North American union when?

North American union when?

>inb4 mexico hate thread

CHI

CAGO CUBS

desu it seems like it'd be a good idea.

We could all in one way or another fix each other's problems.
But we all know it would end up in the US and Canada trying to fix Mexico for 10 years and giving up.

Yeah, like NAFTA was a good idea

this, but we can be the poland of north america, living from amerimonies

That's what friends are for

needs to be just America (including PR) and Canada for now

let Mexico keep growin,stop the war on drugs and when they develop a comfy middle class let them join

we can all be firnendos in due time, hate doesn't have to take precedence

Canada produces raw materials. Mexico uses shitty cheap labour. America consumes everything

Ignorant

It's a match made in heaven.

California here, I actually like the idea.

>Take the i-5 up north to Vancouver, then drive down the coast all the way down to san diego and then baja california
>from baja california drive to mexico city and eat chalupas or whatever the fuck authentic mexican food is
>drive through juarez to Texas for some barbecue and then through the appalachians to NY
>stop at NY for some multicultural experiences then hit up Quebec for some poutine or whatever

CUM roadtrip here we """CUM"'" :D

Only if we can eradicate all Mexicans with less than 90% European DNA, otherwise we're just making everything worse.

they would gain more from uniting with Greenland than fucking mexico

Texas would only be the 7th largest state, haha

>zikaland
Lol

CHI

USA-Canada-Greenland-Iceland union when?

>not including mexico
It's like you're a bully

Why do you hate mexico?

Or it's like he realizes Mexico is a liability.

/magic/ general when?

>brazil
>bully Someone

U wot m8?

Why wouldn't you hate Mexico?

I'm a Chicano and I just want everyone to get along.

Now that we have the upper hand it really is a good idea.

CHI

We're never going to get along with your kind invading my country and dragging it down to Mexico's level.

I like mexico :3

What if he was born here or immigrated legally?

The only acceptable Mexican is one who has been purged of Mexican culture and who has adapted fully to Anglo-American norms.

I was born here and I've never committed a single crime in my life.
I hate soccer and mariachi music. Is that enough?

Cago Cubs Champion

Don't listen to him, I used to have some based Mexican neighbors. Really hard working people with good family values.

But most Americans are German not Anglo.

>I hate soccer and mariachi music. Is that enough?
Do you think education and ambition are extremely important? Do you think welfare is for worthless people? Does it offend you when people live here but don't adopt English as their primary language and emphasize its importance to their children? Does loyalty to Mexico from your fellow Chicanos disgust you? Do you understand that allowing continued mass immigration from Latin America will result in America becoming just like the places they were trying to get out of?

B-but we don't want to.

And virtually all meaningful expression of their German identity has been successfully erased. Our history has become theirs, our ideals have become theirs, and our heritage has become theirs. Mexicans must undergo the same process.

>Do you think education and ambition are extremely important?

Yes but happiness and family is more important.

>Do you think welfare is for worthless people?

I wouldn't call them worthless but some people need help when they go through hard times

>Does it offend you when people live here but don't adopt English as their primary language and emphasize its importance to their children?

Not really.

>Does loyalty to Mexico from your fellow Chicanos disgust you?

Of course not! It's only natural for them to care about mexico because of the family that still lives there.

>Do you understand that allowing continued mass immigration from Latin America will result in America becoming just like the places they were trying to get out of?

There are dangers to it but most of the illegal immigrants in our country have already started families and it wouldn't be right to tear them apart.

Mexican culture and American culture isn't much different. Mexicans now are going through the same shit the Irish went through a century ago.

>Mexican culture and American culture isn't much different. Mexicans now are going through the same shit the Irish went through a century ago.

The outcomes say otherwise.

I seriously don't understand why so many "low IQ Mexicans" want to emigrate to plastic 'Murica.

Welfare shopping, what else? Mexico's trash has been collecting here for decades.

better than being a self centered consumerist lard beast without any sense of morality whatsoever tbqh.

My parents have never taken welfare before.

What outcomes? Mexican immigration has only really been big in the last decade or two. There has already been a shift in the amount that come into the country vs leaving the country, and a large part of upcoming population of Mexican decent don't even speak Spanish.

If the day ever comes when your country is anything other than a corrupt, violent, poor, mediocre waste of space, maybe I'll give a fuck what a Mexican has to say.

jeez I think I just hit a nerve. so salty

The outcomes of our respective nations. Either as a Spanish colony or an independent country, Mexico is of comparable age to the US as well as Canada, yet while the two Anglo nations have become well developed and prosperous, Mexico has always been corrupt and incompetent. It is no coincidence that the two Anglo nations of the Western Hemisphere are successful while all the Latin American ones are failures.

Please keep that way of thinking.

sad but this

>Mexico is of comparable age to the US as well as Canada
we were fighting US founded wars against radical Christians in the 30s, our constitution is only 100 years old. Also, how the fuck do you think we had to pay for all the debt created by the civil wars. We have a rich history, but the republic of Mexico is a very young state compared to the rest of the anglosphere.
We have our problems but we have greatly improved in several aspects, but I know you'll tell otherwise. So just keep listening to those who think just like you, if you want to think that we're a shithole I literally can't do anything to convince you otherwise.

You're right, I am. I live in diversity ground zero and I've had almost three decades to witness what mass numbers of Mexicans have done. I will never forgive my parents and grandparents for allowing the gates to open to your country, and I will never not be angry about what the people of your country have done to mine. What was once our greatest state is now being turned into a giant Tijuana.

