it's recording the recording.

>implying strangers are the ones that yes man you and not friends/family who are filtering what they hear through the fact that they know/like you as a person

Hey, still here. Thanks for that. You made me realize that I often neglect the "dub" when discussing dub techno. I've been incorrectly using the term as a catch-all for any slower-paced techno track with a well-crafted and complex sense of space. Makes me wonder how many of the tracks I associate with the genre are actually starting with a stripped down reggae track?

I should also mention that I don't have any kind of controller interface (broke), so I'm using my trackpad to control any parameters. Therefore it's impossible to manipulate more than one element simultaneously. I could maybe record myself modulating the effects of each element individually and put the tracks together at the end? Still not actually "dub", but it might lead to something more organic and evolving.

that's the thing I make boom bap, but I want to get it closer to a radio/dance quality mix
like a cleaner sounding pretty lights
or like a dirtier sounding radio song
idk

this is what I'm working with right now
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ny general opinions on that turnaround @ 0:30?
how awkward/10?

A lot of what Rhythm & Sound and Moritz Von Oswald does in general is linked heavily to reggae - it's most noticeable on tracks on M-6 and in particular the track he did with Paul St. Hilaire as Tikiman - listen to the snare that comes in just after the first sung phrase, that half-step thing is pure reggae.

youtube.com/watch?v=VwXntYGQ61s

Depending on your DAW what I'd do in the absence of a controller is create keyboard mappings to effects sends - so you can punch the effect send in and out rhythmically to create automation data that you can then fine-tune.

>keyboard mappings

With this I'm meaning your computer keyboard.

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