Of course they didn't advance much under the Spanish, they really only wanted the land for wealth. The British were there to colonize. They were like that up until the late 1800's, which was later followed by revolutions and the great depression. They grew after that, but of course corruption is stopping it now.

a union without mexico and america but with possibly st pierre and miquelon as well as greenland is a good idea.

we don't want cartel violence, shit tier politics, corruption, lack of healthcare, etc.

sounds like literal shit, non the less, and just as you said, you bring this up to yourself, your fathers did.
tbqh I'm completely against illegal migration, it's fucking senseless and doesn't benefit neither of us, but in the other hand illegal migration has nothing to do if either an individual adapts to a country or not.

Cringed.
Reminder: You've done nothing to shape what your country has become, complaining about what's its coming to means nothing.

When Mexico fucks off to its South American brethren.

Mass migration does however. When you let too many people from one place move to a new one, there is not enough social pressure on them to adapt. They form ethnic enclaves and stick to the same cultural and behavioral patterns of their previous lives. I have no opposition to limited numbers of useful immigrants who want to assimilate, even ones from Mexico. I am however against migration on a scale that causes significant cultural and demographic change.

>They form ethnic enclaves and stick to the same cultural and behavioral patterns of their previous lives.
this, I'll never understand. Fucking ghettos seem like the worst fucking idea ever made, they patronize this kind of shitty behavior some people have, segregation itself seems kinda fucked up, and I'm not talking only about Mexicans, why do't whites live among Asians, or latinos among blacks or blacks among whites?
Dunno man, family relationship and social enclosure is the seal of approval of any Mexican social group. But that kinda behavior, that kind of segregation seems abnormal and sometimes makes me wonder if US still has race only bathrooms or schools.

>t.Tommy Mendoza

fuck off globalists

When a whole bunch of people show up all at once who look different, act different, and speak a different language, it triggers tribal instincts that cause the group already there to circle the wagons. An individual or a single family is no threat, they might even be seen as interesting and receive a warm welcome. It's only when a group large enough to compete locally with the established population arrives that tensions begin to emerge. A slow trickle of people from Mexico to the US would have prevented this problem from ever happening. Instead, we've been inundated by an endless tidal wave that has proven itself to be an existential threat. Segregating ourselves into certain areas and being unofficially unwelcoming is about all we have left if we don't want to be swept away as well. So we stay out in the suburbs while the cities all turn into Tijuana.

Why you throw shit to Tijuana it's a great city.

I've spent enough time there to know it is anything but great. It's run-down, ugly, dirty, and absolutely infested with crime.

Whatever.

You may not see the value in pristine streets, well-maintained homes and businesses, and the peace of mind that comes from living in a place where you never have to worry about being mugged or having your car stolen overnight, but I do.

I do also but you think we don't.

I legitimately like Mexico, and wish to include them in any and all North American things.
And this is coming from a Trump supporter.

>is about all we have left if we don't want to be swept away as well.
that seems like curing a disease with poison. I know America was founded on the premise of fuck government, but nowadays government runs every economical and civic aspect of your life, why not just step a little further and let them stop segregation or promote social inclusion.
And to be honest, a city is very intricate and complex social product, to understand a city and the way it was made you have to go through the whole history alongside the behavior of the general population, categorizing a city as garbage just because it's different than yours is a very square thinking, non the less that's what's happening in your country, you have to see through the other social group eyes in order to get a glance of a purer reality, not a one sided plot made only to make you feel superior.

I can categorize a city as garbage when over the course of 15 years it goes from being clean and peaceful to having litter in the streets, graffiti on all the signs and buildings, everything looking like it hasn't been painted or maintenanced since the 70s, and where shifty cholos with violent tendencies hang out in groups on every street and you can't go out at night anymore unless you're in an even bigger group.

You may not understand it, or perhaps you just don't want to admit it, but the people who have moved here from Mexico and Central America are simply an inferior brand of people. They aren't as smart, they don't have the same values, and they simply let everything rot and decay because they're so tolerant of mediocrity and squalor. I am not interested in desegregating and inviting those lowered standards and expectations into my immediate surroundings. It is incumbent upon them to bring their standards up to the level of the country they have decided to call home, not to drag it down to the same level of shit they were so eager to get away from. I won't accept a future that looks as bleak as so much of your country does.

Jesus, man. I really hope your vision of life changes overtime. But to be honest I think you'll never get out of you small little perfect bubble.
You have the right to stay in that bubble as much as you want, man I feel pity for you. And that's quiet sad coming from a guy in this shithole.

Your comfort with your shithole is why it will always be a shithole.

>comfort with your shithole
That's where you're wrong, we have a lot of work to do. But I can't really force you to understand thins kind of things, since you'll end up biasing everything towards your superior social and ethnic background.

What Mexico needs is the American version of the 2nd amendment

Its a perfect example for it
Prtect your homes from cartels and overtaking the government and install a constitution like the us with bill of rights and all

Right now Mexico needs someone like what was France to the US

1. Never

2. Even if you supported, why would you want to include a Third World shithole like Mexico? That's the same mistake the EU made, bringing in poor eastern European shitholes that take more than they contribute, rather than keeping the Union confined to just its richest nations.

The cartels are more like paramilitary groups than street gangs, it would take more than a few guns to bring them down and even if you organized a militia, that militia would easily be susceptible to infiltration and subversion by the cartels. Unfortunately Mexico doesn't have something as simple as our revolution on its hands, it has deeply embedded corruption and a lot of people who don't care who they kill as long as they get paid.

what we really need is stop the war on drugs and let Americans OD in our shitty meth as much as they want

Never, nobody wants that.

>brazil being jealous that they're not in north america